The Centaur

I always believed that the law was quite clear where mistakes are made. The money has to be returned. Happens every day. Why its so hard here is very strange.

Why was she giving it the whip at the 200m. Thats stupid. Liable to burn it out before the serious assignments come about. A 1 length win win would have been sufficient.

I'm trying to wrap my head around BGP. Firstly the punting selections seemed to have no research. Is there an admin % cut taken out of the BGP pool? Many web sites get viewers registrations just for curiosity purposes. That does not mean they are active members. Actual active members on a say weekly basis would be very small. The TAB getting too involved with BGP probably not a good idea. Most people don't like to be thought of as fodder. Perhaps some new thinking is required for BGP direction.

Seem there are numerous legal actions everywhere. e.g.https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/20/kpmg-investigation-entain-frc#img-1 I can see Entain cutting their losses and exiting the NZ contract within 5 years. The good news is that new technology means bookmakers as we know them aren't necessary for racing. The quicker we can say "goodbye Entain" the better racing will be. Whilst at it have a look at the TAB website. Absolutely pathetic in so many ways. Slow to load, jumps about like a Trump supporter, if you click on something it beats you by a fraction of a second by going to say the 5th at Alice Springs dogs. Thats after when waiting for it to jump you've scrolled down only to have to scroll back up.

I know its after the race but really Wolfgang should have been paying $2. Beat Interpretation in the Geelong Cup with 2kg more after a massively hard run parked. Best lead up form of any horse when 2nd in the Manawatu Cup. Just about bet of the century.

Wandering E I don't know what your occupation is but should you be keen on doing something like you have done with Matamata trials with all race & trial meetings I believe there is a commercial opportunity or formula. Perhaps if interested you could PM me.

Foxton this time of year more so a summer destination. If I suspect this is an "industry day" then another opportunity gone begging. Also clubs can earn income by brokering syndicate shares giving prospective owners incentive to attend. Full marks to Wandering eyes for using a bit of technology with the pics from Matamata.

So will the general public know of this meeting?? I doubt it. This meeting could have been a major holiday season event. Just shows the lack of any foresight by those running racing. With a "race" every 10-15 minutes the public would be kept entertained,. Maybe a couple tote races (mobile phone only betting) could have been thrown in just for publicity sake. At this time of year horses are a valuable commodity. Many families turning up at races aren't interested in betting. With so many horses, so many owners plus all the holiday extras there would be plenty of interest even for the not so horse minded. Another one of racing's own goals.

Would not have happened if sending out a cheque the "old fashioned way".

Well at least NZTR are thinking. I suggested 10 plus years ago NZTR form partnership with Western Australia. Such a partnership would have been far more practical and derived economic savings from eliminating staff duplication and economies of scale.

I'm a fan of Jenny from Hong Kong but I just can't wrap my ahead around her "scratchy walkers" but she still places lot of importance on it. One of the things I find is the correlation of trainer to horse appearance in the ring. Lately I've seen similarities in the way Robbie Paterson and Bill Thurlow horses are presented. I note the long time association of the two so maybe somehow they are on the same page.

I doubt the bookies would have birdcage watchers. However there does seem a considerable reaction by punters to the paddock. Go back 20 years and there was virtually no comment or importance placed on paddock tips. It even took the million dollar betting syndicates in Hong Kong quite sometime and testing before they accepted paddock information into their pricing.

With back testing say 2 years you will always come up with a system/strategy that has been successful. If testing a particular strategy is showing big loss most people quickly forget about it. Just because something has been successful over the past 2 years does not mean it will successful over the next 2. Thats the problem most people don't realize. Far better to have a sound strategy and do testing to make slight improvements.

Back to the #'s #8 Cast out unqualified races. i.e, don't bet every race. Quite logical. #9 Consistent betting strategy .... has to well researched. However don't agree with "back testing" what it usually means there will always be a successful strategy when you back test. Tests should be made going forward.

Virus => Bad Blood =>Injection => happy horse

1. People like Thomas straight away assume injection = something dodgy. Thats why the subject doesn't enter into discussions. 2. So you assume I must also be an authority on COVID19 and the various injections for that virus. Sorry its not that simple. So the easiest way as I said is to look at it as a low blood count or disorder e.g. red versus white cells out of kilt. Any vet or trainer who doesn't know how to fix it shouldn't be in business.

For god's sake Curious that would take up an encyclopedia. Every situation is different, every horse is different what might work one day may not work another and also on another horse. I'm sure Freda would be able to fill you in but when the subject is treatments, injections etc. its a taboo subject as far as open forums are concerned for any trainer.

That would be the expectation but Mark read blows that fallacy apart.

I virus can mean low blood count. Look at it that way.

You make some good points Mr Fish particularly seeing the horse before the race. Good example being Real Class versus Reggae Queen. Both had been finishing well leading up to the 2000m fillies race. However the comparison was stark. One had the constitution demeanour etc the other not so. Today I'm keen on seeing how Vickezzmargaux looks prior to race 5. more on the #'s....Mark Read makes the point the market is not stupid. Just because a horse drifts alarmingly you shouldn't suddenly decide to bet based on your pricing.

Blinkers and improved performance is not always cut and dried. I've known trainers who knowing a horse will perform better because of treatment for a virus (i.e. injection) will conveniently explain away the performance to blinkers when they have nothing to do with it.

Well lets push on some are willing to get unconfused. I note that the video gets chopped off at times just when Mark Read is getting into the nitty gritty. The "energy ratings""perpetual ratings" based on class weight speed ratings prices beating the class system perhaps we can skip over that relating to level of performance. #3 Race Maps Interpreting race speed. OK no problem there. #4 Ratings. Weight Ratings versus speed, energy, kinetic energy ratings c'mon Curious this must be your area of expertise,

Quite a bit to digest in the video. Lets get down to seriously analyzing it. Firstly I note that at 74 years Mark Read reckons he's far more perceptive as a punter than ever before. They go on about 11 fundamentals. #1 pick your team. Basically trainers, jockeys, horses etc with good strike rates and consistency Makes point about new technology both training and information. #2 Class figure for the race. I get lost thereafter maybe someone can take over with the other #'s...............

Listened to the radio interview with Brendon Lyndsay recently who was asked what meeting/track has been the most memorable. With Group 1 wins in UK, Aust, NZ etc there was plenty to choose from including Ascot UK. He chose Trentham when travelling by train to the meetings there plus also the day Fury's Order won at Tauherenikau.

You obviously have a good mirror but have some intelligence it is you in the mirror. I actually feel sorry for you as one of those that sucked in by the decade long campaign by L. Molloy against Wightman. Although it may have had elements of humour it was overall bizarre. Although Wightman gave back plenty against Molloy nevertheless there was no reasoning or justification. Keeping up or resurrecting the campaign gives you no credit but just shows how naive and brainless you seem to be.