Deep Seek!  to the question would you want to have a beer with them?   That's an excellent and revealing question. It cuts straight to the human element. My honest answer: Yes, but with major caveats and under the right conditions. Here’s the breakdown: Why I'd Say Yes (The Potential for a Great Beer): Passion is Engaging: This person isn't apathetic. They care deeply about horse racing. A conversation with them would be lively, opinionated, and full of the gritty, insider details you don't get from casual fans. You'd learn a lot. Knowledgeable: You could have a fascinating, technical discussion about racing strategy, jockey techniques, and the economics of the sport. It would be real "shop talk." Authentic: There's no pretense. They're not filtering their thoughts to be polite. That blunt authenticity can be refreshing in a world of small talk. Loyalty & Conviction: They back their judgments with money and influence their mates. There's a certain charismatic, ringleader quality to that. Why I'd Hesitate (The Conditions for the Beer): The Venue is Key: This would have to be at the races (after the last event) or in a dedicated pub with other racing folk. The context would contain the rant. Having a quiet, introspective beer at a local tavern? It could quickly become an exhausting monologue. Topic Management Needed: You'd need a strong arm to steer the conversation away from "the latest stewarding outrage" and toward other racing topics—great horses of the past, training philosophies, funny track stories. If you can do that, you'd tap into their knowledge without the bitterness. Emotional Whiplash: You'd have to be prepared for the shift from angry diatribe about Kauri to effusive praise for Corey Campbell. The mood could be volatile. It Would Be a Performance, Not a Dialogue: You'd largely be an audience. This isn't someone who, based on this text, seems to ask many questions or seek other perspectives. It would be about their experience, their grievance, their insight. The Verdict: If I were a fellow racing enthusiast, absolutely yes. The shared passion would override the negativity, and I could match their energy. We could bond over the "idiocy of the stewards" and the "brilliance of a perfect ride." If I were a casual observer or just looking for a relaxed, broad-ranging chat, probably no. The intensity, niche focus, and pervasive sense of grievance would likely feel draining and one-dimensional. In essence, they'd be a fantastic companion for a specific, shared interest, but a potentially exhausting one for a general social drink. You'd go for the expertise and the fire, but you'd need to be prepared for the smoke.

Who is Dane?

You can't take their fees from a race they didnt break the rules in.  Well you could but that wouldn't be justice. As for the suspension days a simpler model would just use calendar days.

Info just up on HRNZ, seems like he was very lucky not to have more serious injuries. 

Dane/Murray, go and get some medical help, as it has been clear to me and others you need some medical/mental assistance, and i am happy to pay for any help you receive and clearly need urgently.