nod Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 It is time the Stewards got serious about both team riding and horses not trying to win because they have richer targets in view There has been a lot lately and John Oatham needs to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, nod said: It is time the Stewards got serious about both team riding and horses not trying to win because they have richer targets in view There has been a lot lately and John Oatham needs to act. Have a chat to Reefton about said Stipe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, nod said: It is time the Stewards got serious about both team riding and horses not trying to win because they have richer targets in view There has been a lot lately and John Oatham needs to act. Do tell more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, nod said: It is time the Stewards got serious about both team riding and horses not trying to win because they have richer targets in view There has been a lot lately and John Oatham needs to act. John Oatham needs to act? Be careful what you wish for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Do tell more. Have a look at a Te Rapa race a month or two back -stable apprentice rides furiously to lead at an over fast [ridiculous] pace while stable jockey sits at the rear on the plunge horse and wins It was blatant in my view but no questions asked, I would appreciate your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, nod said: Have a look at a Te Rapa race a month or two back -stable apprentice rides furiously to lead at an over fast [ridiculous] pace while stable jockey sits at the rear on the plunge horse and wins It was blatant in my view but no questions asked, I would appreciate your opinion What race was it? I can load it onto BOAY for everyone to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, nod said: Have a look at a Te Rapa race a month or two back -stable apprentice rides furiously to lead at an over fast [ridiculous] pace while stable jockey sits at the rear on the plunge horse and wins It was blatant in my view but no questions asked, I would appreciate your opinion Did you back the wrong one in there nod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Bet it was a Matamata horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 hours ago, nod said: It is time the Stewards got serious about both team riding and horses not trying to win because they have richer targets in view Have a look at a Te Rapa race a month or two back -stable apprentice rides furiously to lead at an over fast [ridiculous] pace while stable jockey sits at the rear on the plunge horse and wins It was blatant in my view but no questions asked, I would appreciate your opinion Surely this is one of the advantages of having a big stable of horses at one's disposal. In my view unless trainers have an ulterior motive in mind they are foolish for running horses against each other for the same prize pool. It's only a rort if you're not in on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 How much did it pay...need more clues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 14 hours ago, holy ravioli said: How much did it pay...need more clues. Best be a bit careful -some outfits do not like criticism and lawyer up . Years ago I had a horse in said stable and still remember the forklift arriving with the bill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, nod said: Best be a bit careful -some outfits do not like criticism and lawyer up . Years ago I had a horse in said stable and still remember the forklift arriving with the bill. I don't know of any stable that would bother "lawyering up" against a negative opinion expressed by a disgruntled punter. Although isn't your main concern the lack of action by the Stipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, nod said: Years ago I had a horse in said stable You haven't "said". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 I remember an Avondale meeting where Oatham was in charge,before he became Chief stipe. It was a field day for team riding and rorts in plain sight. R1 ..a red hot fav,that had placings at all its starts,a favourable barrier ,top jock,good draw,usually on pace...dropped out in a sprint,7 or 8 horse field,stablemate drawn wide ,shot to the lead while the 'unlucky' fav stormed home too late. The winner became eligible to race in Honkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I don't know of any stable that would bother "lawyering up" against a negative opinion expressed by a disgruntled punter. Although isn't your main concern the lack of action by the Stipes? A disgruntled punter? [lol] I seldom have a bet these days other than on my own horses but as you are being rude here is a bit of useless trivia --I once made the largest bet [of its type] ever taken by the N Z Tab -the receipted ticket is held in an Australian private racing museum. But back to the subject -yes. it is hard to believe the stewards are so blind when one sees so many given a quiet run. perhaps it is a matter of not rocking the boat, just like there was a shortage of jockeys looming recently and suddenly the usual suspensions dropped to few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: You haven't "said". I referred to a Stable apprentice and to a Stable jockey -not hard to work out -even young Holi would get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, nod said: I referred to a Stable apprentice and to a Stable jockey -not hard to work out -even young Holi would get it So you've narrowed it down to a stable that has employed a jockey and an apprentice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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