paleface adios Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Rangatira said: No Fission gelding and Phil Williamsons first winner as a trainer. wrong wee willow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: But what did the Appeal decision say? The same as the Inquiry It was the penalty they changed, not the findings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Michael said: The same as the Inquiry It was the penalty they changed, not the findings So the original penalty didn't match the findings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 25/09/2023 at 6:41 PM, paleface adios said: wrong wee willow Didn't Ron Mills train that. Phil Williamson did drive for him and Brian O'Meara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 17 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: So the original penalty didn't match the findings? Are you thick? After an Appeal and submissions they reduced the penalty (which I agree with as the original penalty was a bit harsh) Pretty simple to understand Are you having trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael said: Are you thick? After an Appeal and submissions they reduced the penalty (which I agree with as the original penalty was a bit harsh) Pretty simple to understand Are you having trouble? Doh! So you agree the original penalty didn't match the findings i.e. it was more than a "bit harsh" given the crime. "Although a severe penalty is merited by the circumstances the Panel considers that the penalty imposed upon the Applicant to have been excessive." rap-48-decision.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 20/09/2023 at 9:51 PM, Michael said: Pretty sure that verbal assault isn't as bad as physical assault Gamma (especially a cheap shot) But no doubt you'll disagree On 22/09/2023 at 4:30 PM, Michael said: Let me put it this way, if I king hit someone in the Pub and then get dragged into Court and my defence was "but Chief Stipe said it's ok because he was saying nasty things about me" what do you think my chances are of getting off? Aren't you being a little bit disingenious with the truth? Russo clearly instigated the fight, Downey slapped Russo after telling him to shut up and warning him he would slap him then Russon punched Downey and also assaulted Grimson who initially tried to calm the situation. Russo is (was) an employee of the Brisbane Racing Club. The Club initially informed Russo after the first decision that he could no longer work for them. The Queensland Racing Appeals Panel reconfirmed his warning off of all racecourses for 6 months but clarified that under the rules he would still be able to perform his duties for the Brisbane Racing Club. rap-50-decision.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Aren't you being a little bit disingenious with the truth? Russo clearly instigated the fight, Downey slapped Russo after telling him to shut up and warning him he would slap him then Russon punched Downey and also assaulted Grimson who initially tried to calm the situation. Russo is (was) an employee of the Brisbane Racing Club. The Club initially informed Russo after the first decision that he could no longer work for them. The Queensland Racing Appeals Panel reconfirmed his warning off of all racecourses for 6 months but clarified that under the rules he would still be able to perform his duties for the Brisbane Racing Club. rap-50-decision.pdf 165.64 kB · 0 downloads You obviously haven't seen the video Wasn't the cheap shot afterwards, while the guy (whether the instigator or not) was being held? That's nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Doh! So you agree the original penalty didn't match the findings i.e. it was more than a "bit harsh" given the crime. rap-48-decision.pdf 242.64 kB · 0 downloads Where did I ever agree to the original penalty? Again, this is you not reading posts and imagining you know what's been posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Michael said: You obviously haven't seen the video Wasn't the cheap shot afterwards, while the guy (whether the instigator or not) was being held? That's nil Oh so the official report isn't entirely accurate? Regardless Russo as the instigator got what he deserved and lucky not to lose his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 21 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Oh so the official report isn't entirely accurate? Regardless Russo as the instigator got what he deserved and lucky not to lose his job. No doubt you support wife bashers too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael said: No doubt you support wife bashers too You're obviously reading something I didn't write! Russo was lucky to get the penalty he did from the Appeal process and he was lucky to retain his job. Have no idea how your mind works to connect it to something unrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 16 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: You're obviously reading something I didn't write! Russo was lucky to get the penalty he did from the Appeal process and he was lucky to retain his job. Have no idea how your mind works to connect it to something unrelated. I think your mind works strangely You appear to just want to take the opposing view and posture, like a Devil's Advocate over reaction I'll put it simply for you so that you can understand I don't give a rat's arse about the brawl, nor the penalty(s), nor who instigated it All I'm saying is hitting someone afterwards whist the guy is being held by Security is a cheap shot Grimson on reflection must agree, after all he rang and apologised (his words) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael said: I don't give a rat's arse about the brawl, nor the penalty(s), nor who instigated it Exactly - you appear to have an inability to see the whole picture. 1 hour ago, Michael said: Grimson on reflection must agree, after all he rang and apologised (his words) Has Russo apologised for instigating the ruckus? Your bias knows no bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael said: I'll put it simply for you so that you can understand I don't give a rat's arse about the brawl, nor the penalty(s), nor who instigated it All I'm saying is hitting someone afterwards whist the guy is being held by Security is a cheap shot Doesn't appear that way. You've carried on several times wanting heads to roll (alleging cheap shots ad-nauseum blah blah) and criticise people's opinion of 'Just get over it and move on'. One used to say in these situations "Take it outside boys" (or girls) if having a loud fracas in public spots. a few drinks stoked up a bit of bravado . wow-wee. maybe if you're Not giving a rat's arse you are giving a dog's dick ? lol 😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 11:14 AM, Gammalite said: Doesn't appear that way. You've carried on several times wanting heads to roll (alleging cheap shots ad-nauseum blah blah) and criticise people's opinion of 'Just get over it and move on'. One used to say in these situations "Take it outside boys" (or girls) if having a loud fracas in public spots. a few drinks stoked up a bit of bravado . wow-wee. maybe if you're Not giving a rat's arse you are giving a dog's dick ? lol 😁. Not at all Gammalite I've been very consistent I haven't critiqued the brawl, I haven't critiqued the penalty All I've ever done is say it was a cheap shot to hit someone being held (even if he had been calling someone names Chief) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 10:06 AM, Chief Stipe said: Exactly - you appear to have an inability to see the whole picture. Has Russo apologised for instigating the ruckus? Your bias knows no bounds. No bias at all, don't know either of them and don't care Your attitude is that it's ok to king hit someone who is being held by a 3rd person or persons just because he insulted you? You're being a tosser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Michael said: No bias at all, don't know either of them and don't care Your attitude is that it's ok to king hit someone who is being held by a 3rd person or persons just because he insulted you? You're being a tosser You obviously haven't read the whole report(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Michael said: , I haven't critiqued the penalty On 27/09/2023 at 10:33 AM, Michael said: Are you thick? After an Appeal and submissions they reduced the penalty (which I agree with as the original penalty was a bit harsh) ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Michael said: Your attitude is that it's ok to king hit someone who is being held by a 3rd person or persons just because he insulted you? It wasn't just an insult - it was an accusation of cheating. I can only imagine your reaction if I called you a liar and a cheat in a bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: It wasn't just an insult - it was an accusation of cheating. I can only imagine your reaction if I called you a liar and a cheat in a bar. Yes, you can imagine my reaction....but I doubt I'd escape a conviction if my defence was "but Judge, he was mean to me verbally" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 After an Appeal and submissions they reduced the penalty (which I agree with as the original penalty was a bit harsh) And? I agreed that lowering the penalty was ok. So what? That doesn't mean I critiqued or criticised the earlier penalty You're going off on a petty tirade and tangent If you agree it's ok to hit someone while he's being held by someone else just say so Chief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Michael said: Yes, you can imagine my reaction....but I doubt I'd escape a conviction if my defence was "but Judge, he was mean to me verbally" Did Russo lay a complaint with the Police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Michael said: That doesn't mean I critiqued or criticised the earlier penalty FFS you said it was "a bit harsh"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Michael said: If you agree it's ok to hit someone while he's being held by someone else just say so Chief So the end play counters everything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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