The Centaur Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 https://loveracing.nz/News/42517/WeighIn-25September.aspx go to 39.00 minute Not much specifics. Bit vague at times. However some items. 1. Trackside Premiere channel on Premiere days. Now that is faulty logic. I contend the Premiere lead up should be before the day e.g. Friday nights with say a separate betting pool for viewers. The old calcutta Friday nights were great creating interest amongst sports club people. Also the show must be available say on Youtube particularly on the day for viewers to go to and fro between channels. 2. Possibility of Free to Air TV. That would be their best achievement so far. Big if though. 3. Retail terminals. Who needs them. Just put up a whole lot of Qrcodes and make the other end attractive. Hopefully that's what Cameron Rodger means by tinkering with the TAB App. 4. Had to chuckle Guerin saying that all club, NZTR and TAB management love Entain. Offcourse they do. They've probably got a pay rise and now leave all their work up to Entain. 5. When quizzed on how Entain would grow the customer base he seemed to suggest that sports betting would be the focus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Free to air T V is the key to racing having a future 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, nod said: Free to air T V is the key to racing having a future Wouldn't Entain be better at sponsoring Free To Air TV instead of BGP type syndicates, Stakes for select races and buying slots in The Everest for I Wish I Win? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Wouldn't Entain be better at sponsoring Free To Air TV instead of BGP type syndicates, Stakes for select races and buying slots in The Everest for I Wish I Win? Can't see FTA tv making any difference to turnover. Good if they do but it's a drop in the ocean for that purpose. More important things to do and investments to make imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, curious said: Can't see FTA tv making any difference to turnover. Good if they do but it's a drop in the ocean for that purpose. More important things to do and investments to make imo. Look at world wide trends. Women sport attendance is on the up. e.g. FIFA World Cup in NZ. Although Trackside can be streamed free that's still not satisfactory for getting converts particularly women. I suggest a free to air channel run by the codes in partnership with Trackside is the best way. Many advertisers & sponsors aren't comfortable sponsoring the TAB whereas they are for racing and community events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, curious said: Can't see FTA tv making any difference to turnover. Good if they do but it's a drop in the ocean for that purpose. More important things to do and investments to make imo. Investments where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 What actually is the difference money wise screening trackside on Sky as opposed to freeview, freeview has the greatest audience,, someone must know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Investments where? I've been talking about that on these social media sites and elsewhere for at least the last 15 years and not going to reitrerate that here. Essentially though, that we offer a much more competitive, attractive and fair wagering product alongside a much more competitive, attractive and fair racing product. Entain is the only organisation I've seen in NZ racing for the last couple of decades that might have a handle on that. If not, it's game over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, mikeynz said: What actually is the difference money wise screening trackside on Sky as opposed to freeview, freeview has the greatest audience,, someone must know. Does freeview have the greatest sports audience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, curious said: Does freeview have the greatest sports audience? I suppose the TAB compulsive signers have got into some deal with skytv to prevent going with freeview. If racing got onto freeview it would not have any competition with other sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, curious said: Does freeview have the greatest sports audience? Any live sport on free to air will always have a bigger audience, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Spark sport had trackside, but it didn't shift to freeview. People may be moving away from normal tv, but streaming everything online, nice to have balance, does everybody want to spend all their life online, I don't, who does? Tvnz and Newstalk zb have the biggest audience in their various mediums because they are free to everyone. Edited September 26, 2023 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 Haven't heard much about National's racing policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, The Centaur said: Haven't heard much about National's racing policy. If geo blocking comes in ,.no tax for the Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 12 hours ago, The Centaur said: Haven't heard much about National's racing policy. Winnie'll bring that won't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Free to air sky Open has free to air sport all day, racing needs some, it's missing a trick here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Come on, if they run it like a business, they have 80% of their top punters, easier to get more spend from these types rather than worry about the 20% buck each way types. Let’s face it, if you can’t afford trackside each month, you probably shouldn’t be betting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Newmarket said: Come on, if they run it like a business, they have 80% of their top punters, easier to get more spend from these types rather than worry about the 20% buck each way types. Let’s face it, if you can’t afford trackside each month, you probably shouldn’t be betting! Totally agree. $18.70/month for the Sky Digital Rental holding package. That's a cup of coffee per week. And you have the free streaming option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Newmarket said: Come on, if they run it like a business, they have 80% of their top punters, easier to get more spend from these types rather than worry about the 20% buck each way types. Let’s face it, if you can’t afford trackside each month, you probably shouldn’t be betting! The problem being the buck E/W crowd are usually the heart & soul of the sport , they consistently follow it give it a bit of character etc. Imho ignore them at the peril of the sport, we've seen many sports suffer through their lack of empathy/attention to the base of their sport. This can be seen by the lack of media attention racing gets outside of its own propaganda, interest in the sport has to be at an all time low amongst sports fans & sinking faster than the Titanic in that area. Having said that racing has kicked that lot when they were down for the last decade or more & they are probably not returning free to air or not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 The 18 70 you pay for the Sky box rental is nothing, the question is what do racing benefit from by being on sky's platform as opposed to free to air as in the freeview platform, many people don't have sky, not because of money, just can't be bothered with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 8 hours ago, curious said: Totally agree. $18.70/month for the Sky Digital Rental holding package. That's a cup of coffee per week. And you have the free streaming option. What would it cost for Free to Air? As much as is being paid for The Everest slot and promotion? BTW I find the TAB promotion a bit misleading - The Everest isn't the richest thoroughbred race nor is I Wish I Win the fastest sprinter. As for the streaming option it is a dog unless you are on high level broadband. On that point I found Racing.Com a better option for OZ racing. Especially watching Imperatriz the other night at Moonee Valley. I actually turned Trackside off on the TV and watched on my phone. The lead in and post race interviews were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What would it cost for Free to Air? As much as is being paid for The Everest slot and promotion? BTW I find the TAB promotion a bit misleading - The Everest isn't the richest thoroughbred race nor is I Wish I Win the fastest sprinter. As for the streaming option it is a dog unless you are on high level broadband. On that point I found Racing.Com a better option for OZ racing. Especially watching Imperatriz the other night at Moonee Valley. I actually turned Trackside off on the TV and watched on my phone. The lead in and post race interviews were great. It's OK to watch the odd race on ya phone, it's good as a option, after all you can be out and about but all day, highly unlikely. The audio stream is poor, well it is when it's busy, they just change channels at their own discretion, often Matt Cross or whoever is previewing or reviewing a race then bang out of nowhere a greyhound race from Timbuktu starts bearing out, not a good listen but then it's fine if your out and about and want to hear a specific race but listening all day that would be a hard ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Just now, mikeynz said: It's OK to watch the odd race on ya phone, it's good as a option, after all you can be out and about but all day, highly unlikely. The audio stream is poor, well it is when it's busy, they just change channels at their own discretion, often Matt Cross or whoever is previewing or reviewing a race then bang out of nowhere a greyhound race from Timbuktu starts bearing out, not a good listen but then it's fine if your out and about and want to hear a specific race but listening all day that would be a hard ask. Uses heaps of data on your phone as well as they broadcast in HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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