the galah Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) anyone watching today had to be impressed with this horses ability to be about 50m behind the field at start point ,yet still be able to get up and win in a race run in 2.55.38. Now i'm sure the punters were very happy seeing that,given he was a $1.30 favorite. But my question is,how much will it effect this horse long term.You don't see those type of performancers that often,but when you do, you often see in 12-18 months time,a horse with issues.time will tell i suppose.. the point i make is,yes it was a wonderful run by a very talented horse,but was it wise?My guess is no. Edited November 19, 2023 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, the galah said: anyone watching today had to be impressed with this horses ability to be about 50m behind the field at start point ,yet still be able to get up and win in a race run in 2.55.38. Now i'm sure the punters were very happy seeing that,given he was a $1.30 favorite. But my question is,how much will it effect this horse long term.You don't see those type of performancers that often,but when you do, you often see in 12-18 months time,a horse with issues.time will tell i suppose.. the point i make is,yes it was a wonderful run by a very talented horse,but was it wise?My guess is no. Massive run for technically an early 3 year old. They went hard up front and Nathan Williamson just let the horse go its isn speed without chasing it up early on after missing going away with the field. Only caught the field pretty late on and finished over the top with the last quarter in not much under 30 secs, which helped a lot for it to win. Horse certainly has massive potential and no doubt will receive offers from overseas buyers! Nathan Williamson is very skilled so will look after the horse if it stays in NZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brodie said: Massive run for technically an early 3 year old. They went hard up front and Nathan Williamson just let the horse go its isn speed without chasing it up early on after missing going away with the field. Only caught the field pretty late on and finished over the top with the last quarter in not much under 30 secs, which helped a lot for it to win. Horse certainly has massive potential and no doubt will receive offers from overseas buyers! Nathan Williamson is very skilled so will look after the horse if it stays in NZ. He has sold a few horses for good money,but can you think of any that have gone on? I personally would not be buying the horse that won today. I would think too risky an investment given the run it had tp put in today. i'm not knocking his training or driving skills. Hes tops at both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Performance of the year! 0.2 outside the NZ Record held by Republican Party on a fast Ashburton track after doing 50m at the start. Could be anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nowornever said: Performance of the year! 0.2 outside the NZ Record held by Republican Party on a fast Ashburton track after doing 50m at the start. Could be anything Ran his last 800m in 55.6 wide on the track as well. Edited November 19, 2023 by Nowornever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 (edited) On 19/11/2023 at 6:17 PM, the galah said: He has sold a few horses for good money,but can you think of any that have gone on? I personally would not be buying the horse that won today. I would think too risky an investment given the run it had tp put in today. i'm not knocking his training or driving skills. Hes tops at both. So dreams are free resumes tomorrow in the last at wyndham. hes had the two trials,in both he showed that he wants to run wide in a straight line. Hes no doubt a classy horse ability wise and is paying only $1.50 on ff tomorrow and may win,but him having to be steered hard on one rein i think could be a worry. Maybe he may just go to the front and the other drivers just conceed early,but if they actually try and beat him then who knows.Or maybe they may treat him with something to ease any possible pain which will help. Edited October 3 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 3 Author Share Posted December 3 (edited) On 19/11/2023 at 5:16 PM, the galah said: anyone watching today had to be impressed with this horses ability to be about 50m behind the field at start point ,yet still be able to get up and win in a race run in 2.55.38. But my question is,how much will it effect this horse long term.You don't see those type of performancers that often,but when you do, you often see in 12-18 months time,a horse with issues.time will tell i suppose.. the point i make is,yes it was a wonderful run by a very talented horse,but was it wise?My guess is no. so here we are,just over 12 months on from my original post and Dreams Are Free is a horse with issues,as i predicted. What we will get from dreams are free in the derby,well who really knows. A recent story on harnesslink quoted trainer nathan williamson as saying,dreams are free will remain in canterbury for more tests after the derby,as he has some sort of breathing issue. from a horse being written up by many as exceptional, to a horse with issues. that must be very frustrating for his connections. will he bounce back,well i couldn't predict that with the same certaity i did,that he would have issues. Maybe he will and maybe he won't.You would think he would be getting some sort of treatment for the upcoming race. but i think the moral of the story is to recognise the patterns from racing and not try and make the mistakes others have made. then again,many will disagree i suppose. Edited December 3 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 3 hours ago, the galah said: What we will get from dreams are free in the derby,well who really knows. It would be a huge run to win from that draw ? in that quality field this Friday. Maybe Renegade from the Pole draw could get the Fish and Chips ? He closed real well the other day. Dreams Are Free might see his older Half brother Win though. A couple of races before. Don't Stop Dreaming could be knocking off Merlin in the (Group 1) 4 year-old Christian Cullen Race ? they had a great duel in the Derby last year and run the Quinalla PHOTO below. . Both were enormous at their last starts the other day too, as well as this great race last December. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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