Spells of Love......comments

[Walt]

I watched him win @ Nelson earlier in the year and think he'll win his share. The fact the mighty Tussle is in his bloodline sparked my interest. He looks to be getting closer to good form again so noticed he is in @ The Mot tomorrow.

Have noticed some odd descriptions in the comments of horses in recent months that left me scratching my head a bit. The comments on Spells of Love fall into that category especially when you consider some punters place a lot of weight on the comments that long term are usually fairly accurate. 

It says "is grass and track specialist"...........As far as his grass track record goes, he's had three starts for one placing. That's ok but does it qualify as a grass track specialist? His track form is one start for an unplaced run. How does that constitute being a track specialist?

I have no desire to be overly critical but surely accuracy is important with such matters? 

 

 

[the galah]

59 minutes ago, Walt said:

I watched him win @ Nelson earlier in the year and think he'll win his share. The fact the mighty Tussle is in his bloodline sparked my interest. He looks to be getting closer to good form again so noticed he is in @ The Mot tomorrow.

Have noticed some odd descriptions in the comments of horses in recent months that left me scratching my head a bit. The comments on Spells of Love fall into that category especially when you consider some punters place a lot of weight on the comments that long term are usually fairly accurate. 

It says "is grass and track specialist"...........As far as his grass track record goes, he's had three starts for one placing. That's ok but does it qualify as a grass track specialist? His track form is one start for an unplaced run. How does that constitute being a track specialist?

I have no desire to be overly critical but surely accuracy is important with such matters? 

 

 

I would guess the person doing the comments has mistakenly looked at the stats of the horse above(no 17) Spells of love(No 18). The number 17 horse has 3 wins and 3 placings from 9 grass track runs and 1 win and 1 placing from 2 runs on the track.

Spells of love is back in grade but i'm not sure john dunn driving some of the stable at the moment with the confidence he normally has in them. I watched andy hall today. He was well backed on the tote but made no attempt at any stage to improve. I didn't back him myself,but thought if you had you wouldn't have understood why such a negative drive,especially given he was following a stablemate who moved up.

Blair orange seems to have an edge over the rest of the drivers at the moment.5 winners today including, dalness arizona, a 9 year old 97 start 1 win horse. 

Edited November 25, 2023 by the galah

[Walt]

On 11/25/2023 at 9:14 PM, the galah said:

I would guess the person doing the comments has mistakenly looked at the stats of the horse above(no 17) Spells of love(No 18). The number 17 horse has 3 wins and 3 placings from 9 grass track runs and 1 win and 1 placing from 2 runs on the track.

Spells of love is back in grade but i'm not sure john dunn driving some of the stable at the moment with the confidence he normally has in them. I watched andy hall today. He was well backed on the tote but made no attempt at any stage to improve. I didn't back him myself,but thought if you had you wouldn't have understood why such a negative drive,especially given he was following a stablemate who moved up.

Blair orange seems to have an edge over the rest of the drivers at the moment.5 winners today including, dalness arizona, a 9 year old 97 start 1 win horse. 

I didn't consider that option Galah but it's a definite possibility. We all make blunders along the way but it's a bit sad when you have to consider the possibility the comments person may have been referring to a runner other than the one you were reading. 

I don't bet much these days and didn't back Spells of Love myself, in fact, I only watched a replay later on Sunday. I agree about the drive. John is a very good driver these days and wondered where Sunday's race fit in with the horses plans. We are only six weeks away from the January meeting at Nelson. The Dunn's will take a good team there and they have an outstanding record and enjoy it there very much. Spells of Love ran a third and first there in January this year and I could imagine a similar or even better result in six weeks. 

This is probably irrelevant but I spoke with one of the listed owners on Sunday and they confirmed they have not been in the ownership for three years

Not sure who is responsible for comments on horses in both codes? I always assumed harness runners were done by HRNZ. On Saturday I thought about having a nibble @Doomben but two of the runners I was interested in had confusing negative comments. One runner said 'No Appeal' and another advised to "look elsewhere". ....back in the day I would have trusted my own judgement but as I don't spend as much time doing the form these days it didn't take much to talk me out of having a bet. Both horses won easily paying around $7

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, Walt said:

Not sure who is responsible for comments on horses in both codes? I always assumed harness runners were done by HRNZ. On Saturday I thought about having a nibble @Doomben but two of the runners I was interested in had confusing negative comments.

I use Sportsbet nearly everyday Walt. They tend to put a comment about 4 of the runners on the right hand side , and i often have a chuckle about them. You can sometimes read between the lines who they 'Really' fancy or more importantly , Who they want you to risk your money on. I ALWAYS do my own form/ judgement . (usually involves ALLstars lol 😆)

As for 'Spells of Love' ... many BOAY experts (way better than most form experts everywhere 😆🍻) could give you a fairly accurate Comment on it's prospects.

mine would be >>>>>😉

SPELLS OF LOVE : unplaced last 10.  in top stable but still loves to gallop for no apparent reason. so if the Dunn's can't get it trotting then you are looking at kissing your dollars goodbye. Best to skip over and look for a better gaited horse . (the pacers in the following race perhaps )  

[Walt]

4 hours ago, Gammalite said:

I use Sportsbet nearly everyday Walt. They tend to put a comment about 4 of the runners on the right hand side , and i often have a chuckle about them. You can sometimes read between the lines who they 'Really' fancy or more importantly , Who they want you to risk your money on. I ALWAYS do my own form/ judgement . (usually involves ALLstars lol 😆)

As for 'Spells of Love' ... many BOAY experts (way better than most form experts everywhere 😆🍻) could give you a fairly accurate Comment on it's prospects.

mine would be >>>>>😉

SPELLS OF LOVE : unplaced last 10.  in top stable but still loves to gallop for no apparent reason. so if the Dunn's can't get it trotting then you are looking at kissing your dollars goodbye. Best to skip over and look for a better gaited horse . (the pacers in the following race perhaps )  

Reading between the lines can be an art form Gammalite. I remember yarning with Lex Nichols about the form in our race books many moons ago. I'd see a horse climbing all over them for a run in the straight and finish under a strangle hold out of the placings. Then I'd see the racebook form for the runner and it would read "Midfield, battle on fairly"....I was straight to the TAB  .....my yarn with Lex came post race  

Prior to racing being on TV here, I had an advantage over many punters as I attended race meetings all over NZ. On average one meeting every week. In addition to that, the TAB would send me all the replays of the previous weeks races on VHS. As a result, I usually knew when mistakes with form descriptions were made in the racebooks.

As for trotters. I tend to avoid those talented trotters these days that can blow to bits at any moment.  We do have trainers that can fix just about any issues the trotters have. One of those trainers is the Dunn stable. A few years ago Sundees Sun. In the early days he'd look likely then blow to bits. Spells of Love is no Sundees Sun with just two wins in the bin but he does have the mighty trotting mare Tussle in his bloodline. 

He does have some of the family ability and I feel he will win his share. You'll note the name "Irvine" in the owner / breeder list. I'm confident he prefers grit over grass.  He does have speed so I recommend you follow him over the summer, especially @ Nelson. I'll be surprised if he's not a 5 win horse by the end of January. 

 

[Gammalite]

47 minutes ago, Walt said:

Spells of Love is no Sundees Sun with just two wins in the bin but he does have the mighty trotting mare Tussle in his bloodline.

Yes I do remember that fantastic mare . here she is winning the Interdominion in Gammalite like style. Peter Jones gone to sleep it was so easy .

'Tussle' the mum of Scuffle who is mum of Spell who is mum of Spells of Love. 

Not enough to get me on board Walt . but best of Luck if you're on that one at Nelson.

The Trot Interdominion starts this week and there's better one's there for you. Perhaps QUEEN ELIDA will win for All her New Zealand owners including the Barron family . will be great ? 🏆 

Your 'Bonnie's Chance'/ 'No Response' man is still alive Walt. He won the Interdominion again 2 years ago with MAORI LAW , and he is bringing him to Brisbane Friday night. Perhaps a better bet than Spells of Love ?? . Richard Brosnan a great trainer of Trotters over the years. Send Spells of Love to him I reckon 😉😂

heres Tussle winning the Interdominion at Addington.

 

[Chief Stipe]

12 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Yes I do remember that fantastic mare . here she is winning the Interdominion in Gammalite like style. Peter Jones gone to sleep it was so easy .

'Tussle' the mum of Scuffle who is mum of Spell who is mum of Spells of Love. 

Not enough to get me on board Walt . but best of Luck if you're on that one at Nelson.

The Trot Interdominion starts this week and there's better one's there for you. Perhaps QUEEN ELIDA will win for All her New Zealand owners including the Barron family . will be great ? 🏆 

Your 'Bonnie's Chance'/ 'No Response' man is still alive Walt. He won the Interdominion again 2 years ago with MAORI LAW , and he is bringing him to Brisbane Friday night. Perhaps a better bet than Spells of Love ?? . Richard Brosnan a great trainer of Trotters over the years. Send Spells of Love to him I reckon 😉😂

heres Tussle winning the Interdominion at Addington.

 

Don't forget my Alumni Dr Cliff Irvine from Lincoln College.  Owner, Breeder, Trainer of Tussle.

[Walt]

59 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Don't forget my Alumni Dr Cliff Irvine from Lincoln College.  Owner, Breeder, Trainer of Tussle.

100% Chief.

Cliff knew exactly what he was doing. Highly respected man. 

 

[Walt]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Yes I do remember that fantastic mare . here she is winning the Interdominion in Gammalite like style. Peter Jones gone to sleep it was so easy .

'Tussle' the mum of Scuffle who is mum of Spell who is mum of Spells of Love. 

Not enough to get me on board Walt . but best of Luck if you're on that one at Nelson.

The Trot Interdominion starts this week and there's better one's there for you. Perhaps QUEEN ELIDA will win for All her New Zealand owners including the Barron family . will be great ? 🏆 

Your 'Bonnie's Chance'/ 'No Response' man is still alive Walt. He won the Interdominion again 2 years ago with MAORI LAW , and he is bringing him to Brisbane Friday night. Perhaps a better bet than Spells of Love ?? . Richard Brosnan a great trainer of Trotters over the years. Send Spells of Love to him I reckon 😉😂

heres Tussle winning the Interdominion at Addington.

 

You are right Gammalite. In several big races he just needed to know where Jack Smolenski was with Melvander. Tussle winning the 1985 Rowe Cup was no cake walk and showed both Tussle and Pete at their best. Still don't know how he got her out to grab Dragon's Pride for Noel Taylor and the Kelly clan. Great finish. Great mare

Speaking of the Barron's. Here's a trotter to mark down. Ken's 3 year old Create Time by Creatine.  Two from two but the way he won on Cup Day says he's got a big motor. Will only get better which is exciting

[Gammalite]

5 minutes ago, Walt said:

. Tussle winning the 1985 Rowe Cup was no cake walk

Yes Melvander was 2nd in the above photo at the Addington Interdominion.

Think Richard won a Rowe Cup with NO Response as well . Who can ever forget that barn-storming finish in his Addington Interdominion Win over the 2 Aussies .

Tell ya what . I haven't been to the trots in 3 years , but will go along Friday night for night one of the Interdominion and try and get photo of Maori law and Leap To Fame exclusive for BOAY on my little camera to post... with Richard and Grant. and of course hope they both qualify for the Final in December.

shame no Nz trained ones turning up . they won here 2001 with Yulestar (pacing) and Take A Moment (trotting final)

[Walt]

9 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Yes Melvander was 2nd in the above photo at the Addington Interdominion.

Think Richard won a Rowe Cup with NO Response as well . Who can ever forget that barn-storming finish in his Addington Interdominion Win over the 2 Aussies .

Tell ya what . I haven't been to the trots in 3 years , but will go along Friday night for night one of the Interdominion and try and get photo of Maori law and Leap To Fame exclusive for BOAY on my little camera to post... with Richard and Grant. and of course hope they both qualify for the Final in December.

shame no Nz trained ones turning up . they won here 2001 with Yulestar (pacing) and Take A Moment (trotting final)

Birdshit did win the Rowe Cup in 1981 with No Response beating Kenwood Song for Charlie Hunter and Nelson's McShane who also won a heat of the Interdoms prior to being exported to the United States in 1984. He was out of Single Girl who also produced Brian Hill's best pacer Single Lord who was also exported to the States in 1980 much to my disappointment as I was a fan of his. Chief will be very familiar with both of the Hill horses.

The field No Response beat in the Rowe Cup was a good one as it always is. Thriller Dee, Cal Brydon, Sir Castleton, Stormy Morn and About Now etc.

Will look forward to seeing your photos Gammalite.

The Interdominions has for many kiwis lost it's allure. This is reflected by the lack of entries from here. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXhpyDVk0hI

 

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

49 minutes ago, Walt said:

Nelson's McShane who also won a heat of the Interdoms prior to being exported to the United States in 1984. He was out of Single Girl who also produced Brian Hill's best pacer Single Lord who was also exported to the States in 1980 much to my disappointment as I was a fan of his. Chief will be very familiar with both of the Hill horses.

Yep especially McShane who I had the pleasure of regularly driving in training.  His stable name was John but should have been Mr Ed as he was near human at times.  Single Girl was given to Brian and George Hill by Ted Lowe and Single Lord and McShane weren't they only good horse she produced.

Was lucky to do some long trips on the float from Nelson to Christchurch with McShane to race at Addington.  He would be stabled at the Nyhans stud in Templeton.

I can tell many stories about John - an incredible thinking horse.  I used to jog him early in the mornings and get the instructions from the trainer on what to do - "warm him up for a lap then a brisk 40 min jog right handed".  I unhook him from the post, he stands perfectly with one eye looking back and the moment he sees me settled in the sulky he turns and starts walking down to the track.  Get down to the track and before I had a chance to steer in the right direction John had already starting a slow jog in the right direction.  Exactly one lap later picked up his speed and exactly on 40mins started slowing down went passed the turn off and stopped then turned around and starting walking back to the stables up to the post and stands there while I go to hook him up.  I hadn't moved an inch the whole hour nor had I had to give him any instructions or move the reins.  Washed him down then put him in the inside sawdust roll - he rolls walks up to the entrance - I ask "are you finished yet" - he shakes his head and goes back rolls again and again.  He comes back and you ask are you finished and he nods his head.  But he had a few little dirty tricks to show you who was boss - getting out of the roll and up to the concrete floor he would put his front hoof on your boot and give it a good squeeze.  Really nice on a 7degree frost morning!  Some of his race stories are worth retelling.  He could really trot too.

Single Lord was the quietest stallion racehorse I've ever seen.  The Trainers children used to play with him and the horse wouldn't bat an eyelid.

[Gammalite]

56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yep especially McShane who I had the pleasure of regularly driving in training.

He's trotted to victory over the Oz superstar 'Scotch Notch' too Chief . you done some good training to pull that amazing feat off. 👍😆🍾

That very same hour in time....... old Wolfie was giving it to the Aussies as well . (in the 2nd photo) trying to knock off the legend.... Luckily it was just the 'Warm-up' night 2 weeks before the Grand Finals 🏆 🏆😎

 

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

He's trotted to victory over the Oz superstar 'Scotch Notch' too Chief . you done some good training to pull that amazing feat off. 👍😆🍾

Only conditioning!!!  He was in Ray Norton's stable for that win.

But like all the best horses they practically train themselves.  All you have to do is keep them happy.

[Walt]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yep especially McShane who I had the pleasure of regularly driving in training.  His stable name was John but should have been Mr Ed as he was near human at times.  Single Girl was given to Brian and George Hill by Ted Lowe and Single Lord and McShane weren't they only good horse she produced.

Was lucky to do some long trips on the float from Nelson to Christchurch with McShane to race at Addington.  He would be stabled at the Nyhans stud in Templeton.

I can tell many stories about John - an incredible thinking horse.  I used to jog him early in the mornings and get the instructions from the trainer on what to do - "warm him up for a lap then a brisk 40 min jog right handed".  I unhook him from the post, he stands perfectly with one eye looking back and the moment he sees me settled in the sulky he turns and starts walking down to the track.  Get down to the track and before I had a chance to steer in the right direction John had already starting a slow jog in the right direction.  Exactly one lap later picked up his speed and exactly on 40mins started slowing down went passed the turn off and stopped then turned around and starting walking back to the stables up to the post and stands there while I go to hook him up.  I hadn't moved an inch the whole hour nor had I had to give him any instructions or move the reins.  Washed him down then put him in the inside sawdust roll - he rolls walks up to the entrance - I ask "are you finished yet" - he shakes his head and goes back rolls again and again.  He comes back and you ask are you finished and he nods his head.  But he had a few little dirty tricks to show you who was boss - getting out of the roll and up to the concrete floor he would put his front hoof on your boot and give it a good squeeze.  Really nice on a 7degree frost morning!  Some of his race stories are worth retelling.  He could really trot too.

Single Lord was the quietest stallion racehorse I've ever seen.  The Trainers children used to play with him and the horse wouldn't bat an eyelid.

These are the stories I can't get enough of Chief so thanks for sharing. Back stories in our game are what rock most for me. 

I was a fan of almost anything by Lordship with my all time fav being Lord Module. Spent many hours with him before and after his 1979 Cup win and his staggering 1981 Matson FFA win.

Having a Cup Class horse like Single Lord in Nelson lifted the profile of harness racing in the area and I'm happy to say I won a few $$ off him.  Did he produce any runners you know of in the States? 

I can't recall trotters that won heats of the Interdom's but know McShane did. How cool to learn about him almost 40 years after he last raced here. Cheers

Would I be correct to say these two were the best pacer and trotter to come out of Nelson? Chesapeake was a very handy mare for Noel Berkett who also had another decent pacing mare in Lady Eastburn. 

Interesting to learn Single Girl was gifted by Ted Lowe. As you know, he and Paul Young had many fruitful visits to Nelson. They had a handy pacer called Dundas that won a decent race at Addington in the early 80's but I can't recall which race. Ted also had Wing Commander who won the 3 year old race at Nelson in 1978. He was another one exported to the US. 

I will avoid name dropping here but on Cup Day eve we had a very pleasant dinner and drinks with a man who is a legend in our sport and has been involved in winning multiple NZ Cups that are regarded by many in the game as iconic epic Cups. He was also the regular driver of some wonderful mares in both gaits. Hearing chapter and verse about the horses and the races was a memorable treat for a harness nut like me. 

I can tell you I'd pay good $$ to read the back story of the horses and people involved in our big races over the years but happy to admit I'm a harness racing addict. Always have been and always will be. 

I came back to Nelson last year after decades away. I've spoken to some prominent trainers that feel Nelson has an excellent track and would have been the perfect spot to race a Jewels meeting but the infrastructure is unfortunately just a bit average and in real need of an upgrade. That won't happen especially with harness racing on the slide and the winter meeting at Nelson being shitcanned. Having just one meeting a year at Nelson is incredibly disappointing but sign of the times I guess. Probably only a matter of time before housing replaces horses. Hope not. 

 

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, Walt said:

Having a Cup Class horse like Single Lord in Nelson lifted the profile of harness racing in the area and I'm happy to say I won a few $$ off him.  Did he produce any runners you know of in the States? 

Unfortunately he died in the States.  I was with the Hill family when they found out.  A very sad day as Single Lord was one of those gentleman horses that raced well and a real competitor but was a real softie at home.

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, Walt said:

I was a fan of almost anything by Lordship with my all time fav being Lord Module. Spent many hours with him before and after his 1979 Cup win and his staggering 1981 Matson FFA win.

I was in the owners/trainers stand at Addington for that race.  I'll never forget it.  Why were you there?

[Walt]

2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I was in the owners/trainers stand at Addington for that race.  I'll never forget it.  Why were you there?

I had met Ces and Vonnie in 1977 and I know the year because Sole Command won the Cup that year  . Every time I was in Christchurch I'd call in for a cuppa and a scone with them. Their daughter Bonnie married Kevin Williams of Master Mood fame. I became familiar with the trials and tribulations of Lord Module. The horse was none to fond of me or others I saw  

I was there as a punter and a stable supporter.  Ces had another handy horse at the time called Sun Seeker. 

Both races were very memorable. His 79 Cup win was staggering. I feel he could have beaten anything that day despite some controversy during the race. His Matson FFA was filled with emotion. Big question mark over him even getting away. Addington racegoers knew all about Lord Modules motor but his antics were equally well known. I've never been on a race course since that had a buzz like that. I honestly think that moment is intrinsically linked with my love of harness racing over 42 years later. I didn't have much on him so that wasn't the reason the race was so memorable. He gave the best horses around a start and a beating that night.

I must admit to having a little flash back on Cup Day when Chase A Dream won. That victory was very memorable. We were in the Owners / Trainers stand right on the finish line.

Sorry to hear of Single Lord's death. I can well imagine under the circumstances that would have been very sad news. Did he actually race in the States and did he manage to win races? Same question of McShane? 

[Blackie]

Agree with everything you say there Walt, LM, what an excitement machine, travel to see him run.
ps Kevin & Bonnie(& now Kelly) still doing the business at Tall Tree Stud 👌.

[Walt]

1 hour ago, Blackie said:

Agree with everything you say there Walt, LM, what an excitement machine, travel to see him run.
ps Kevin & Bonnie(& now Kelly) still doing the business at Tall Tree Stud 👌.

Hey Blackie,

Cheers for that. I know when Ces retired from driving he gained a lot of pleasure and satisfaction from Kevin and Bonnie's deeds and would be very proud now.

What a legacy Ces left with his horses and their deeds. False Step may have won three NZ Cups but for good reason he rated Lord Module his best horse. The people that worked with or for Ces went on to fly the flag superbly in the game and of course Bonnie. 

I was working at the Easter Show in Christchurch in 1975 when Ces and Vonnie approached me. As a harness fan I knew who he was and his no nonsense reputation but I found him engaging, chatty and charming. We went for a cup of tea that should have lasted ten minutes but it was more like an hour and ten minutes. I only have fond memories of him and Lord Module is still my fav horse over forty years after his final race. 

When we look at who he beat in the Matson FFA in dramatic circumstances, it tells it's own story. Gammalite, Armalight, Hands Down and Bonnies Chance. 

 

NZ Metropolitan Trotting Club Inc

Saturday, 21 November 1981

 

Race 8 - Allan Matson Free-For-All (Gr2), $15,000, C9 MOBILE PACE, 2600m

 

Weather:

Fine

Track:

Fast  (Addington Raceway)

    Race History

SHOW STIPES

Participants for Race 8: Allan Matson Free-For-All (Gr2)

Place	Book	Horse	Barrier	Hcap	Stakes	Fav	Time	Margin	Driver	Trainer
1	1	Lord Module		fr	9,750.00	3/5	3-15.5		J W Smolenski	Cecil Devine
2	2	Gammalite		fr	3,000.00	4/4			W B Clarke
3	3	Armalight		fr	1,500.00	1/1			R H Negus
4	4	Hands Down		fr	750.00	2/3
5	5	Bonnie's Chance		fr	0.00	5/2
6	6	Quiet Win		fr	0.00	8/8
7	7	Idolmite		fr	0.00	6/6
8	8	False Regal		fr	0.00	10/9
9	9	Trio		fr	0.00	11/11
10	10	Glen Moria		fr	0.00	9/10
11	11	Superior Chance		fr	0.00	7/7
Total Stakes:			$15,000.00

Dividends

$7.15. $2.25. $2.00. $1.35. Quinella $26.35.

Margins

1 length, 2 1/4 lengths, 1/2head

Times

Mile Rate: 2-00.9

 

 

 

 

[Gammalite]

14 hours ago, Walt said:

1 1 Lord Module   fr 9,750.00 3/5 3-15.5   J W Smolenski Cecil Devine 2 2 Gammalite   fr 3,000.00 4/4     W B Clarke

com'on Walt . Cecil (my fellow Tasmanian ) got a bit lucky there ? 😆😂 you are more likely to see the '1' rather than that '2' next to the great chestnut superhorse.  maybe i just wanted you to have a nice evening out 1981 november evening and let him on past.

16 hours ago, Blackie said:

Agree with everything you say there Walt, LM, what an excitement machine, travel to see him run.

What if he didn't run ? liked to Not Score Up at times . A lot of travel to dwell at the start old mate 😎 Better manners you get from the beasty Gammalite 😎.  At least he gets going and gets in the mix ? even to this very day 😂😁

[Walt]

9 hours ago, Gammalite said:

com'on Walt . Cecil (my fellow Tasmanian ) got a bit lucky there ? 😆😂 you are more likely to see the '1' rather than that '2' next to the great chestnut superhorse.  maybe i just wanted you to have a nice evening out 1981 november evening and let him on past.

What if he didn't run ? liked to Not Score Up at times . A lot of travel to dwell at the start old mate 😎 Better manners you get from the beasty Gammalite 😎.  At least he gets going and gets in the mix ? even to this very day 😂😁

Ces hadn't been a Tasmanian since Jesus was in short pants and was proud to be ....Kiwi  

Gammalite was a beauty and you always knew what you were going to get but both the horse and Bruce Clarke knew if the real Lord Module turned up he'd give them both a cold when he flashed by. It would have been deflating knowing the best they could hope for is a minor placing but I appreciate your optimism  

[Chief Stipe]

On 29/11/2023 at 1:20 PM, Walt said:

Sorry to hear of Single Lord's death. I can well imagine under the circumstances that would have been very sad news. Did he actually race in the States and did he manage to win races? Same question of McShane? 

Yes it was sad as Single Lord was a real gentleman of a horse.  Yes I think they both won races.  Shame as a Lordship horse of a good size, speed and temperament and out of a Bachelor Hanover mare he would have made a good sire.

[Chief Stipe]

On 29/11/2023 at 1:20 PM, Walt said:

I became familiar with the trials and tribulations of Lord Module. The horse was none to fond of me or others I saw

His quarter cracks caused him immense problems.  I remember seeing Jack Smolenski after the FFA in the drivers room basically stunned with what Lord Module had just achieved.  The quarter cracks were bad enough to flick blood back onto his silks.   Probably wouldn't have been able to race in today's world.

[Walt]

17 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

His quarter cracks caused him immense problems.  I remember seeing Jack Smolenski after the FFA in the drivers room basically stunned with what Lord Module had just achieved.  The quarter cracks were bad enough to flick blood back onto his silks.   Probably wouldn't have been able to race in today's world.

They were a huge issue and it was a team effort to manage the best they could. Imagine what he could have achieved without that career ending type problem. 

On natural ability, he's still the best horse I've seen.