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On 17/07/2024 at 4:32 PM, Yankiwi said:

Early days.

Worrying trajectory.

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Why aren't they catching injuries post-race?

 

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Blackcurrant wasn't vetted post-race.

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Drive Angry wasn't vetted post-race.

No stand-down issued for a pin muscle injury?

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Seems to me they might be trying to coverup race day injuries sustained on the crooked track.

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57 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Seems to me they might be trying to coverup race day injuries sustained on the crooked track.

Perhaps in the first case you quoted the soreness didn't display until after cooling down.

BTW the track is straight.

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1 hour ago, Yankiwi said:

Drive Angry wasn't vetted post-race.

No stand-down issued for a pin muscle injury?

Again probably because the dog didn't display any injury until later.  I'm sure the records will be updated if required.

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1 hour ago, Yankiwi said:

It was updated, today.

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The dog was found to have a pin muscle injury after the event. No stand-down imposed.

Read it for yourself if you'd like.

https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15981/stewards-report.aspx

FFS you pedantic prick.  The trainer found the problem AFTER the event.

Wait for the records to be updated.  

Next...conspiracy 

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On 30/07/2024 at 8:27 PM, Chief Stipe said:

Wait for the records to be updated.  

Next...conspiracy 

OK, you asked for it.

Where is the track information for the new straight track on GRNZ's website?

https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/WAN/clubs-and-venue-detail.aspx

 

The WGRC doesn't even have a 313m race distance!

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They sure do have a nice spread about the oval track.

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Yet they have nothing about their new crooked track.

 

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2 hours ago, Yankiwi said:

OK, you asked for it.

Where is the track information for the new straight track on GRNZ's website?

https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/WAN/clubs-and-venue-detail.aspx

 

The WGRC doesn't even have a 313m race distance!

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They sure do have a nice spread about the oval track.

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Yet they have nothing about their new crooked track.

 

WTF does this post have to do with anything other than your aimless crusade?

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Things GRNZ intend to do, don't happen.

 

From the 2024 - 2026 GRNZ Statement of Intent.

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Actual number in the 2023/2024 season of sprint races on straight tracks (including non-tote) run was 28 or 7% of the number targeted.

Results from those 28 races

  • Number of starters = 200
  • Number of major injuries incurred = 2

1% (10 per 1000) starters were seriously injured on the straight track which was built with the purpose of reducing major injuries.

With only 200 starters, granted it is only a small sample size, however it ranked as the 2nd most likely for a starter to sustain a major injury on an NZ track.

 

 

From the 2025-2027 GRNZ Statement of Intent

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GRNZ has since dropped its target for the 2024/2025 season from 390 races in their previous SOI to 260 races for this season in their most current SOI.

Two race meets into the current racing season have been held and consisted of a total of 18 races, well off the pace to achieve 260 for the racing season.

Results from those 18 races

  • Number of starters = 122
  • Number of major injuries incurred = 1

0.82% (8 per 1000) starters have been seriously injured on the straight track this racing season.

Again, it's only a small sample size, but it is the only information available. The dogs simply aren't going down the track in numbers or regularity.

Once again it is ranking near the top of NZ tracks most likely for a greyhound to sustain a major injury this season.

 

Draw whatever conclusion you'd like from the above facts.

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55 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

GRNZ has since dropped its target for the 2024/2025 season from 390 races in their previous SOI to 260 races for this season in their most current SOI.

Two race meets into the current racing season have been held and consisted of a total of 18 races, well off the pace to achieve 260 for the racing season.

Could it have something to do with a reduction in the number of dogs?  You can't hold races if there are no dogs unless you centralise all to one track.  Is that what you are proposing?

57 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Results from those 18 races

  • Number of starters = 122
  • Number of major injuries incurred = 1

0.82% (8 per 1000) starters have been seriously injured on the straight track this racing season.

Too small a sample size to conclude anything.  However that hasn't stopped you in the past.  Your stats are pointless without a measure of variance.  I can recommend a good text book on the subject.

58 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Once again it is ranking near the top of NZ tracks most likely for a greyhound to sustain a major injury this season.

What do you mean "once again"?  As you have said yourself the sample size is very very small.

What is the natural attritition/injury rate of racing a Greyhound?  I suggest you look at other jurisdictions data and come up with a figure to measure against.

Until you do your ramblings have no significance and can be ignored.

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Crooked reporting from the crooked track.

The #8 is not leading here.

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The #8 is not leading here either.

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The #8 did lead & won here.

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Kookaburra Bob did not lead the race box to wire.

Kookaburra Bob did not lead the race at the 1st or 2nd sectional.

So why are the sectionals recorded as this?

 

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Every race today (at least) is recorded as the dog that won the race led at every sectional, which is not true.

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1 hour ago, Yankiwi said:

Crooked reporting from the crooked track.

The #8 is not leading here.

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The #8 is not leading here either.

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The #8 did lead & won here.

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Kookaburra Bob did not lead the race box to wire.

Kookaburra Bob did not lead the race at the 1st or 2nd sectional.

So why are the sectionals recorded as this?

 

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Every race today (at least) is recorded as the dog that won the race led at every sectional, which is not true.

WTF are you on about?

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Everybody knows that there isn't a microchip GPS in the dogs nose.  So although the times are automatically recorded the dog that led needs to be updated manually.  Or who knows maybe the times you see are actually for the dog that won the race.  Suggest you get your stopwatch out and tell us what the differential is.  Milliseconds matter to you it seems.

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15 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

WTF are you on about?

Quite simply really.

Either the judge is simply lazy, or the infrastructure of the track isn't set up for it, which would mean the track isn't ready for tote racing.

Here's Kookaburra Bob's race record.

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On all the other oval NZ tracks a "Bend" is recorded which essentially is the running position of each greyhound during the race.

You can see that he is slow to jump in his CAM & AK starts, jumping near to or at the back of the pack.

With his WNS starts, you have no clue how he went about winning yesterday or finishing 3rd in his previous start on the track.

So how do you get a line on how he runs on the track without watching each of his races?

You could look at the sectional time of each of his races to see if he led them at some point before the finish line, which in yesterday's case, it's recorded that he did, which is a lie.

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By the timer being tripped by either power to trip the boxes or power to the lure (no one knows which) ~

  • It took 6.45 seconds until the leading dog got to the 100m mark (not him).
  • It took 11.54 seconds until the leading dog got to the 200m mark (not him again).
  • It took 17.29 seconds for him to win the race.

 

 

How does Australia do it?

Professionally!

Healesville straight track yesterday.

https://fasttrack.grv.org.au/RaceField/ViewRaces/1045736298

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300m race - only one split time - each individual dogs split time & position in running at the split.

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8 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Quite simply really.

Either the judge is simply lazy, or the infrastructure of the track isn't set up for it, which would mean the track isn't ready for tote racing.

Why single out the Wanganui Staright Track only?

You seem to find something pathetic to bitch about daily.

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9 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

By the timer being tripped by either power to trip the boxes or power to the lure (no one knows which) ~

  • It took 6.45 seconds until the leading dog got to the 100m mark (not him).
  • It took 11.54 seconds until the leading dog got to the 200m mark (not him again).
  • It took 17.29 seconds for him to win the race.

How did you record those figures?

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22 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

How did you record those figures?

I didn't.

That's the figures GRNZ provided.

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In the reply the lids start to move at 0:02

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6 odd seconds later at 0:08 they're at the 100m mark (sectional 1).

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6 odd seconds later at 0:13 they're at the 200m mark (sectional 2).

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6 odd seconds later at 0:19 they're at the winning post (winners time).

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So

  • sectional 1 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 100m mark.
  • sectional 2 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 200m mark.
  • run home = 200m mark to finish line.
  • winners time = lids trigger (lure energized?) to finish line.

 

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2 hours ago, Yankiwi said:

I didn't.

That's the figures GRNZ provided.

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In the reply the lids start to move at 0:02

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6 odd seconds later at 0:08 they're at the 100m mark (sectional 1).

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6 odd seconds later at 0:13 they're at the 200m mark (sectional 2).

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6 odd seconds later at 0:19 they're at the winning post (winners time).

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So

  • sectional 1 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 100m mark.
  • sectional 2 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 200m mark.
  • run home = 200m mark to finish line.
  • winners time = lids trigger (lure energized?) to finish line.

 

WTF are you on about?

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But what's it got to do with anything?

The example you use as an exemplar has by comparison to NZ appalling Greyhound industry statistics.  Are you saying NZ should compromise dog safety by spending  money on technology to provide data that no one really uses?

Chazza you really are getting desperate in your obsessive crusade.

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On 26/07/2024 at 10:00 AM, Yankiwi said:

Why aren't the outside barrier fences parallel?

This is what GRNZ built.

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An example of how @Yankiwi manipulates the truth (tells lies) to support his false narrative.  He posted many posts on the Wanganui straight track being crooked.  He manipulated Google Maps images to support this narrative.  If he was genuine all he needed to do was use Google to search for images.

If he had (perhaps he did) he would have found this one which shows the track is in fact straight.

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Is the RIB investigating this or choosing to ignore the rule for the straight track?

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I've seen them walking over from the oval track kennels to the new track, then they're taken behind the boxes & then boxed away.

No stir up...

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17 hours ago, Yankiwi said:

Is the RIB investigating this or choosing to ignore the rule for the straight track?

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I've seen them walking over from the oval track kennels to the new track, then they're taken behind the boxes & then boxed away.

No stir up...

It's a right not an obligation.

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4 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

It's a rule that says "Every Club Must"

The club is not giving the trainers the opportunity to stir up their greyhound pre-race on the straight track.

Who told you that they are not?

Yes they must give trainers the opportunity but there is no obligation on trainers to avail of that opportunity.  Is there?

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