Maiki Sherman....the "Breaking News" - "Crisis" that wasn't.

[Walt]

How relevant are political polls ?

Context is always important. National, NZ First and ACT are now Government due mostly to the fact large numbers of New Zealanders despised what the previous Labour Government did and wanted a Government to do virtually the opposite. That's pretty much what they got. In what way are those voters represented in TV New Bulletins? They aren't. All we've had since the election in October is a relentless flood of vested interest nonsense bagging the Government dressed up as news. There is zero balance. As always, media agendas dictate the direction of travel. After six months of that crap it would be a shock to see political polls showing anything other than a fall in support for the new Government.   This is exactly why another poll seen in news bulletins on April 8th 2024 is far more relevant. What a shame Maiki Sherman like other media have chosen to ignore it.

 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018933239/people-s-trust-in-news-has-tumbled-over-the-past-year-survey-shows#:~:text=For the first time since,40 per cent in 2023.

 

How relevant is the timing of political polls? Three months out from an election polls are relevant. A month out they are more important. Two weeks out they are even more relevant.

130 weeks out from the next election polls mean absolutely squat. Opposition parties are in a dripping water on a stone campaign mode but the Government couldn't possibly care less and rightly so.

Nobody runs an election campaign better and smarter than Winston Peters so what NZF is polling at two and a half years out from election day has zero relevance. If you want a reminder of that just look at the 2% he was polling at six weeks out from election day 2023. How quickly has vested interest Maiki Sherman forgotten that? 

ACT and National are also just getting on with being Government. As time ticks over and the positive results of some of their policies start to come in you'll see folk knowing they are so much a better alternative to the previous load of Muppets who farcically still believe Hipkins is the right person to lead NZ despite conclusively proving he's absolutely not......unless of course you're Maori or Pacifica demanding and receiving special treatment, unemployed, gay, transgender or an unskilled immigrant.  Labour's new voter base. Forget blue collar workers. Why? Because that's what Labour has done.

When you have to clean up a mess left behind and start rebuilding things take time. Our media place zero relevance on that fact. It contradicts their agenda.

If the way TVNZ's new political editor presented the new poll result last night is any guide she's not fit for purpose. It was presented like a major crisis and how NZF would no longer be in Parliament if an election was held tomorrow. All context was lost as there is no election for 130 far king weeks. David Seymour copped the same sort of bullshit. 

It's not "Breaking News" and it's absolutely not a "Crisis".

What it is in reality is an irrelevant snapshot completely bereft of context. 

 

Edited April 29 by Walt

[Freda]

What is being said, now, about the revelations surrounding the management - financial and otherwise - of Kianga Ora?   I defy anyone, whatever their political persuasion to find something positive in that.

[Simon]

On 4/30/2024 at 10:31 AM, Walt said:

Nobody runs an election campaign better and smarter than Winston Peters so what NZF is polling at two and a half years out from election day has zero relevance. If you want a reminder of that just look at the 2% he was polling at six weeks out from election day 2023.

 

LMAO, what??? Winston is known to be an absolute campaing imbecile. His 2020 campain post covid success in govt should've been impossible to lose, strategists regard it as the biggest botch in NZ campaign history.

2% weeks out in 2023? There were many polls and it was a lot tighter. The guy has no real talent. All he knows how to do is selective negativity, every time he's been in Government he's been kicked out of parliament the next election, because Kiwis remember how much he sucks.

If he was even remotely good at campaining he wouldn't get crushed in his own district's electorate race.

The kind of people who think Winston is skilled are either the oldies who have mostly carked it or easily duped who think Trump is a "stable genius".

In 2026 he's done.

[Walt]

On 6/11/2024 at 9:14 AM, Simon said:

LMAO, what??? Winston is known to be an absolute campaing imbecile. His 2020 campain post covid success in govt should've been impossible to lose, strategists regard it as the biggest botch in NZ campaign history.

2% weeks out in 2023? There were many polls and it was a lot tighter. The guy has no real talent. All he knows how to do is selective negativity, every time he's been in Government he's been kicked out of parliament the next election, because Kiwis remember how much he sucks.

If he was even remotely good at campaining he wouldn't get crushed in his own district's electorate race.

The kind of people who think Winston is skilled are either the oldies who have mostly carked it or easily duped who think Trump is a "stable genius".

In 2026 he's done.

Always amuses me when people like yourself try and ridicule the intellect of anyone that has the audacity to see things differently than you. If you're going to take potshots from the shadows about Peters campaigning at least try and avoid making a complete dick of yourself by spelling the word "campaign" incorrectly on multiple occasions. 

I along with many others easily recall NZF being under 3% inside the last two months prior to the 2023 election. Me saying 2% six weeks out in at least two polls was accurate. Even Christopher Luxon wouldn't entertain a possible coalition with him when asked due to NZF being so far off 5% at the time.  

Over the years I've lost count at the number of times alleged experts have adamantly stated the political life of Winston Peters is dead in the water and he is about to be sent packing from Parliament, yet somehow he manages to survive and get back in. Why? Because he sees the damage being done and feels the vibe amongst a lot of New Zealanders. He says and does what those people want to hear and see. Not only does he do that but he times his campaign run so he doesn't go the early crow and burn out or finish strongly but too late. I'm 100% correct when I state nobody in Parliament does that better than Winston Peters. It's irrelevant if you like or dislike him. Facts are always going to be facts.

Peters entered Parliament in 1978 some 46 years ago. He started the NZF party 31 years ago in 1993. He's 79 years old and has managed to be a big player in NZ Politics for many years. He's now Deputy Prime Minister. 

Nobody can continue in politics for ever so at some point he'll have to call it a day. He'll be 81 in 2026 which will be 48 years after he first entered Parliament. You pretending to be Nostradamus about it is comical.

I wouldn't be shocked if he decided to run again in 2026 but if he doesn't or fails to pass the 5% he will have had a very long successful career. 

During the 2023 election campaign he stated female toilets and changing rooms should be a safe place for women and girls. At any other time people would wonder why anyone would need to say that. The fact the inept Chris Hipkins stated Peter's comment was inciting hatred toward the trans community highlighted how batshit crazy things have become. Hipkins was only interested in Virtue Signaling just like Ardern. How did that work out? 

Many people celebrated Peters 2023 election result. It helped get rid of the incompetent Labour Government. He chose to go into a coalition Government with Labour in 2017 which he later deeply regretted so it was fitting that he play an important role in getting rid of them in 2023. 

Your statement about Peters be an imbecile says nothing about him but does reflect on you. If the cap fits......

Let's face it, those that are Ardern and Hipkins sycophant's invariably also hate Winston Peters and Donald Trump. I applaud Trump. He's the most stand up Politician in the United States or anywhere else for that matter. That will mean nothing to you or the alphabet community, or those that believe Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the second coming or pro Palestine / Hamas groups are mothers milk. It does however mean a lot to everyone watching how divided the world has become as we lurch toward the inevitable commencement of major world conflict. A stand up leader of the free world has been missing in action since Biden became POTUS. Big numbers have all seen how badly that has worked out. Just as importantly the enemies of the United States have also seen but don't let the facts get in the way.

For the record, I know many who support Trump but have never heard anyone apart from you describe him as a "stable genius". 

Ever considered you being so left wing and bitter having dramatically clouded your judgement? 

[Honestjohn]

Willie Jackson promoted maori to  all top media jobs to promote  maori viewpoint.  Tova is the least qualified to do what she is doing at present. 

I watched a bit of TV where they interviewed people about tar rayo on signs. They interviewed a bunch of derelicts that said it was good. No-one interviewed me!!!  

 

Hj

[aquaman]

On 29/07/2024 at 10:19 AM, Walt said:

Always amuses me when people like yourself try and ridicule the intellect of anyone that has the audacity to see things differently than you. If you're going to take potshots from the shadows about Peters campaigning at least try and avoid making a complete dick of yourself by spelling the word "campaign" incorrectly on multiple occasions. 

I along with many others easily recall NZF being under 3% inside the last two months prior to the 2023 election. Me saying 2% six weeks out in at least two polls was accurate. Even Christopher Luxon wouldn't entertain a possible coalition with him when asked due to NZF being so far off 5% at the time.  

Over the years I've lost count at the number of times alleged experts have adamantly stated the political life of Winston Peters is dead in the water and he is about to be sent packing from Parliament, yet somehow he manages to survive and get back in. Why? Because he sees the damage being done and feels the vibe amongst a lot of New Zealanders. He says and does what those people want to hear and see. Not only does he do that but he times his campaign run so he doesn't go the early crow and burn out or finish strongly but too late. I'm 100% correct when I state nobody in Parliament does that better than Winston Peters. It's irrelevant if you like or dislike him. Facts are always going to be facts.

Peters entered Parliament in 1978 some 46 years ago. He started the NZF party 31 years ago in 1993. He's 79 years old and has managed to be a big player in NZ Politics for many years. He's now Deputy Prime Minister. 

Nobody can continue in politics for ever so at some point he'll have to call it a day. He'll be 81 in 2026 which will be 48 years after he first entered Parliament. You pretending to be Nostradamus about it is comical.

I wouldn't be shocked if he decided to run again in 2026 but if he doesn't or fails to pass the 5% he will have had a very long successful career. 

During the 2023 election campaign he stated female toilets and changing rooms should be a safe place for women and girls. At any other time people would wonder why anyone would need to say that. The fact the inept Chris Hipkins stated Peter's comment was inciting hatred toward the trans community highlighted how batshit crazy things have become. Hipkins was only interested in Virtue Signaling just like Ardern. How did that work out? 

Many people celebrated Peters 2023 election result. It helped get rid of the incompetent Labour Government. He chose to go into a coalition Government with Labour in 2017 which he later deeply regretted so it was fitting that he play an important role in getting rid of them in 2023. 

Your statement about Peters be an imbecile says nothing about him but does reflect on you. If the cap fits......

Let's face it, those that are Ardern and Hipkins sycophant's invariably also hate Winston Peters and Donald Trump. I applaud Trump. He's the most stand up Politician in the United States or anywhere else for that matter. That will mean nothing to you or the alphabet community, or those that believe Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the second coming or pro Palestine / Hamas groups are mothers milk. It does however mean a lot to everyone watching how divided the world has become as we lurch toward the inevitable commencement of major world conflict. A stand up leader of the free world has been missing in action since Biden became POTUS. Big numbers have all seen how badly that has worked out. Just as importantly the enemies of the United States have also seen but don't let the facts get in the way.

For the record, I know many who support Trump but have never heard anyone apart from you describe him as a "stable genius". 

Ever considered you being so left wing and bitter having dramatically clouded your judgement? 

Agree with all the above except the bit about pro Palestine/Hamas groups are mothers milk.

I am and stand with the Palestinian people and their just fight against the Zionist thieving invading settlers that have overrun Palestine since 1948. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter which is how I view Hamas.

This conflict did not start on Oct 7th as they would have you believe, but rather about 75yrs ago when the Palestinian people were forced out with what is known as the Nakba in 1948.

Nobody can justify the genocide that is unfolding before our very eyes as to whats unfolding in Gaza and the West Bank that has a decent heart and moral compass no matter what your politics are. Zionism has become the dominant cult and dogma in Israeli politics, and this is whats driving this maniacal genocide thats being witnessed by a silent West. Just my view Walt, so please don't come back with a novel on why i'm wrong as my stand is firm. Perhaps a little research on a character called Theodor Herzl the founder of the Zionist movement is in order. Cheers.

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, aquaman said:

I am and stand with the Palestinian people and their just fight against the Zionist thieving invading settlers that have overrun Palestine since 1948. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter which is how I view Hamas

Define what IS a Palestinian person.  Your "Palestine" has been ruled by many different groups of people from many countries over nearly 4000 years!

[aquaman]

17 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Define what IS a Palestinian person.  Your "Palestine" has been ruled by many different groups of people from many countries over nearly 4000 years!

The best definition I can think of would be Jesus Christ, born a Palestinian Jew in Bethlehem whose second greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as oneself, not I might add to bomb the crap out women , children, old people, hospitals, schools, places of worship and everything in between.

[Chief Stipe]

6 hours ago, aquaman said:

The best definition I can think of would be Jesus Christ, born a Palestinian Jew in Bethlehem whose second greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as oneself, not I might add to bomb the crap out women , children, old people, hospitals, schools, places of worship and everything in between.

So Palestine and Palestinians are artificial constructs that doesn't actually have any foundation?

As for bombing the crap out of people I gather you apply a different test to Hamas?  I guess you don't adhere to Matthew 26, 26:52 "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

 

[Chief Stipe]

In my view the best option for Palestine would be for Israel to take it over completely and manage it as an Israeli State.  Hamas control the country currently - if they wanted peace why did they attack Israel 7 October 2023?