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Prominent Canterbury Owner Calls For ALL Polytrack Racing To Cease in NZ


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8 minutes ago, curious said:

No it doesn't and if you look at your PMs, you'll see that I've asked you about that on more than one occasion but not got an answer :) Though they may have been posted simultaneously in this case?

You had issues with your TAB account not refreshing as well.  I don't have the problem with BOAY however there can be a minute or so delay to refreshing.  I'll adjust it again.

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12 minutes ago, Freda said:

Which tells us what, exactly?

It tells us that the fatality rate at Cambridge is .52 but the overall synthetic fatality rate is .81 which suggests that Colin is right and that the Riccarton and/or Awapuni tracks are much less safe as reported by NZTR at the roadshows. It also tells us that the topfill is supposed to be 150mms across the track at all 3 tracks which it clearly is not at Riccarton.

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Just now, Chief Stipe said:

You had issues with your TAB account not refreshing as well.  I don't have the problem with BOAY however there can be a minute or so delay to refreshing.  I'll adjust it again.

Mine never refreshes unless I do so manually.

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11 minutes ago, curious said:

It tells us that the fatality rate at Cambridge is .52 but the overall synthetic fatality rate is .81 which suggests that Colin is right and that the Riccarton and/or Awapuni tracks are much less safe as reported by NZTR at the roadshows. It also tells us that the topfill is supposed to be 150mms across the track at all 3 tracks which it clearly is not at Riccarton.

Yep the report certainly vindicates Colin.  Won't the rate be significantly higher than 0.81 at Riccarton as the numbers running there have been considerably less than Cambridge?

That said the figures don't look right to me and their accuracy is totally dependent on accurate reporting.  Is a fatality an ontrack fatality only or does it include fatalities that occurred off-track post on-track activity as well?

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5 hours ago, JJ Flash said:

Another high quality post from Huey. And you wonder why you got red carded elsewhere. Keep the stalking up though even if its becoming very obvious every time i post on here.

You're not good enough to get a stalker Fairy Flash! 

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12 minutes ago, Murray Fish said:

dear one ask why? 

So! the fat lady has sung?  we can put up the W?

Did, will this make the mainstream media? 

It could do if the likes of the SPCA and other animal welfare organisations become involved. As of today, he had no reply from authorities according to a facebook post. It's only a W if and when the tracks get fixed.

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13 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I see NZTR in their report said they are subsidising the track maintenance.  They don't do that for many tracks do they?

So there aren't really any excuses unless of course the subsidy is being spent somewhere else.

Unless the subsidy is still insufficient to complete the necessary maintenance.

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1 hour ago, curious said:

It could do if the likes of the SPCA and other animal welfare organisations become involved.

I am always interested to see how anyone approaches a H&S a problem like this workplace problem.  My starting point would be to approach the coalface workers, especially so in this instant! I've always found most track workers are happy to share their problems and joys!  

To 'use' Facebook and claim you are not going 'public' is a tad naïve.  Ripe for plenty of unbidden...

1 hour ago, curious said:

no reply from authorities according to a facebook post

Sigh, not really surprising, historically  'Head Office' would use Procedural Politics more the Vatican in dealing with mavericks like Colon.  Of course, that can lead to unbidden.. :)

1 hour ago, curious said:

It's only a W if and when the tracks get fixed.

Yip, and anther thing to add to that long list of mistakes 'that we have learned from'.

Almost quite sad that it actually has come to this, so early in the lives of these track!

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On 24/09/2024 at 10:45 AM, JJ Flash said:

I wonder who is in Canterbury given he said he has horses in training in Canterbury?

 

20 hours ago, JJ Flash said:

Because he made a stupid post, a bit like many of yours , im loving the hypocrisy though.

Once again , simpleton , i merely asked who was training for him now in Canterbury. Pam says she's not and she trained his best one that was sold to HKG.

Anyways , good luck to him with Meritable  and his 70 ,horses. Provides NZ punters and breeders with numerous opportunities to make $$$

Well I may very well be a simpleton but all you need to do is pick up a Raceform or if you are capable look at the online full form and you'll easily find who trains Wightmans horses.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

has 4 going around at Riccarton on Saturday

He must be due another decent one, it's been a while...    I actually have some nice photo of Colons best one, that long ago CW was still wearing shorts when leading the horse back to scale! Gee,  I recall way back then, there were problems, around the mistakes in that years Free Handicap for that season.

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13 hours ago, curious said:

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There is a number of issues with that letter.  Why the focus on Awapuni?  No mention of Riccarton.

The paragraph:

The RIB Stewards have officiated at all race and trial meetings held on the Awapuni synthetic surface and I am advised that from their observations the track has generally met performance expectations.

What do they mean by "generally"?  A bit vague isn't it?  Have they walked the tracks and inspected them at any time prior to races and trials?

The other paragraph that raises an eyebrow:

...the principal responsibility for the maintenance and preparation of the track rests with respective racing clubs, while New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) has the responsibility to monitor track performance, collect data and work with clubs on maintenance strategies to enhance track performance.

Duck shove pass the buck?  NZTR are helping to fund the maintenance.  You would think they were be across how that was being spent.  KPI's?  This paragraph and the letter in general focuses on "performance" - isn't the issue "safety"?

It all seems a bit slack to me.

Blame Accuse GIF

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Being on course at Hastings yesterday from a very early hour - the fog and frost were still visible. 

I didn't see any suits inspect the track at any time. 

I doubt there were any penetrometer readings taken or any Stipe walking the track. 

From what I could see no horses galloped on the course proper prior to Race 1. 

There were quite a few horses worked on the inner track surfaces during the morning but none galloped on the grass.

Are these things NOT standard practice?

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