Chief Stipe Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Wingman said: And that view is? It will race a bit fairer as the surface and sub-surface is more consistent across the width of the straight. However that is subject to wear and tear and where they place the rail. They missed a golden opportunity to reshape the course to make it fairer. The home straight entry and exits favour those on the inside. I've hated the exit for decades watching the Derby. They could have fixed that. The camber on the home turn drops away too soon. That's because they didn't realign the 2400m start - again the Derby. You have two options - you either wait for an inside rails run or start moving at the 600m to get handy. I don't care what anyone says the soil (if you could call it that) is basically pure sand. Essentially it is grass growing hydroponically. Which grass isn't suited to do hence the need for continual irrigation and verti-draining/coring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago OK. Thanks for the comprehensive input. There is 3 meetings over 12 days Nov 30th, Dec 7th and then a m/w on 12th and after that we should have a better idea and opinions of the track leading into boxing day/new year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 21 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Friday Morning Weather: Overcast Track: Soft 7 Moisture Meter: 51.4% Rail: True Rainfall: No Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 18mm Last 24 Hours Weather and Track updated at 9.10am Friday 8 November Thursday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Soft 6 Moisture Meter: 42.3% Rail: True Rainfall: No Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 10mm to be applied today Weather and Track updated at 10.53 Thursday 7 November https://loveracing.nz/News/47212/TRACKPREVIEWPukekohePark-Thursday7November.aspx Withdrawal Morning Weather: Fine Track: Soft 7 Moisture Meter: 50.9% Rail: True Rainfall: No Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 12mm Irrigation Applied Over Weekend Weather and Track updated at 8.55am Wednesday 6 November Nomination Morning Weather: Overcast Track: Heavy 8 Moisture Meter: 51.8% Rail: True Rainfall: 1mm Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 12mm Irrigation Applied Over Weekend Weather and Track updated at 9.12am Tuesday 5 November Hmmm. Still a S6 this morning. Race Day Weather: Overcast Track: Soft 6 Moisture Meter: 50.1% Rail: True Rainfall: No Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: N/A Weather and Track updated at 6.57am Saturday 9 November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, curious said: Hmmm. Still a S6 this morning. Race Day Weather: Overcast Track: Soft 6 Moisture Meter: 50.1% Rail: True Rainfall: No Rain Last 24 Hours | 9mm Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: N/A Weather and Track updated at 6.57am Saturday 9 November Eh? When did they last calibrate their moisture meter? Nomination Morning Heavy 8 51.8% Withdrawal Morning Soft 7 50.9% Thursday Morning Soft 6 42.3% Friday Morning Soft 7 51.4% Raceday Soft 6 50.1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago No penetrometer reading. Have Clubs been advised to do away with this measure? Thinking about the moisture meter variation - wouldn't you have to take readings from the same spots for it to be accurate? Unlike the penetrometer the moisture meter would be influenced more by localised soil structure. On the flip side it is more likely to be affected by uneven irrigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Meanwhile at Flemington: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Eh? When did they last calibrate their moisture meter? Nomination Morning Heavy 8 51.8% Withdrawal Morning Soft 7 50.9% Thursday Morning Soft 6 42.3% Friday Morning Soft 7 51.4% Raceday Soft 6 50.1% I wonder how saline their irrigation water is. In my experience, salt completely buggers up moisture meter readings. Those are all over the place but if they just guess the track readings or report what they want to, then it could be those not the moisture readings that are out of whack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 53 minutes ago, curious said: I wonder how saline their irrigation water is. In my experience, salt completely buggers up moisture meter readings. Those are all over the place but if they just guess the track readings or report what they want to, then it could be those not the moisture readings that are out of whack. Very good point about the saline. Do nitrate levels affect it as well? I suspect the Rating might be one point out which seems to be common for most track reports that we get. In the absence of penetrometer or Going Stick readings I can't see how the Track ratings can be anything but finger in the ground subjective guesses. So expect to see a one point upgrade after race one taking it to a Soft 5. Then a one point upgrade after race two - G4. Then a retrospective upgrade of another point in the Stewards report - G3. Everything will be a recommended G4 improving to a G3 by mid-afternoon. Which means it will probably end up a G2. The big question is - where is the fast lane and who knows where it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Well got that wrong. If anything the track might be a Soft 7!!! Doesn't look as warm as forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago and son Pitman suggest too much water put on track on thurs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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