Bosson sacked from Te Akau contract??

[Thomass]

A very pointed comment from Guerin last week

"I've heard Bosson could be more open to other rides from other stables in future"

Coded 'SACKED'

Afterall THE Premier stable contracting someone that doesn't align to their beliefs perhaps?

You know the rest

I'm betting the final 2 G1's to the hundy will NOT be on a TA trained horse

[Chief Stipe]

Or simply he is unable to ride at 55kg.

[Huey]

16 hours ago, Thomass said:

A very pointed comment from Guerin last week

"I've heard Bosson could be more open to other rides from other stables in future"

Coded 'SACKED'

Afterall THE Premier stable contracting someone that doesn't align to their beliefs perhaps?

You know the rest

I'm betting the final 2 G1's to the hundy will NOT be on a TA trained horse

Doesn't align to their beliefs is a funny way of putting isn't or can't win races for them, where is all the Opie is the best in the business spewed forth after every win in the Tangerine over the past decade or more?

[Chief Stipe]

Still one of the best Jockeys.

Current strike rate 4.15 which is the best by a long margin.

Just an issue with weight and so limited in what he can ride.

[Chief Stipe]

I see he rode quite a few yesterday for Te Akau.

https://www.teakauracing.com/news/te-akau-ni-tuesday-trackwork-1

If there has been a change in his contract then it would be a business decision based on the fact that at Opies current weight there aren't many horses he can race ride for Te Akau with the demographic of the horse team shifting to the younger horses.

Opie is still first call for track work when the TA trainers are looking for extra insight on how a particular horse is going.

[Thomass]

3 hours ago, Huey said:

Doesn't align to their beliefs is a funny way of putting isn't or can't win races for them, where is all the Opie is the best in the business spewed forth after every win in the Tangerine over the past decade or more?

I guess it's about 'branding' in the end

Does brand ALL BLACK want drunken wingers smashing into garages damaging the 'brand' as well as the garage...sending the owner into a mental meltdown??

Would brand Te Akau choose staff with good family values to align with their 'clean' professional image rather than 'tother'?

Will BGP keep chanting their hero's name on Karaka night for example, knowing their 'women' members are few and far between?

[Huey]

1 hour ago, Thomass said:

I guess it's about 'branding' in the end

Does brand ALL BLACK want drunken wingers smashing into garages damaging the 'brand' as well as the garage...sending the owner into a mental meltdown??

Would brand Te Akau choose staff with good family values to align with their 'clean' professional image rather than 'tother'?

Will BGP keep chanting their hero's name on Karaka night for example, knowing their 'women' members are few and far between?

They wouldn't give a stuff about his values, so long as he is churning out the winners , the sport is littered with example after example of this.

[Chief Stipe]

@Thomass you are posting rubbish and are crossing the BOAY line again.  Your inference fails all tests. 

Opie road trackwork yesterday for Te Akau. 

He has high weight rides at Trentham this Saturday 7 December 2024 for:

Stephen March - 61.5kg,

Bill Thurlow - 58.5kg and 60kg and wait for it..........

Te Akau riding at 60.5kg.   

So @Thomass essentially you are full of crap!

[Chief Stipe]

Just now, Huey said:

They wouldn't give a stuff about his values, so long as he is churning out the winners , the sport is littered with example after example of this.

Yes and if you had the choice and if Opie could get the weight you have him riding your horse.  You'd be a fool not to have the best strike rate Jockey in NZ on your horse.

[Huey]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yes and if you had the choice and if Opie could get the weight you have him riding your horse.  You'd be a fool not to have the best strike rate Jockey in NZ on your horse.

Could not agree more , he is the best.

[Bloke]

8 hours ago, Thomass said:

I guess it's about 'branding' in the end

Does brand ALL BLACK want drunken wingers smashing into garages damaging the 'brand' as well as the garage...sending the owner into a mental meltdown??

Would brand Te Akau choose staff with good family values to align with their 'clean' professional image rather than 'tother'?

Will BGP keep chanting their hero's name on Karaka night for example, knowing their 'women' members are few and far between?

Judged on history I do not see much in the way of evidence of NZ Rugby taking action given the history of the said winger and for that matter many others. Rugby has a history of giving character references for players so that they are not convicted.

 

[Bloke]

On 4/12/2024 at 11:39 AM, Chief Stipe said:

Yes and if you had the choice and if Opie could get the weight you have him riding your horse.  You'd be a fool not to have the best strike rate Jockey in NZ on your horse.

Yes, and with Opie being on Ladies Man, it was the omen bet

[Thomass]

On 4/12/2024 at 9:14 AM, Chief Stipe said:

I see he rode quite a few yesterday for Te Akau.

https://www.teakauracing.com/news/te-akau-ni-tuesday-trackwork-1

If there has been a change in his contract then it would be a business decision based on the fact that at Opies current weight there aren't many horses he can race ride for Te Akau with the demographic of the horse team shifting to the younger horses.

Opie is still first call for track work when the TA trainers are looking for extra insight on how a particular horse is going.

Guerin

"But this time it got so serious, his role as retained jockey for Te Akau ended, with a business of that size needing jockeys when they require them, not when they are available.

So, Bosson is technically freelance for the first time in years"

Nothing to do with weight... everything to do with 'lifestyle' and whims/whams

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Thomass

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Thomass said:

Guerin

"But this time it got so serious, his role as retained jockey for Te Akau ended, with a business of that size needing jockeys when they require them, not when they are available.

So, Bosson is technically freelance for the first time in years"

Nothing to do with weight... everything to do with 'lifestyle' and whims/whams

 

More fiction and now it contradicts your original fiction.

The biggest factor is Opie can't get the lower weights.  

He'll still be riding Track Work for T's Akau tomorrow and Thursday.

[Thomass]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

More fiction and now it contradicts your original fiction.

The biggest factor is Opie can't get the lower weights.  

He'll still be riding Track Work for T's Akau tomorrow and Thursday.

Can't you read?

"contract ended"

Coded SACKED

When one CANT hold up their end...one gets SACKED from the other end

Couldn't be relied on when required NOT when available on his terms

Your "change in his contract" on his NO contract is extinct

Like the dead parrot 

Squawk on though

Edited December 9, 2024 by Thomass

[Chief Stipe]

40 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Can't you read?

"contract ended"

Coded SACKED

When one CANT hold up their end...one gets SACKED from the other end

Couldn't be relied on when required NOT when available on his terms

Your "change in his contract" on his NO contract is extinct

Like the dead parrot 

Squawk on though

F#@k off.  You talk some crap.

It's a weight issue pure and simple.

But you keep up your BS hypocrisy.  BTW are you that desperate for attention that you make things up?

[Chief Stipe]

@Thomass I see you don't post any of this crap on your X account.  How many have signed up to Downes Tips?  2?  You and your dog?

[Murray Fish]

3 hours ago, Thomass said:

everything to do with 'lifestyle'

 

sigh, and What a Struggle it can be for  So many jockeys!  And its on record OB  has always needed massive vigilance to simply be able to turn up to the jockeys room! Little alone being able to ride 99 G1's   Vulgar of you to be commenting, especially if you Actually know the struggles of serious food restrictions!  Please, shouldn't his private life be that! Especially so as Children are involved!  And wank talk can sit parked for a long time...

[Jim Green]

Surely $$$ has something to do with it too.

What would a stable jockey get paid as a retainer? A jockey of Opies quality wouldn't be cheap?

Te Akau wouldn't have any trouble getting the best riders in the country/Australia to ride their horses so why bother paying a retainer.

I wouldn't think many jockeys would say no when they are asked to ride for the leading stable.

Opie will have more freedom to ride what he pleases I'd imagine so it looks like a win win to me.

Or do we see Wiremu Pinn taking over as stable rider? 

Off topic but where are all the karaka million 2yos? Do we see the Tangerine army step out at Te Rapa on saturday? May be worth the drive to watch a great days racing. Take your young ones too,nothing beats a day at the races during summer. Standing up close to the rail is brilliant and makes you appreciate the power of the horse and the skill of the jockeys. Do it in winter and you find out how brave or mad the jumping jockey are.

Think my weekend is sorted. Any tips? A good day on the punt and I'll convince the rest of the travelling party racing should be our weekly outing

[Thomass]

5 hours ago, Murray Fish said:

 

sigh, and What a Struggle it can be for  So many jockeys!  And its on record OB  has always needed massive vigilance to simply be able to turn up to the jockeys room! Little alone being able to ride 99 G1's   Vulgar of you to be commenting, especially if you Actually know the struggles of serious food restrictions!  Please, shouldn't his private life be that! Especially so as Children are involved!  And wank talk can sit parked for a long time...

'Lifestyle'= style of life

Many employment contracts include 'morality' clauses

An organisation like TA work hard to maintain high standards and someone under contract acts in a manner contrary to those high standards

For example many organisations include forbidding work place relationships as part of a 'morality' clause

Bosson's latest wrap sheet for carelessness said

"Mr Bosson’s record is troubling for a senior, very experienced and prominent Rider. It has to be taken into account also, as aggravating.  He did not contend, or seek, any discount for admitting the breach and in any event, none would have been granted, as any defence would have been futile, and he did not express any remorse or contrition"

In knocking out the chances of 2 horses he showed reckless disregard for his fellow riders

TA shouldn't have to put up with that nonsense..and they didn't

 

[Chief Stipe]

6 hours ago, Thomass said:

Bosson's latest wrap sheet for carelessness said

"Mr Bosson’s record is troubling for a senior, very experienced and prominent Rider. It has to be taken into account also, as aggravating.  He did not contend, or seek, any discount for admitting the breach and in any event, none would have been granted, as any defence would have been futile, and he did not express any remorse or contrition"

In knocking out the chances of 2 horses he showed reckless disregard for his fellow riders

What date was this suspension? For all we know you made this up.

Hypocrite.  One minute you are criticsing the stipes for inaccuracy then when it suits you quote something out of context.

Why the focus on Opie Bosson.  Work through  this list as well.  

Suspended Riders:

 

Matt Cartwright | From close of racing Saturday 14 December to close of racing on Friday 20 December (Suspended @ Te Aroha R6 08-12)

 

Rihaan Goyaram | From close of racing Friday 13 December to close of racing on Sunday 22 December (Suspended @ Te Aroha R6 08-12)

 

Lynsey Satherley | From close of racing Saturday 14 December to close of racing on Friday 20 December (Suspended @ Ellerslie R6 07-12)

 

Brandon May | From close of racing Saturday 7 December to close of racing on Saturday 14 December (Suspended @ Cromwell R3 01-12)

 

George Rooke | From close of racing Saturday 7 December to close of racing Friday 13 December (Suspended ATR @ Ellerslie R6 30-11-2024)

 

Michael McNab | From close of racing Saturday 7 December to close of racing Friday 13 December (Suspended ATR @ Ellerslie R2 30-11-2024)

 

Harry Grace | From close of racing Saturday 7 December to close of racing Sunday 15 December (Suspended Wanganui JC R6 30-11-2024)

 

Ruvanesh Muniandy | From the close of racing Monday 2 December until the close of racing Wednesday 11 December (Suspended @ Winton R2 24-11)

 

Kavish Chowdhoory | From the close of racing Friday 29 November until the close of racing Thursday 19 December (Suspended @ Wanganui R1 23-11)

 

Sam Wynne | From the close of racing Friday 22 November until the close of racing Thursday 12 December (Suspended @ Riccarton R9 & R10 16-11)

 

Kevin Stott | From the close of racing Saturday 23 November until the close of racing Saturday 14 December (Suspended @ Te Aroha R7 12-11)

 

Kelly Myers | From the close of racing Saturday 23 November until the close of racing Wednesday 11 December (Suspended @ Riccarton R9 13-11 & Riccarton R10 16-11 )

 

Matthew Cameron | From close of racing 14 August 2024 to close of racing 13 May 2025 (Disqualified)

[Chief Stipe]

6 hours ago, Thomass said:

'Lifestyle'= style of life

Many employment contracts include 'morality' clauses

Hypocrite.

[Thomass]

it was his last CR charge BEFORE he had his contract terminated

Te Akau tolerating a contracted employee "without remorse or contrition" in a highly dangerous occupation is an extremely bad look

[Chief Stipe]

2 hours ago, Thomass said:

it was his last CR charge BEFORE he had his contract terminated

Te Akau tolerating a contracted employee "without remorse or contrition" in a highly dangerous occupation is an extremely bad look

Really you do write some BS.  Normally you would be all over a RIB decision like this with all its inconsistencies but you are intent on Te Akau and Bosson bashing.  Bosson pleaded guilty.  Isn't that enough?  However you and the Stipes appear to want him to take the knee.  He offered a reason why it occurred - Mr Bosson said his mount was “green” and twice “ducked away” from his use of the whip on its right flank.

https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/waikato-tr-3-october-2024-r3-opie-bosson/

If you look clearly at the head on Stipes vision you can clearly see the horse ducked in when whipped.  I'm surprised Bosson didn't defend the charge however as you have pointed out many times @Thomass defending a charge usually results in a bigger penalty.  Like many riders and drivers I'm sure  Bosson was resigned to the fact he was going to be found guilty, tried to mitigate the penalty by pleading guilty and couldn't bring himself to grovel for something he had little control over i.e. a horse ducking in away from the whip.

 

 

[Freda]

Of course, I have to ask, why did a jockey of Bosson's class wait for a horse to 'twice duck away from the whip'  instead of immediately swapping the stick over to keep it straight?