hesi Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1. Messara Report 2. Race fixing charges 3. Te Akau Shark 4. Race meeting abandonments 5. Emergence of Jamie Richards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) The most notable thing for me was the emergence of BGP at Karaka Millions in January the energy and atmosphere the group brought to the track......NZ racing is dead this group is unique they were a breath of fresh air NZ racing now need to capitalise on this unique situation and somehow introduce other teams and create a league similar to the Big Bash 10 teams of 5 have the media involved call it the sport of kings league where these punting teams go head to head at the tracks if each team spent 50k they would have a turnover of 500k Racing needs atmosphere they need to attract young people to the sport they need these people to understand by forming a syndicate you can afford to become an owner once you do this you will have a domino effect they will open a TAB account Racing in NZ can’t create a Everest a Melbourne Cup Winx atmosphere they need to create their own unique way which they can showcase racing to the NZ public Its time to take on BGP grow what they have created and showcase it to the NZ public create a racing league have them at the track give it that T20 atmosphere show them racing is the coolest sport to be involved in the whole country Edited December 12, 2018 by VC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Diceman's Been Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1) I was genuinely shocked when Felaar didn't win the Cup, given the hype and expectation from the ownership group. Sir Pete and Swampy Marsh were incredibly bullish, in their confidence of winning the race......in fact it was getting a tad hysterical at one stage. Thankfully, the third owner kept a level head and both feet firmly planted on the ground. Never mind, how sad, for my wallet. I wouldn't mind owning him though. Looks a promising type. 2) The rise of the syndication groups in NZ continues to surprise. Why would anyone want to own a race horse, given the disgraceful stakes on offer you may well ask. Te Akau, Go Racing and the beautiful Bylie Kax have all had well deserved success with first time owners involved in winning significant races. Well done to them. 3) Slamming Sammy Weatherley continued his cast iron certain rise to the top of the Sydney Jockey ranks. He initially learnt heaps from Sir Lancelot (I hope he's forgotten the bit about water troughs in spelling paddocks), and has grown another leg under Winx Waller. Get out to Ellerslie today or make sure you you watch all six races on Trackside ( put the mute on except when Georgie does the call) and see for yourself what giant strides the young fella has taken. We already have a plethora of mighty Kiwi Midgets flying the flag in Oz. Macca, Mickey, Jason, Damien and a heap more to boot, but Slamming Sammy is heading straight to the top. Funny how he got involved in racing in the first place, given his Mum and Dad and grand parents are a not into it, apparantly. 4) Is there a bigger bunch of soft cocks in racing than the NZ TAB bookmakers? Seriously, ladies, put your big girl's pants on and start offering odds that will attract genuine punters back to your organisation. Is it any wonder that most of us have at least one off shore account? 2018 has seen a further decline in your overall capability to create an urge to bet with you. 5) Whisky Whinney Peters is taking the piss, surely, in his hollow and contrived ministerial manner. The guy has no genuine desire to fix NZ Racing. He is a trougher, in fact his nose is so far up the arse of those who shower him with gifts and booze, he lost his ability to think for himself. There is only one way this industry is getting out of the shit it has put itself in. Shut down for six months, just like NSW did a few years back, sure, for different reasons, but look how strong they came back under a leadership that had balls, and a supporting government that loves the tax that wagering generates. Far fetched - I don't believe so. SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, The Diceman's Been said: 1) I was genuinely shocked when Felaar didn't win the Cup, given the hype and expectation from the ownership group. Sir Pete and Swampy Marsh were incredibly bullish, in their confidence of winning the race......in fact it was getting a tad hysterical at one stage. Thankfully, the third owner kept a level head and both feet firmly planted on the ground. Never mind, how sad, for my wallet. I wouldn't mind owning him though. Looks a promising type. 2) The rise of the syndication groups in NZ continues to surprise. Why would anyone want to own a race horse, given the disgraceful stakes on offer you may well ask. Te Akau, Go Racing and the beautiful Bylie Kax have all had well deserved success with first time owners involved in winning significant races. Well done to them. 3) Slamming Sammy Weatherley continued his cast iron certain rise to the top of the Sydney Jockey ranks. He initially learnt heaps from Sir Lancelot (I hope he's forgotten the bit about water troughs in spelling paddocks), and has grown another leg under Winx Waller. Get out to Ellerslie today or make sure you you watch all six races on Trackside ( put the mute on except when Georgie does the call) and see for yourself what giant strides the young fella has taken. We already have a plethora of mighty Kiwi Midgets flying the flag in Oz. Macca, Mickey, Jason, Damien and a heap more to boot, but Slamming Sammy is heading straight to the top. Funny how he got involved in racing in the first place, given his Mum and Dad and grand parents are a not into it, apparantly. 4) Is there a bigger bunch of soft cocks in racing than the NZ TAB bookmakers? Seriously, ladies, put your big girl's pants on and start offering odds that will attract genuine punters back to your organisation. Is it any wonder that most of us have at least one off shore account? 2018 has seen a further decline in your overall capability to create an urge to bet with you. 5) Whisky Whinney Peters is taking the piss, surely, in his hollow and contrived ministerial manner. The guy has no genuine desire to fix NZ Racing. He is a trougher, in fact his nose is so far up the arse of those who shower him with gifts and booze, he lost his ability to think for himself. There is only one way this industry is getting out of the shit it has put itself in. Shut down for six months, just like NSW did a few years back, sure, for different reasons, but look how strong they came back under a leadership that had balls, and a supporting government that loves the tax that wagering generates. Far fetched - I don't believe so. SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE Nice summation Diceman. One small correction though, Sam Weatherley's father Darryn and grandfather Dan were both jockeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Thanks Pete Appreciate it. King Coleman told me Darryn was a property developer and Louise was a bean counting comptroller and both are devout Seventh Day Adventists which precluded them from active participation in equine pursuits. How gullible am I? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIME FOR CHANGE Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 16 hours ago, hesi said: 1. Messara Report 2. Race fixing charges 3. Te Akau Shark 4. Race meeting abandonments 5. Emergence of Jamie Richards Predictions for 2019 1 Messara Report still in limbo 2 Race Fixing charges still not in front of Court maybe 2020 3 Te Akau Shark gets arse kicked in Sydney 4 No race meetings cancelled 5 Jamie Richards replaced as Trainer at Te Akau A bit tongue in cheek !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 6:17 AM, curious said: Thommo's BP? Can you stop hijacking threads. That shrew Hesi will come down on you hard...which I'm sure you'll hate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 1:20 AM, VC! said: The most notable thing for me was the emergence of BGP at Karaka Millions in January the energy and atmosphere the group brought to the track......NZ racing is dead this group is unique they were a breath of fresh air NZ racing now need to capitalise on this unique situation and somehow introduce other teams and create a league similar to the Big Bash 10 teams of 5 have the media involved call it the sport of kings league where these punting teams go head to head at the tracks if each team spent 50k they would have a turnover of 500k Racing needs atmosphere they need to attract young people to the sport they need these people to understand by forming a syndicate you can afford to become an owner once you do this you will have a domino effect they will open a TAB account Racing in NZ can’t create a Everest a Melbourne Cup Winx atmosphere they need to create their own unique way which they can showcase racing to the NZ public Its time to take on BGP grow what they have created and showcase it to the NZ public create a racing league have them at the track give it that T20 atmosphere show them racing is the coolest sport to be involved in the whole country Great thinking...email Bernard.saundry@nztr.co.nz with this... ..he might have enough time to reply...when he gets off Twitter...talking about Aus Harness stuff... ...f me...yea that's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: Can you stop hijacking threads. That shrew Hesi will come down on you hard...which I'm sure you'll hate That's complimentary by comparison Now a half man half bitch I see, on the ex Premier site And he wants his site to be taken seriously, talking such immature rhetoric I'll post a some relative BOAY/RC data next Wed in response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, hesi said: That's complimentary by comparison Now a half man half bitch I see, on the ex Premier site And he wants his site to be taken seriously, talking such immature rhetoric I'll post a some relative BOAY/RC data next Wed in response getting very very tired of this endless 'rivalry' and discussions about RC. Take a cue from Frozen, Hesi, and: Let it go, let it go ... BOAY does not need to be compared with or rated against other sites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 It is important for people who read this site, or people who may be interested in becoming involved, to know where we sit after 9 months, and to know we are not any longer a minor player. Many will have already drawn a positive conclusion about BOAY, but it is still important to put a little bit of data out there to dispel the propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: Great thinking...email Bernard.saundry@nztr.co.nz with this... ..he might have enough time to reply...when he gets off Twitter...talking about Aus Harness stuff... ...f me...yea that's true No need the walking talking Bear is on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Surely for their to be considered an emergence of a trainer at TA they have to start to be regularly competitive in Aus? They just have such high quality bloodstock,control a number of riders and the competition in NZ is thinning out at an accelerating rate , they seem to have a 2yo for just about every race , summed up considering all those factors they are doing what they should be doing considering the firepower they have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The best one involving the RIU was that they can change rules to suit the situation now... The AMAZING deeds of Arron Kuru....while FALLING... ...you know a fall is when the shoulder and hindquarter of a neddy slides along the ground for 50M...then the Jock became unsaddled....but who cares The RIU certainly didn't! Next morning we had Williamson saying "but the (fall) was all in one motion... ...so it's not a fall" Hahahahahahahaha Good use of made up stuff to fit the crime... of....FALLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On 15/12/2018 at 5:59 AM, Huey said: Surely for their to be considered an emergence of a trainer at TA they have to start to be regularly competitive in Aus? They just have such high quality bloodstock,control a number of riders and the competition in NZ is thinning out at an accelerating rate , they seem to have a 2yo for just about every race , summed up considering all those factors they are doing what they should be doing considering the firepower they have. Is being regularly competitive in Australia a new benchmark for TA? I can't recall TA ever being "Regularly Competitive" in Aus! Apart from the 2016/17 season with Gingernuts winning the G1 Rosehill Guineas and Melody Belle winning the G2 2yo race in Brisbane, you actually have to to all the way back to the 2008 Sydney Autumn; when Princess Coup placed in Stakes races. That would have been the last TA trained horse to be competitive in Australia. That's a long time between stakes performances in Australia! Melody Belle, TA Shark and TA's current 2 and 3yo team still have Autridge's polish and education, so I would suggest that a better measure of J Richard's success as a trainer will be with the result of TA's 2 and 3yo team in the 2019/20 season. Edited December 17, 2018 by Brando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Brando said: Is being regularly competitive in Australia a new benchmark for TA? I can't recall TA ever being "Regularly Competitive" in Aus! I'd say its the benchmark for that stable considering the factors I've already mentioned. There are only 2 or 3 stables in the country with the bloodstock to compete with them probably 30-50 in Aus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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