Thomass Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Not only a farcical race but farcically run as well! So NZTR/ATR got together and 'arranged' this farce apparently If O needed the race so badly just arrange a trial/hard hit out just like the soft az racel it turned out to be Australian Stewards would've been all over this 'Gryllsy, why didn't you kick up at the 800M when you were 3 lengths directly behind the leader on a very soft pace FFS" Gryllsy 'I was told to just give her an easy un for a next up effort...after all I'm not going to f up the 'set up' in case I get the drag for the REAL race coming up" If NZTR/ATR can waste 65K precious prize money like this they deserve everything that's going to come to them when this largesse is over Edited 7 hours ago by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Thomass said: 'Gryllsy, why didn't you kick up at the 800M when you were 3 lengths directly behind the leader on a very soft pace FFS" What would that have achieved? He wouldn't have got under the leader until well up the straight and the leader was dictating the slow pace. Would have been better in a small field to have pulled back to last and made a run on the home turn and at least made it a longer sprint home for the four of them. 39 minutes ago, Thomass said: Gryllsy 'I was told to just give her an easy un for a next up effort...after all I'm not going to f up the 'set up' in case I get the drag for the REAL race coming up" Seeing the Roger James interview after the race I think he was genuinely disappointed in the effort and he was searching for something positive to say or rather excuses. But as you know @Thomass weight stops trains and the 60kg is a fair amount of lead to cart around! 42 minutes ago, Thomass said: If NZTR/ATR can waste 65K precious prize money like this they deserve everything that's going to come to them when this largesse is over Hardly a waste. I'm sure the first two placegetters are very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago A TOTAL waste of industry funds As Lance O'Sullivan used to say " With higher weighted horses, I tried to keep them handy as big weights tended to anchor them down with the resultant lack of acceleration" #whathesaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Thomass said: " With higher weighted horses, I tried to keep them handy as big weights tended to anchor them down with the resultant lack of acceleration" Two lengths off the leader is pretty handy!! In my opinion Grylls should have hooked back and improved wide. But there aren't many doing that at the moment at Ellerslie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago She was THREE lengths off the lead at the 800M Punter's had the ABSOLUTE right to expect Grylls to kick up behind the leader to be handy on the turn... off a slow pace Pulling back would've made it even more impossible from 4/5 lengths behind the leader on the turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Thomass said: She was THREE lengths off the lead at the 800M Punter's had the ABSOLUTE right to expect Grylls to kick up behind the leader to be handy on the turn... off a slow pace Pulling back would've made it even more impossible from 4/5 lengths behind the leader on the turn Uh? So Grylls hunts Orhestral up 2 lengths at the 800m to trail the leader closer. The leader is stacking them in a sit sprint what is Grylls going to do next? Wait for luck while losing momentum? No if he had hooked back and started to go round them at say the 600m at worst he'd be 4 wide but with clear air and will have put the mares staying ability into play. Although obviously not apparent in race 1 in later races the winners were trucking down the centre of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Don't know how you blokes are struggling with this race so much 😎. these gallopers all seem 'very finicky' about what distance they race over . There were 4 nice horses racing over 1400m. At 1400m Orchestral 2 starts for just one x 2nd placing, Shamus with 8 starts for 4 wins, Acquarello 4 starts for a win and a 2nd, Pour the Wine 2 starts for one x 2nd placing at 1400. Shamus all day looks the winner then . get ya money on. looks a special 💰. 🏇😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: But as you know @Thomass weight stops trains and the 60kg is a fair amount of lead to cart around! ORCHESTRAL (C Grylls) - Slow to begin. When questioned, the rider advised that the mare had been unsuited by the pace of the race and that he had been satisfied with the performance. Underwent a post-race veterinary examination which did not reveal any abnormality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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