Champions day crowd.

[Newmarket]

54 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

Wow ...this story is AMAZING !

Te Akau seem to enjoy racing horses in South and I'd say one of their great strengths is they place their horses well where success is most likely.

But what a CRIME ......on the syndicate you know of.

You are a tosser, need to read properly. 
 

Duh, I know Te Akau race plenty to n the Sth Island. My point being is they have huge control in these syndicates, if they no longer want to race a horse, even though the syndicate members may want to try racing elsewhere, it may not be the case. Not dogging the stable, is what is. Just stating that syndicates seem to have issues, with all stables.

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, Newmarket said:

One syndicate I know of wanted to race a horse down south rather than see it beaten up north each start…. wouldn’t allow another trainer to race it, so no bad luck. Those involved were peeved….

Did they have any more experience than the Te Akau trainers?

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Thats why you don’t see any Te Akau runners changing stable, wouldn’t want someone improving it! 

Wrong.

4 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Apart from the top owners, rest are just a number

Wrong again.  

[Newmarket]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Did they have any more experience than the Te Akau trainers?

Well they didn’t get that far looking when told no. 
Look I don’t want to stir the  pot here, as we all know sometimes we are not told the 100% truth, although I do believe the people involved. 
No worries if you want to remove my posts, don’t want people jumping up and down. 
 

One reason I would never go into a syndicate with a big harness or gallops stable, that so so many involved, you have no say in anything. 

[Newmarket]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Wrong.

Wrong again.  

What are the horses? With so many horses in their stables, you should be able to name a heap of them?

[Chief Stipe]

32 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

You are a tosser, need to read properly. 
 

Duh, I know Te Akau race plenty to n the Sth Island. My point being is they have huge control in these syndicates, if they no longer want to race a horse, even though the syndicate members may want to try racing elsewhere, it may not be the case. Not dogging the stable, is what is. Just stating that syndicates seem to have issues, with all stables.

Get any large group of people together and you have differences of opinion.  However when you sign up to any syndicate contract the terms and conditions are clear.  If you don't like that then buy and race a horse 100% on your own.

[Chief Stipe]

19 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Look I don’t want to stir the  pot here, as we all know sometimes we are not told the 100% truth, although I do believe the people involved. 

Yes and I've met people who were syndicate owners who feel disenfranchised.  I've listened to many of these types of people and invariably there view is based on ignorance.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Will this leave Te Akau vulnerable in NZ now ? with the head Trainer now going to Victoria ?

Sam Bergerson and Nicole Shailer are as good as any and both have top pedigrees.

[Newmarket]

Just now, Chief Stipe said:

Yes and I've met people who were syndicate owners who feel disenfranchised.  I've listened to many of these types of people and invariably there view is based on ignorance.

Oh well, let’s leave it at that, I’m wrong and i apologise. Very strange that apart from yourself, nobody has added positive comments about the stable…. Well Tab4ever of course, but that’s a given 
 

 

[Chief Stipe]

Just now, Newmarket said:

Oh well, let’s leave it at that, I’m wrong and i apologise. Very strange that apart from yourself, nobody has added positive comments about the stable…. Well Tab4ever of course, but that’s a given 
 

 

No you have an opinion and that's OK.  

I've recently had the good fortune to be close to someone who has owned their first horse with Te Akau.  They have been very very lucky winning a number of Group races as well as a Group 1.  I've been privy to all the communications between Te Akau and that person.  I've been impressed.

I've seen the contract and indeed have explained to that person what the small print means.  

I've also had the experience of meeting past syndicate owners from other horses who have the pip with Te Akau for reasons that I can only put down to unrealistic expectations and denial about what they signed up to.  

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Very strange that apart from yourself, nobody has added positive comments about the stable….

That's because unfortunately envy winds its way through all parts of the industry.  New Zealanders are quicker to cut the tall poppy down than applaud their success.  

[TAB For Ever]

2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

don't forget Cranbourne TABman.

they recently finished the upgrade from 20 stalls to an incredible 70 .  that's a lot of Bloodstock to manage daily.

So Mark Walker has to come over now himself,  and manage that lot himself , as Gleeson (assistant) was just doing the 20 horses. Did a great job with Imperatriz at the time though. 

Will this leave Te Akau vulnerable in NZ now ? with the head Trainer now going to Victoria ?

10.15pm....just back to the TV and they winning a race ,ridden by Blake Shinn !

[TAB For Ever]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

You are a tosser, need to read properly. 
 

Duh, I know Te Akau race plenty to n the Sth Island. My point being is they have huge control in these syndicates, if they no longer want to race a horse, even though the syndicate members may want to try racing elsewhere, it may not be the case. Not dogging the stable, is what is. Just stating that syndicates seem to have issues, with all stables.

I prefer tosser to gossip.......

Best you apologise and cease your unfounded rumours and maybe look at the way syndicates work.....unusual for an outfit to Syndicate horses based on their trusted brand in training and management of horses then send it to a rival stable.

Personally been in several big syndicates and there always folk with vastly different views to the Manager/Trainer and these folk are often the smallest shareholder. Syndicates have rules which include ways different views can be voiced ...I'd guess many of their syndicates have between 20 and 40 shareholders.

[TAB For Ever]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

What are the horses? With so many horses in their stables, you should be able to name a heap of them?

Little point in engaging with a gossip , but some of the horses they have trained have been moved on re sale on Gavelhouse and even tho they still train a few jumpers they have encouraged a change of stable for them !

[TAB For Ever]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

Oh well, let’s leave it at that, I’m wrong and i apologise. Very strange that apart from yourself, nobody has added positive comments about the stable…. Well Tab4ever of course, but that’s a given 
 

 

Your best post......apologise and move on !

As stated earlier the rules of Syndicates are clear and upfront.....many folk take a maximum of 10% with the majority between 1% and 5%.

If you want to have control over the management of a horse buy 51% or more.....many syndicates have 40 to 70 shareholders and now there are horses with hundreds of Owners .

[Gammalite]

22 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

10.15pm....just back to the TV and they winning a race ,ridden by Blake Shinn !

That's an Aussie Kheir one as well I see in the famous colours he shares with John O'Neill. Exhuberance

so good to see Mark Walker getting some ''outside drives' 😆 away from big Dave and co in the tangarine . 

He is really gunna make a name for himself with owners like those. ( they have won Cox plates, Blue Diamonds , etc)  

[TAB For Ever]

23 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

That's an Aussie Kheir one as well I see in the famous colours he shares with John O'Neill. Exhuberance

so good to see Mark Walker getting some ''outside drives' 😆 away from big Dave and co in the tangarine . 

He is really gunna make a name for himself with owners like those. ( they have won Cox plates, Blue Diamonds , etc)  

GREAT !

You should feel real good about the Kiwis successes in Australia , so please keep highlighting them.

Two weeks ago I looked at the results of Kiwis at the bigger and main tracks and they were outstanding.

From memory James Mac won 4 in the day and Jason Collet won two. 

On the jockey front Corey Parish , Ryan Hurdle , D Stackhouse all won while the Collet girls , Mick Dee , and the apprentices JKennedy , L Bates etc have all been prominent of late.

In the training , Waller ,Baker were cleaning up while MMoroney[RIP] Busutinn/Young kept the Kiwi flag flying and our NZ Breds were doing well too.

Last Saturday featured many of the above again !