curious Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Foxton Racing Club · Foxton Racing Club is rapt to be the new home of the Wellington Cup Carnival Day! Book in for 2026! Foxton Racing Club Racing track 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: My understanding is that the RIB take over control of the course on raceday. They are the rules enforcer AND in my opinion given their raceday authority the Quality Control for NZTR. For example they should be on course early to ensure all taceday protocols are being and have been met. For example verifying that the track rating as notified is accurate and supervise the horses that are required to gallop in the morning. It is a nonsense that a Soft 5 is declared by Club personnel, o checks are done and then retrospectively the track is upgraded to a Good 4 immediately after Race 1. What makes that worse is the RIB's reluctance and or incompetence to not upgrade again or accurately when it is clearly evident the tracks is firmer than a Good 4. Now that is one example but one that impacts trainers who don't want an ultra hard track and punters who are looking for an accurate assessment. The latter now wait until couple of races are run to work it out. No the RIB are the rules enforcer AND the independent quality control for racing. Time they stepped up instead of tuning up 30 minutes before the first in their Italian suits, walking 10 metres of the track and not even bothering to check that the electronic timing or the photo finish is working. DECISION-MAKING PROCESSES REGARDING TRACK READINESS The NZ Trainers’ Association is deeply concerned by the frequent abandonment of race meetings due to unsafe track conditions, and the resulting impact on trainers, jockeys, and the integrity and reliability of New Zealand thoroughbred racing. We believe a comprehensive review of the decision-making processes concerning track readiness is essential to ensure racecourses are consistently prepared for safe and fair racing. Currently, the Racing Integrity Board (RIB) takes control of track readiness at 7:30am on race mornings. Unfortunately, this means that racing is often only deemed unsafe after an incident occurs, usually when a horse slips or falls during a race, leading to the usually inevitable abandonment of the meeting. This reactive approach is placing excessive pressure on RIB to make decisions based on the risk of an incident, rather than proactively ensuring the safety and condition of the track before the races begin. We believe a total overhaul of the current processes is urgently needed. The NZ Trainers' Association suggests that all relevant stakeholders—including the Trainers’ and Jockeys’ Associations, New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR), the Racing Integrity Board (RIB), and Club representatives—collaborate to explore practical solutions. This collaboration could focus on developing clear protocols for track management and accountability. We understand the submission has been given due consideration and will keep you informed of progress as it arises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 The ever conundrum of need to send a horse/s rider/s around at speed to prove the track is not safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, curious said: DECISION-MAKING PROCESSES REGARDING TRACK READINESS The NZ Trainers’ Association is deeply concerned by the frequent abandonment of race meetings due to unsafe track conditions, and the resulting impact on trainers, jockeys, and the integrity and reliability of New Zealand thoroughbred racing. We believe a comprehensive review of the decision-making processes concerning track readiness is essential to ensure racecourses are consistently prepared for safe and fair racing. Currently, the Racing Integrity Board (RIB) takes control of track readiness at 7:30am on race mornings. Unfortunately, this means that racing is often only deemed unsafe after an incident occurs, usually when a horse slips or falls during a race, leading to the usually inevitable abandonment of the meeting. This reactive approach is placing excessive pressure on RIB to make decisions based on the risk of an incident, rather than proactively ensuring the safety and condition of the track before the races begin. We believe a total overhaul of the current processes is urgently needed. The NZ Trainers' Association suggests that all relevant stakeholders—including the Trainers’ and Jockeys’ Associations, New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR), the Racing Integrity Board (RIB), and Club representatives—collaborate to explore practical solutions. This collaboration could focus on developing clear protocols for track management and accountability. We understand the submission has been given due consideration and will keep you informed of progress as it arises. Is this an April 1 joke or serious? If it's serious we negative nellies have been banging on about this for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 29 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Is this an April 1 joke or serious? If it's serious we negative nellies have been banging on about this for a long time. Do you mean the submission is a joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I should have added that this is a submission to the Members' Council, rather than the NZTR board and exec, so essentially going over their heads in an effort to get some action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 21 minutes ago, curious said: Do you mean the submission is a joke? April Fools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 57 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Is this an April 1 joke or serious? If it's serious we negative nellies have been banging on about this for a long time. About 20 years for me. Gave the game away for a long time because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 minute ago, curious said: About 20 years for me. Gave the game away for a long time because of it. I've never given up. Not in my nature. Hence this site and me saying what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 I see another NZ Record at Trentham. The broke 55 seconds for the maiden 1000m on a Soft 5! No doubt hand timed AGAIN!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 33 minutes ago, Trojan said: I see another NZ Record at Trentham. The broke 55 seconds for the maiden 1000m on a Soft 5! No doubt hand timed AGAIN!!! Won't be valid or is it if it's hand timed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 22 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Won't be valid or is it if it's hand timed ? It will be hand timed and then taken off the video and it will be half a second slower but then it will still be close to a record on a Soft 5 track. Instead of the Champagne Turf it wil be called the "The Turf where Champions emerge"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 6 hours ago, mikeynz said: Won't be valid or is it if it's hand timed ? That's an interesting question because the time is taken from the video. Is a time taken that way able to be ratified? I see they have times for all the runners for that race - that's a lot of stop watches! Or have they been updated some other way? Rogie must think his R49 maiden that won the race is a World Beater. By comparison we watch the Randwick races today and the commentators can read out the sectionals before the horses have got back to the birdcage. Meanwhile Trentham supposedly the #2 Premier Track in New Zealand hasn't been able to provide any such data accurately for years now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I see they have times for all the runners for that race - that's a lot of stop watches! Or have they been updated some other way? Are those times calculated from the margins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 7 hours ago, curious said: Are those times calculated from the margins? Who would know. All third world stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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