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In Auckland/ Waikato apart from Luk, has there been any other Asian harness trainers  or drivers?

i can not think of any others!

In the whole of NZ has there ever been an Indian/Pakistani harness trainer or driver?

Can not think if a single one, so there is one of harness racing problem, that this sizeable amount of people who have immigrated to NZ and increased our population, do not participate at any level in the sport!

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1 hour ago, the galah said:

i agree.

you know, you've just made a very important point.

Its a point,which you can see clearly,i can see clearly,but just slips through to the keeper for so many.

I'm sure for many of those in charge at hrnz,they don't get it and i've even read on this forum ,someone who  says they live in auckland,refer to asains in auckland,as if their ethnicity somehow is a postive for harness racing.

I've known many dozens of asain gamblers,but the ones i've known  gamble  on the pokies and particularly at the casino's(that is the better off ones prefer the casino's)And the younger ones prefer those types of gambling on line.

I mean,as i've posted before,go to a harness race meeting,look around you. Go to a local tab,look around you.

people of european and maori ethnicity are those who make up the bulk of harness racing customers.

Its not only asains who gamble in low numbers on harness racing,its pacific peoples,middle eastern people,african  nations.

looking at the stats,a couple of years ago,31% of aucklanders were asain,17% pacific people and 3% middle eatern,latin american and african.

So thats half of aucklands population that have ethnicity that is very unlikely to ever be involved in harness racing.

 

Don't Asians  like to gamble? Casinos  full

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42 minutes ago, Brodie said:

In Auckland/ Waikato apart from Luk, has there been any other Asian harness trainers  or drivers?

i can not think of any others!

In the whole of NZ has there ever been an Indian/Pakistani harness trainer or driver?

Can not think if a single one, so there is one of harness racing problem, that this sizeable amount of people who have immigrated to NZ and increased our population, do not participate at any level in the sport!

Indians love the cricket Brodster. not real keen on horses at all. 

Are there any Maori horse trainers ? 

we had a good one once in Queensland here. Here's an old snap shot of Hayden Haitana practising his painting of horses getting ready for his Fine Cotton training efforts of days gone by 😂😎🤣 

1513405196793_GJE1CIHCM.1-0.thumb.jpg.c70728d1691a9716750f89c341b36bcd.jpgrts 

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47 minutes ago, Brodie said:

In Auckland/ Waikato apart from Luk, has there been any other Asian harness trainers  or drivers?

i can not think of any others!

In the whole of NZ has there ever been an Indian/Pakistani harness trainer or driver?

Can not think if a single one, so there is one of harness racing problem, that this sizeable amount of people who have immigrated to NZ and increased our population, do not participate at any level in the sport!

i've just been through the top 200 trainers in nz ,and from my knowledge every one is european apart from luk chin(asain) and i think phil williamson(pacific island?).

it would be the same with the drivers. I think monika ranger and t hanara have pacific island families,but they would be about the only 2 i could name.

thats not a negative or positive,its just reality.

i think we should run HRNZ brodie. As we seem to have more grasp of reality and how those realities impact the sport currently and in the future.lol

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1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Indians love the cricket Brodster. not real keen on horses at all. 

Are there any Maori horse trainers ? 

we had a good one once in Queensland here. Here's an old snap shot of Hayden Haitana practising his painting of horses getting ready for his Fine Cotton training efforts of days gone by 😂😎🤣 

1513405196793_GJE1CIHCM.1-0.thumb.jpg.c70728d1691a9716750f89c341b36bcd.jpgrts 

Does Hayden not train these days?

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1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

Does Hayden not train these days?

hahaha , that was a criminal act. he was a bit scared he would get assasinated at the time.

but did 6 months jail in the end , and of course was banned for life from race-courses for the most famous Ring-In ever in Australia ( and probably the world ) 

money man Robbie Waterhouse only got 8 months 'detention' .

Hayden died in 2017 aged 72. 

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