amateur hour at addington

[the galah]

has there ever been a race ever run where you have to question the competence of every driver except the leading driver.

Surely the most ridiculous display of driving ever seen by all those involved.

I've often defended comments about amateur drivers,but that display was embarassing to watch.

even when they were running slower than a snail could move,there were drivers refusing to take up the 1/1,instead preferring to sit on the fence.

i wonder what the stipes will do?

Edited yesterday at 04:23 AM by the galah

[Brodie]

2 hours ago, the galah said:

has there ever been a race ever run where you have to question the competence of every driver except the leading driver.

Surely the most ridiculous display of driving ever seen by all those involved.

I've often defended comments about amateur drivers,but that display was embarassing to watch.

even when they were running slower than a snail could move,there were drivers refusing to take up the 1/1,instead preferring to sit on the fence.

i wonder what the stipes will do?

Galah, I refrained from posting about that race as after all it is an Amateur race.

Personally think it is great to have amateur races, but from many experiences I think there should be no betting on them at all.

The drivers get no financial compensate for their driving and yet they very often get hammered by the Stipes!!

HRNZ should pull the plug on the wagering which would be a shame cos it does give certain horses an opportunity to race other horses that  are not champions.

Yes to run a half in 72seconds was pretty pitiful, and most of the drivers should be query their efforts in that race.

 

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Galah, I refrained from posting about that race as after all it is an Amateur race.

Personally think it is great to have amateur races, but from many experiences I think there should be no betting on them at all.

The drivers get no financial compensate for their driving and yet they very often get hammered by the Stipes!!

HRNZ should pull the plug on the wagering which would be a shame cos it does give certain horses an opportunity to race other horses that  are not champions.

Yes to run a half in 72seconds was pretty pitiful, and most of the drivers should be query their efforts in that race.

 

it was hard to work out whether everyone was trying or they simply had no idea they were going so slow.

the fact it was an amateur drivers race should not diminish in any way the expectation that any race that is provided as a betting product,should expect better standards of driving.

 

[Newmarket]

2 minutes ago, the galah said:

it was hard to work out whether everyone was trying or they simply had no idea they were going so slow.

the fact it was an amateur drivers race should not diminish in any way the expectation that any race that is provided as a betting product,should expect better standards of driving.

 

You would think Micky Mouse would have some idea…. mind you he was in one one…. so maybe thought he could still win

[the galah]

2 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

You would think Micky Mouse would have some idea…. mind you he was in one one…. so maybe thought he could still win

yes,i get what you mean by that comment and hes not a driver i would place much blame on as he ended up getting that 1/1 position and he was driving a sit sprint horse..

But the reason he was able to position his horse in the 1/1 ,was because the horse behind him,foveaux gambler,didn't want that position and preferred to sit further back,for some inexplicable reason.

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

the fact it was an amateur drivers race should not diminish in any way the expectation that any race that is provided as a betting product,should expect better standards of driving.

You should of seen the Waikato one tonight then 🙄. Race 2 . just a debacle really. 😉

Horses were tailed off from being driven incompetently. Even the winner driver 'nearly' miss -judged it sitting quiet as can be then realizing the post was coming up soon lol 😆😂. very lucky not to get egg on the face.

Give these blokes 2 drives I say !!  . BUT make them run In-between the TAB tote races. let em' have a run for $1000 bucks or something . but seriously DON't LEt People BET on that stuff.

THEY have to be Non tote affairs Surely ???  Is very embarrassing to the great sport .

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

You should of seen the Waikato one tonight then 🙄. Race 2 . just a debacle really. 😉

Horses were tailed off from being driven incompetently. Even the winner driver 'nearly' miss -judged it sitting quiet as can be then realizing the post was coming up soon lol 😆😂. very lucky not to get egg on the face.

Give these blokes 2 drives I say !!  . BUT make them run In-between the TAB tote races. let em' have a run for $1000 bucks or something . but seriously DON't LEt People BET on that stuff.

THEY have to be Non tote affairs Surely ???  Is very embarrassing to the great sport .

yes i agree with what you say regarding the cambridge race. It was an interesting spectacle as well. i agree the driver of the leader showed little skill in  rating his horse to its ability, through the early stages of that race.

only thing is the lead time in that cambridge race,while fast,wasn't that unusual and was similar to that of the non win race later in the night.

Whereas at addington the speed of the race was that slow,that the commentator,trackside presenters and i'm sure anyone watching, were left scratching their heads as to whether they had ever seen anything like it before,and those on tackside made  comments to that effect.I mean,what else could they say.If you listen to the commentary again,you can here the commentator trying to stop himself from having a chuckle during the running and to be honest,who could blame him.

i see the stipes have charged c negus at addington.

the opportunity to improve into a good position ,when the pace was so slow,existed for around 150m,(thats a good 10 seconds),yet it never seemed to be her intent to do so.

my final comment is,C negus makes a wonderful contribution to the sport in the south island,,but like anyone else,will just have to deal with the consequences of the lack of level of skill/or perceived intent,that she showed.Thats life.

 

Edited yesterday at 11:11 AM by the galah

[Gammalite]

9 minutes ago, the galah said:

my final comment is,C negus makes a wonderful contribution to the sport in the south island,,but like anyone else,will just have to deal with the consequences of the lack of level of skill/or perceived intent,that she showed.

Mrs Negus had a lot of comment once here when tackling hard for the lead , with a horse completely off the bit early, and she got 3 months suspension or something. A race Fitzgerald was in and leading I think.

But anyway , the point is these drivers will NEVER be any better . They just don't get enough drives to improve .Not just tactically but 'Style' wise as well. Getting the best out of a horse in a close finish. ( and for a lot of these races even knowing what their horse is capable of early in the race too ) as demonstrated at Addington and Waikato tonight.

I still say give them more drives to have fun. But just between races. Like we do all our qualifying trials here. Plenty of time between TAB races for them to get out there and have one or even 2 drives. (between Tote Races)

A leading trainer here in Bris (with 4 very good driving children ) told me they have to go round 4 times (races)  a meeting to get any better at Race Driving. or they just Won't Improve.  He took a nephew Nathan Dawson from being useless to near being the QLD states best by doing this , and giving him a lot of drives to learn heaps,  while a junior. You are seeing the same with Wilson House currently ( and some of the Thornleys too ) 

[Brodie]

There were 7 drivers in the Amateur race yesterday.

In Ozzie there would’ve been charges on C Wigg for going so slow in front, however there were other drivers that allowed it to happen.

Of those 7 drivers at least 4 had previously had a professional safety and license prior to becoming an Amateur decade driver.

Just hard to understand how it was possible that C Wigg was able to get away with such a slow mile rate?

 

 

 

 

 

[the galah]

11 hours ago, Brodie said:

There were 7 drivers in the Amateur race yesterday.

In Ozzie there would’ve been charges on C Wigg for going so slow in front, however there were other drivers that allowed it to happen.

Of those 7 drivers at least 4 had previously had a professional safety and license prior to becoming an Amateur decade driver.

Just hard to understand how it was possible that C Wigg was able to get away with such a slow mile rate?

 

 

 

 

 

I've decided to take a fresh approach and i encourage everyone to watch that race with the volume up a little,a few more times..

i'm guessing the more you watch iit the more you smile.

You know, it made me think  about a group of about 10 mates who played in the same rugby team. After a few beers,some of them could get rather argumentative when discussing rugby,including their club matches,often the arguments  could get quite heated.

Amongst the group was one very laid back character ,who seemed to be able to put other goings on, within the group, in perspective..

well one night,when one of these regular arguments flared up,the laid back character stood up and said,"what about those warriors". One of the blokes arguing turned to him angrily and said "what are you on about" to which he again said "what about those warriors".

And the whole group cracked up laughing. And from that day on,they still argued,but every time the laid back bloke thought they were losing perspective he brought out the one liner and everytime the argument would stop.

anyways,most of those reading this are probably thinking ,whats that got to do with an amateur drivers race.

well,to me,anytime you here someone getting a bit upset and criticising some for a poorly judged drive,just use the one liner. .....yes,but .what about that amteur race at addington when they went that 72.8 half.

anyways,thats my thoughts on that race after watching it a few times.

oh,and what was it m house said to the d roberts ,when he was parked. Maybe he was telling him to pull back. i wonder?

Edited 9 hours ago by the galah

[the galah]

10 minutes ago, the galah said:

I've decided to take a fresh approach and i encourage everyone to watch that race with the volume up a little,a few more times..

i'm guessing the more you watch iit the more you smile.

You know, it made me think  about a group of about 10 mates who played in the same rugby team. After a few beers,some of them could get rather argumentative when discussing rugby,including their club matches,often the arguments  could get quite heated.

Amongst the group was one very laid back character ,who seemed to be able to put other goings on, within the group, in perspective..

well one night,when one of these regular arguments flared up,the laid back character stood up and said,"what about those warriors". One of the blokes arguing turned to him angrily and said "what are you on about" to which he again said "what about those warriors".

And the whole group cracked up laughing. And from that day on,they still argued,but every time the laid back bloke thought they were losing perspective he brought out the one liner and everytime the argument would stop.

anyways,most of those reading this are probably thinking ,whats that got to do with an amateur drivers race.

well,to me,anytime you here someone getting a bit upset and criticising some for a poorly judged drive,just use the one liner. .....yes,but .what about that amteur race at addington when they went that 72.8 half.

anyways,thats my thoughts on that race after watching it a few times.

oh,and what was it m house said to the d roberts ,when he was parked. Maybe he was telling him to pull back. i wonder?

perhaps i should have added,that was about 20 years ago when the auckland warriors were having a really bad run of losses and were at the bottom of the table. But their supporters always kept predicting,their form slump was going to end the following week.

Edited 9 hours ago by the galah