Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 01:23 AM Posted yesterday at 01:23 AM 46 minutes ago, Thomass said: I'm not sure...mayyyybe...but instead of close ups later in the day they've gone off to other venues Still putting in the massive effort to instill pain though...from yesterday...note the welt after the strike bounces off I've warned you before @Thomass about posting these types of photos taken off you TV screen. They are far from accurate let alone the fact you don't give an accurate reference. Another selected photo like that and you will be back on moderation.
curious Posted yesterday at 01:34 AM Posted yesterday at 01:34 AM 10 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I've warned you before @Thomass about posting these types of photos taken off you TV screen. They are far from accurate let alone the fact you don't give an accurate reference. Another selected photo like that and you will be back on moderation. What do you mean they are far from accurate?
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 01:40 AM Posted yesterday at 01:40 AM 4 minutes ago, curious said: What do you mean they are far from accurate? It is impossible to take a screen shot of a frame of video on TV with any accuracy. @Thomass manipulates those photos. About time he got off his one trick pony.
curious Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: It is impossible to take a screen shot of a frame of video on TV with any accuracy. @Thomass manipulates those photos. About time he got off his one trick pony. OK. So how is that one manipulated? To me it shows what it shows, including a whip mark across the horse's flank?
Murray Fish Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM 1 hour ago, Thomass said: Lynsey then picks up another yesterday.. good to see!
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM Posted yesterday at 02:03 AM 19 minutes ago, curious said: OK. So how is that one manipulated? To me it shows what it shows, including a whip mark across the horse's flank? That's what you think you see.
curious Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: That's what you think you see. I also see a way above shoulder height strike. 1
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM 44 minutes ago, curious said: I also see a way above shoulder height strike. Again that's your perception of a one video frame. I've been caught out with this type of image posting before with @Yankiwi and at the end of the day it doesnt achieve anything except feed the anti-racing woke mob. Bigger issues to address.
Freda Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I disagree. I don't subscribe to the no-whip ethic but riding within limits is perfectly possible. I defy anyone to convince me that Ryan Moore, William Buick, Oisin Murphy et al are soft on their mounts, or that harder or more punishing rides would achieve more. Their upper body strength and driving finishes put most of our hoops to shame. 2
curious Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Again that's your perception of a one video frame. I've been caught out with this type of image posting before with @Yankiwi and at the end of the day it doesnt achieve anything except feed the anti-racing woke mob. Bigger issues to address. Sure there are but that doesn't dismiss this one. 70% of the public don't agree with you. And if there is any mob involved, it's those that won't bring our whip rules into line with global standards and won't ensure that they are enforced with effective penalties. Head in the sand stuff which can only continue to lead thoroughbred racing down the same path as greyhound racing. 2
Chief Stipe Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, curious said: 70% of the public don't agree with you. Where do you get that "fact" from? 30% apparently are OK with it. That's a good percentage of the market.
curious Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Where do you get that "fact" from? 30% apparently are OK with it. That's a good percentage of the market. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0192843 You'll probably dismiss that too as not robust enough, but if so, put up some evidence to the contrary. 30% won't win an election if it comes down to letting the polis decide.
Chief Stipe Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 29 minutes ago, curious said: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0192843 You'll probably dismiss that too as not robust enough, but if so, put up some evidence to the contrary. 30% won't win an election if it comes down to letting the polis decide. 34% will win an election But seriously if 10% of the population like horse racing isn't that the same as those that like F1 motor racing? They other 90% can pat their pets.
Chief Stipe Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago You know this is what I don't understand about you lot that supposedly support racing. You focus on the minuscule parts and think that absolves you from all your other perceived sins in racing? Take up tiddlywinks!
curious Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) I can assure you that this is not modified. It is straight from the race video and consistent with what @Thomassposted.Whatever you may think about whether the rules here should be brought into line with global standards or not, this is a very bad look and the stewards have ignored it even though it was repeated several times in this instance. Great they brought in the flank strike rule but there's little point having rules without consistent application and penalties that are severe enough to minimise the incidence of breaches like this. Edited 14 hours ago by curious 1
Chief Stipe Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 5 hours ago, curious said: Great they brought in the flank strike rule but there's little point having rules without consistent application and penalties that are severe enough to minimise the incidence of breaches like this. I don't think it is great they bought in the flank strike rule as it is difficult to determine and enforce. Easy for you and @Thomass to sit in your armchair during sleepless nights as you worry about whip strikes and count them instead of sheep. "Eureka I found one and I'm going to post it online".... But then @curious didn't FIND it @Thomass found it. No doubt he has forwarded it to the animal rights lobby just like @Yankiwi did.
Chief Stipe Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago As for @Thomass alarmist headline - NZ's EPIC Whip cheating on a Grand scale. Yeah na!
Thomass Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 20 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Again that's your perception of a one video frame. I've been caught out with this type of image posting before with @Yankiwi and at the end of the day it doesnt achieve anything except feed the anti-racing woke mob. Bigger issues to address. What on earth are you talking about? "this type of image" is straight off the telly with ZERO photo shopping as per Curious posting exactly the same shot I couldn't photo shop a fly let alone a horse...I'm useless at anything tech These REAL piks show the RIB/NZTR are virtual signalling their way into the November 'thoroughbred open day' where multi media will be present lauding the effort of 'horse people' that it's all 'zero pain and total care' When EVERY single race shows a jockey striking the flank of a horse which of course is verboten due to the extreme pain a horse feels on that area Only the RIB stipes have been instructed to ignore this rule...with one only charge been issued in over 3/4 months Wake up 1 1
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Thomass said: What on earth are you talking about? "this type of image" is straight off the telly with ZERO photo shopping as per Curious posting exactly the same shot I couldn't photo shop a fly let alone a horse...I'm useless at anything tech These REAL piks show the RIB/NZTR are virtual signalling their way into the November 'thoroughbred open day' where multi media will be present lauding the effort of 'horse people' that it's all 'zero pain and total care' When EVERY single race shows a jockey striking the flank of a horse which of course is verboten due to the extreme pain a horse feels on that area Only the RIB stipes have been instructed to ignore this rule...with one only charge been issued in over 3/4 months Wake up Where did I say Photo-shop? You've taken part of one frame at way less than High Definition to support your claim. Just about as bad as @Yankiwi taking Google Gmaps screen shot and less than high resolution and sayin the Wanganui Straight Track was crooked!!!
Thomass Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Where did I say Photo-shop? You've taken part of one frame at way less than High Definition to support your claim. Just about as bad as @Yankiwi taking Google Gmaps screen shot and less than high resolution and sayin the Wanganui Straight Track was crooked!!! it's called 'reality tv' You're in some kind of fantasy world where you think WELTS and ARM ABOVE THE SHOULDER have been manufactured by stealth...weird At least Gavin Jones ex Cop ex head of Auckland CIB has now changed his 'fantasy RIB report' to "5" after reading his mistake on here "After reviewing the films, it was noted that Ms Satherley’s mount finished the race off strongly. She won the race by a narrow margin and over the concluding 100 metres she struck her mount a further five times. Although the additional strikes were not deemed as being excessive nor were they considered to have been a determinative factor in her winning the race, a small uplift, as recommended by Stewards is applied as it is deemed an aggravating factor. Accordingly, a $50 (25%) uplift is applied to the starting point penalty. Note: "It shall not be a contravention of the Rule if a Rider strikes a horse seven times prior to the 100-metre mark and does not strike the horse more than three times after the 100-metre mark. On this occasion Ms Satherley struck her mount five times after the 100 mark. Thus, the reason for the charge." So the sectional times are in and Josh ran 0.05 faster from the 400M to the 200M or a lg nk/1/2L...and 5 strikes...enabled him to be level at the 200M and a further 7 strikes from the 200M maintained a 0.1L win And old mate Gav 'thinks' the cheating didn't make a jot of difference #pfftt
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