Brodie Posted yesterday at 10:07 AM Posted yesterday at 10:07 AM 3 hours ago, paleface adios said: Are training fees cheaper if go to 5k stallion Potentially they could be, as a cheaper bred horse could be trained by an owner/ trainer or someone who trains more on a part time basis. I appreciate that it is very expensive to have harness horses trained, but I have serious misgivings that the HRNZ idea to pay out $60k stake money for 12 races today was a good idea! The amount paid out for the revenue from wagering just does not make sense with the way things are financially. The tote pools were absolutely pathetic, not sure about fixed turnover but I would imagine the Bookies wouldnt have done that well with many hotties mostly winning? They wouldve had just as many horses racing if the stakes were $25k or less and the $60k was just plain dumb! Good that some studs have dropped their stallions down to $5k and slightly cheaper to breed but then we all know that the service fee is probably the cheap part in getting a race horse to the races! Personally believe that if an owner goes to a $5k stallion so it can race in a few years in todays races, then they are not overly intelligent! No way on earth these races are going to be in existence with a $60k stake when they are old enough to race! The industry just can not afford it and it is only the Entain cash splash that enabled it today! Just telling it the way it is, unless Brad Steele can come out and state that Brodie is not on the money? 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Was anyone here, down at Ashburton? The crowd appeared very small despite what Brittany stated on Trackside, with the camera focussed on 5 people 😂 Have been told that the crowd numbers were dismal, but then again were we expecting different? Quote
paleface adios Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 23 hours ago, Brodie said: Potentially they could be, as a cheaper bred horse could be trained by an owner/ trainer or someone who trains more on a part time basis. I appreciate that it is very expensive to have harness horses trained, but I have serious misgivings that the HRNZ idea to pay out $60k stake money for 12 races today was a good idea! The amount paid out for the revenue from wagering just does not make sense with the way things are financially. The tote pools were absolutely pathetic, not sure about fixed turnover but I would imagine the Bookies wouldnt have done that well with many hotties mostly winning? They wouldve had just as many horses racing if the stakes were $25k or less and the $60k was just plain dumb! Good that some studs have dropped their stallions down to $5k and slightly cheaper to breed but then we all know that the service fee is probably the cheap part in getting a race horse to the races! Personally believe that if an owner goes to a $5k stallion so it can race in a few years in todays races, then they are not overly intelligent! No way on earth these races are going to be in existence with a $60k stake when they are old enough to race! The industry just can not afford it and it is only the Entain cash splash that enabled it today! Just telling it the way it is, unless Brad Steele can come out and state that Brodie is not on the money? Will buyers at up and coming yearling sales be targeting harness 5000 series don't think dalgety purdon dunn barns will be Quote
Taku Umanga Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 6 hours ago, paleface adios said: Will buyers at up and coming yearling sales be targeting harness 5000 series don't think dalgety purdon dunn barns will be Given the track record of past HRNZ "incentive schemes", you'd be a true optimist if you believe the Harness 500 will exist by the time the sales yearlings become eligible as 3-year-olds. Edited 1 hour ago by Taku Umanga Quote
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