NZ Jumping Races???

[Spatchcock]

On 13/07/2025 at 1:51 PM, Newmarket said:

Wow, how bad can it get? This winter has seen the worst of jumping, today at Woodville the same. 
 

I’ve always like the jumpers, but on what I have seen recently, it’s only time before they ban it. 

What are you even on about?

[Newmarket]

12 minutes ago, Spatchcock said:

What are you even on about?

Horses falling…. poor riding, poor tracks…. you blind or what?

[Spatchcock]

Horses have fallen in jumps races forever and a day.
It's statistically the safest it's ever been.

"Poor tracks" - it's winter and zero meetings have been cancelled.

Am I blind? I just watched six great races at Te Aroha.

[Newmarket]

5 hours ago, Spatchcock said:

Horses have fallen in jumps races forever and a day.
It's statistically the safest it's ever been.

"Poor tracks" - it's winter and zero meetings have been cancelled.

Am I blind? I just watched six great races at Te Aroha.

Things have changed …. Races beamed all over the world so really public wouldn’t know how many nags injured or died 30 yrs ago….. but everything under the microscope. 
Also didn’t have the protesters or greenies years ago…..times a changing. 

[Chief Stipe]

59 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Things have changed …. Races beamed all over the world so really public wouldn’t know how many nags injured or died 30 yrs ago….. but everything under the microscope. 
Also didn’t have the protesters or greenies years ago…..times a changing. 

"Times a changing" for what?

[The Centaur]

New Zealand can in no way match the protocols involved in UK jumping. If you can't do it properly then don't do it. Seeing an exhausted horse falling at the last jump probably injuring the jockey is madness to allow it to happen. Basically there is no public interest in jumping. Its more an extra option for some owners to recoup outlays. By all means create extra opportunities for flat racing but from an economical and business viewpoint jumping tote racing makes no sense.

[Freda]

9 hours ago, The Centaur said:

New Zealand can in no way match the protocols involved in UK jumping. If you can't do it properly then don't do it. Seeing an exhausted horse falling at the last jump probably injuring the jockey is madness to allow it to happen. Basically there is no public interest in jumping. Its more an extra option for some owners to recoup outlays. By all means create extra opportunities for flat racing but from an economical and business viewpoint jumping tote racing makes no sense.

I agree that UK jumping makes our efforts look amateurish and, although I've had a jumper or two, and love the jumpers, we can't do it like the Brits.

[Newmarket]

12 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

"Times a changing" for what?

Read what I posted….was a time if you were not oncourse watching races…. nobody would know if a horse fell. 
And no protestors back then

[Chief Stipe]

11 hours ago, The Centaur said:

Seeing an exhausted horse falling at the last jump probably injuring the jockey is madness to allow it to happen.

Why did the Jockey jump?

[Chief Stipe]

27 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Read what I posted….was a time if you were not oncourse watching races…. nobody would know if a horse fell. 
And no protestors back then

Oh we now have televisions and that makes all the difference.

 

[Chief Stipe]

29 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

no protestors back then

Go join the miserable sods and stop watching.

[Chief Stipe]

30 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Read what I posted….was a time if you were not oncourse watching races…. nobody would know if a horse fell. 
And no protestors back then

So you suddenly have these pangs of conscience because others can see it happen on TV.   Hypocrisy at its worst.

[Chief Stipe]

14 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Things have changed …. Races beamed all over the world so really public wouldn’t know how many nags injured or died 30 yrs ago….. but everything under the microscope. 
Also didn’t have the protesters or greenies years ago…..times a changing. 

750 million in 228 countries watched the Melbourne Cup on TV.  That's enough interest to run a solid business.

[Newmarket]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

750 million in 228 countries watched the Melbourne Cup on TV.  That's enough interest to run a solid business.

Good that you mention the Melbourne Cup. Pretty sure 7 or 8 horses have died in the past decade while racing in the Cup? Not a good look is it, very few died previous years, so what’s the cause? 

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Good that you mention the Melbourne Cup. Pretty sure 7 or 8 horses have died in the past decade while racing in the Cup? Not a good look is it, very few died previous years, so what’s the cause? 

I suggest you turn the TV off.  If you use your previous argument the reason is the old "does a bear shit in the woods" or "did the tree make a noise when it fell".  That is if you didn't see it it didn't happen.

A very very small number of horses incur fatal injuries in racing.  That's a fact since the time racing began.  That fact can't be changed.

There are a small percentage of horses in any stable that injure themselves without a saddle or a Jockey on their back.  That's the nature of bloodstock.

If you don't like it choose another sport.