hunterthepunter Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 it was tomo and his princess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: it was tomo and his princess Thought I recognised her! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) On 20/01/2019 at 5:45 PM, OLDWHITEMAN said: Again we have Canterbury stables dominating a two-day meeting and shutting the locals out. There were only two local winners during the Waterlea meeting. Tia Dalma won on the first day for trainer Alan Shutkowski, while Murray Pasha won today with Jazelle. M. Gill picked up a placing and appearance money which will pay the bills for a few weeks. How long can these small-time local trainers survive when Canterbury raiders take all the money? Southland is the only place that the local horses are competitive with Canterbury trained horses. Racing is doomed in these areas if this trend continues... Murray Pash married into the Berkett family, a name that was once one of the biggest names in the game. In saying that, in the 70's, almost every horse Murray started at Nelson where he trains started at over 100-1 and ran accordingly. Good to see that change. For me and many locals, the biggest win over the circuit was that of Dadndave in the Nelson Cup. Trained and owned by the Trathen's who are a well known Nelson family. Over the years, I feel the locals win their share over the circuit, providing they have a horse good enough to do so. I must admit, if it was the All Stars taking home the spoils, I'd have different take on it. They have already virtually snuffed out the dream of many people ever racing a group 1 winner, so if they took the left overs as well, the end would be in sight. Edited January 21, 2019 by Joe Kidd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe Kidd said: Murray Pash married into the Berkett family, a name that was once one of the biggest names in the game. In saying that, in the 70's, almost every horse Murray started at Nelson where he trains started at over 100-1 and ran accordingly. Good to see that change. For me and many locals, the biggest win over the circuit was that of Dadndave in the Nelson Cup. Trained and owned by the Trathen's who are a well known Nelson family. Over the years, I feel the locals win their share over the circuit, providing they have a horse good enough to do so. I must admit, if it was the All Stars taking home the spoils, I'd have different take on it. They have already virtually snuffed out the dream of many people ever racing a group 1 winner, so if they took the left overs as well, the end would be in sight. Used to have some good horses compete on the Nelson/Marlborough circuit, ... Marlborough always had a d.b fillies heat and some very good horse ventured up There. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe Kidd said: Murray Pash married into the Berkett family, a name that was once one of the biggest names in the game. In saying that, in the 70's, almost every horse Murray started at Nelson where he trains started at over 100-1 and ran accordingly. Good to see that change. For me and many locals, the biggest win over the circuit was that of Dadndave in the Nelson Cup. Trained and owned by the Trathen's who are a well known Nelson family. An example how harness racing has declined over the years though joe, Nelson cup of yesteryear and now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Joe Kidd said: Murray Pash married into the Berkett family, a name that was once one of the biggest names in the game great to see noel berketts colours noel snrs last winner was out of his super 3yo trotting filly chesapeake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: great to see noel berketts colours noel snrs last winner was out of his super 3yo trotting filly chesapeake She was a lovely Filly, heres one of her wins against a tasty field, Mr square a fav of mine in the also rans ...unfortunately she didn't leave anything of note as a broodmare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Rangatira said: great to see noel berketts colours noel snrs last winner was out of his super 3yo trotting filly chesapeake I remember her well. He had a promising mare in the early 80's called Lady Eastburn. We knew all about her and were ready to fill the sacks as soon as she started racing. A carload of us went over to Westport after Christmas and cleaned up. Pretty sure Murray Pash married Noel's daughter hence the Berkett colours. The horse that ran second to Chesapeake brings back memories. Dragon's Pride was the Kelly breed. Pretty sure Max Harvey bought him from the South Island and Barry Purdon trained him but that does not come up on the HRNZ site. I remember Max punting the horse up a storm when it won at the Park. My memory must be hazy as I was sure it was in BP's colours. Anyway, I digress. The Hill's of Nelson had two outstanding horses around the time as Lady Eastburn. Single Lord made it to cup class and then got exported. They also had a very good trotter called McShane who won an interdominion heat and was also sold to the US. We lived on McShane Road who the horse was named after so we had extra reason to follow him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said: I remember her well. He had a promising mare in the early 80's called Lady Eastburn. We knew all about her and were ready to fill the sacks as soon as she started racing. A carload of us went over to Westport after Christmas and cleaned up. Pretty sure Murray Pash married Noel's daughter hence the Berkett colours. The horse that ran second to Chesapeake brings back memories. Dragon's Pride was the Kelly breed. Pretty sure Max Harvey bought him from the South Island and Barry Purdon trained him but that does not come up on the HRNZ site. I remember Max punting the horse up a storm when it won at the Park. My memory must be hazy as I was sure it was in BP's colours. Anyway, I digress. The Hill's of Nelson had two outstanding horses around the time as Lady Eastburn. Single Lord made it to cup class and then got exported. They also had a very good trotter called McShane who won an interdominion heat and was also sold to the US. We lived on McShane Road who the horse was named after so we had extra reason to follow him around. Yes I remember dragons pride up in Auckland, I'm pretty sure your right that max Harvey purchased and B.P trained..some really good intermediate trotters in Auckland around the time dragons pride came north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said: They also had a very good trotter called McShane who won an interdominion heat and was also sold to the US. We lived on McShane Road who the horse was named after so we had extra reason to follow him around. I remember Chief Stipe this sites owner telling me he used to do abit of work for the hills as a uni student and McShane was a firm fave of his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I remember Chief Stipe this sites owner telling me he used to do abit of work for the hills as a uni student and McShane was a firm fave of his. Yes McShane was a beauty. I can't recall any other trotter from the Nelson area that has performed as well since McShane. The Hills know how to get the best out of trotters and Brian has passed that on to Kirstie. In recent years almost every trotter the Hills have raced has been very speedy but a bit on the temperamental side. Chief would have known about Single Lord as well who I believe is the best pacer they have raced. He was of course by Lordship, the sire of my all time fav horse, Lord Module. We were family friends with the Devine's and were fond of Lord Module before he even raced. That grew into admiration and adoration. Many remember the 81 Matson ffa which showed him at his brilliant best beating horses that were top shelf. Having said that, the race that will always be with me is the 1979 NZ Cup. Lord Module was magnificent. The crowd went off and I haven't heard a rousing reception as good since including when Terror to Love won his third. The whistle went as it was alleged Lord Module had impeded third placed Trevira but thankfully that was dismissed after hearing from the driver of Trevira, Gavin Hamilton. I don't think I slept for two days after the cup. Incredibly exciting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe Kidd said: The horse that ran second to Chesapeake brings back memories. Dragon's Pride was the Kelly breed. Pretty sure Max Harvey bought him from the South Island and Barry Purdon trained him but that does not come up on the HRNZ site. I remember Max punting the horse up a storm when it won at the Park. My memory must be hazy as I was sure it was in BP's colours. Anyway, I digress. the agreement to sell dragons pride was in dispute and was headed to court and may have got there. max harvey ended up with the horse and after a handful of unplaced runs with roy and barry purdon the horse went to noel taylors with a second in tussles rowe cup being its best result although it won a fair few lesser races. interestingly he was involved in a triple dead heat for third with landoras pride and one other in a decent race at alex park one night 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The good old days, when they also had a open class trot over the coast at greymouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shad said: The good old days, when they also had a open class trot over the coast at greymouth. yep racing fuked now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Shad said: The good old days, when they also had a open class trot over the coast at greymouth. the whitebaiting meeting mon/wed, handicap the first night and a free for all the second kates return, nigel craig, alias armbro, waipounamu, even speed, stormy morn, pointer hanover, hano direct 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Rangatira said: the whitebaiting meeting mon/wed, handicap the first night and a free for all the second kates return, nigel craig, alias armbro, waipounamu, even speed, stormy morn, pointer hanover, hano direct What a great bunch off trotters, certainly jogs my memory from years back, and the old grey course apparently is just a mess now, if I remember correctly the wanted to double the lease, which the club couldn't afford, a shame, not sure why they didn't shift to the grass at omoto, was a nice wee course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I remember they used to have the $10,000 bonus for winning Westport, Reefton and Greymouth over the Christmas period, Steven john doing the job in the mid 80's....used to like the race commentator Ian chambers very good caller on the coast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: I remember they used to have the $10,000 bonus for winning Westport, Reefton and Greymouth over the Christmas period, Steven john doing the job in the mid 80's....used to like the race commentator Ian chambers very good caller on the coast. I remember Steven John very well. He won the Nelson Cup in the mid 80's for John Rogers. I recall him winning about 6 races in a row so three of those would have been the Westport bonus FU. I'm certain the bonus was 20k at one time and I'm fairly confident Jim Curtin won it at least once. Ian Chambers was a solid caller and an improvement on his predecessor Eric Percy. When it comes to callers in the area, Jack O'Donnell.was the bees knees. He was also very welcoming to having me in his callers box while he called the Nelson Cup which was a buzz. I wish I could hear one of his calls again but can't find one. Grrrr. Always started with "this time". He was a character who enjoyed a tipple https://www.hrnz.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/3246-jack-o-donnell-passes-away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: I remember they used to have the $10,000 bonus for winning Westport, Reefton and Greymouth over the Christmas period, Steven john doing the job in the mid 80's....used to like the race commentator Ian chambers very good caller on the coast. our mana winning the marlborough cup features earlier in this thread. he had just won the west coast 10K bonus before heading to the nelson marlborough curcuit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Shad said: and the old grey course apparently is just a mess now, if I remember correctly the wanted to double the lease, which the club couldn't afford, a shame, not sure why they didn't shift to the grass at omoto, was a nice wee course. last time i looked in it was unused land and the stables and grandstand were long gone might have been able to give it a go if the rent had only doubled, it went from 13K to 42K from memory such genius land owners greymouth was easily my favorite trip away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said: I remember Steven John very well. he was rogers brother 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Rangatira said: last time i looked in it was unused land and the stables and grandstand were long gone might have been able to give it a go if the rent had only doubled, it went from 13K to 42K from memory such genius land owners greymouth was easily my favorite trip away What a shame, and great Little track abit like Wellington, used to get good size fields and always well supported..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: he was rogers brother I think a horse called wilber win may have got the bonus, some years ago, may have been trained near kumara, I'm sure it was 20k back in the day, been some handy types win it over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shad said: I think a horse called wilber win may have got the bonus, some years ago, may have been trained near kumara, I'm sure it was 20k back in the day, been some handy types win it over the years. Yes your right shad, Wilbur win in 1985, I see he was exported straight after. I'm trying to think of any others that got the bonus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Yes your right shad, Wilbur win in 1985, I see he was exported straight after. I'm trying to think of any others that got the bonus... Our Mana, CJ De Filippi, went on to be Cup class Edited January 23, 2019 by Brodie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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