Ricky Donnelly

[Forbury]

Race 1 today Addington wasn't a stand start at all this filthy criminal favoured Birdy giving it a RUN UP start This starter has zero integrity and so do Hrnz 

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Forbury said:

Race 1 today Addington wasn't a stand start at all this filthy criminal favoured Birdy giving it a RUN UP start This starter has zero integrity and so do Hrnz 

Lol I wouldnt call it criminal but certainly a continuation of the issues that they have with standing starts unfortunately!

Thing is that we just have to put up with what we are getting served up in regards the standing starts, as clearly HRNZ do not give a rats as to how they are actioned!

Very poor Forbury agreed, but only way not to get upset about them is to not bet on the stands as they do not appear to care at all?

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Brodie

[mikeynz]

29 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Lol I wouldnt call it criminal but certainly a continuation of the issues that they have with standing starts unfortunately!

Thing is that we just have to put up with what we are getting served up in regards the standing starts, as clearly HRNZ do not give a rats as to how they are actioned!

Very poor Forbury agreed, but only way not to get upset about them is to not bet on the stands as they do not appear to care at all?

 

Probably rushing to a clock for tv might make the starters a bit edgy too.

[Brodie]

39 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Probably rushing to a clock for tv might make the starters a bit edgy too.

It is no excuse!

Get them organised early snd have them standing.

They are very poorly actioned are the so called stands

[the galah]

5 hours ago, Forbury said:

Race 1 today Addington wasn't a stand start at all this filthy criminal favoured Birdy giving it a RUN UP start This starter has zero integrity and so do Hrnz 

funny thing is i think that actually was a good start. Birdy was moving forward a wee bit like you sa,y but they were in a reasonably fair line..

from my observations,there was a deliberate attempt a couple of months ago to have them standing and giving them all a fair start and it seemed to be getting to a point where it was working.

But just recently they have gone back to giving slightly moving starts and you are again seeing the people drawn in the middle,who  are on the last horse to turn in from the  the pre race circle,being disadvanteged.They often still aren't getting fair starts .

and why is that,well its because some of the drivers are more worried about being told off for getting a running start than they are about getting their horse in an advantageous spot before they say go. You see,the last horse to turn in from the pre race circle has to be the last horse moving forward. I.e.,because its the last horse to turn in.

so you see the  clever ,very confident drivers keep walking up to take up their position when the started is saying stand and you see the less clever,not as confident drivers stop and stand when the started says stand,even if they haven't ahd a chance to get into their position. If you watch it,you can tell who they are as it happens often enough to see a pattern.  

but as i said,the race you've highlighted was as good a start as you would get for non win trotters.

[Brodie]

9 minutes ago, the galah said:

funny thing is i think that actually was a good start. Birdy was moving forward a wee bit like you sa,y but they were in a reasonably fair line..

from my observations,there was a deliberate attempt a couple of months ago to have them standing and giving them all a fair start and it seemed to be getting to a point where it was working.

But just recently they have gone back to giving slightly moving starts and you are again seeing the people drawn in the middle,who  are on the last horse to turn in from the  the pre race circle,being disadvanteged.They often still aren't getting fair starts .

and why is that,well its because some of the drivers are more worried about being told off for getting a running start than they are about getting their horse in an advantageous spot before they say go. You see,the last horse to turn in from the pre race circle has to be the last horse moving forward. I.e.,because its the last horse to turn in.

so you see the  clever ,very confident drivers keep walking up to take up their position when the started is saying stand and you see the less clever,not as confident drivers stop and stand when the started says stand,even if they haven't ahd a chance to get into their position. If you watch it,you can tell who they are as it happens often enough to see a pattern.  

but as i said,the race you've highlighted was as good a start as you would get for non win trotters.

Galah, you are right the start was a lot better standing starts unfortunately 2000m than a lot that they have!

Thing is that it is just an absolute mystery envelope as to what you get from the 2000m stands at Addington especially.

We can complain as much as we want to but at the end-of the day they are always going to be very average unless the starter wants to change his attitude towards what he considers a standing start!

[PeterLambFan]

4 hours ago, Brodie said:

It is no excuse!

Get them organised early snd have them standing.

They are very poorly actioned are the so called stands

It’s almost like they need to bring a former starter out of retirement to remedy the issue!