The Definitive Answer To Becks Nairn and Other Conspiracists

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

anyway,you said steven b hasn't made any personal comments.  

but since he made the following comments,can he or you advise us exactly what type of plastic surgery she had while in thailand and what is the confirmation of her breeding stock(of horses i suppose). after all,some of us who watch the soaps like to find out how the story ends.

Go read her Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/p/Becks-Nairn-100063486552387/ - the NEW one and dissect her claims.  Pun intended.  Even she admits she is trained in nothing other than Taxidermy!  

Check out the cosmetic surgery if you want to: https://www.facebook.com/PhuketPlasticSurgeryInstitute/posts/thank-you-so-much-becks-nairn-for-your-lovely-words-and-for-trusting-phuket-plas/1323222162651787/ I wouldn't be surprised if the friend she refers to is also involved with the same horse charity.

This is her dissecting a horse.  Costs $495 to watch her do it.  

1 hour ago, the galah said:

look i already know how you think and that you wouldn't view steven b's comments as personal.

That's because they are not personal.  

1 hour ago, the galah said:

I get that. i'm not saying hes not arguing his case well,i'm just saying in my opinion,many would view  some of his comments about the lady concerned as being personal and i actually think the verocity of how hes critiqued this becks woman does indicate he ,to some degree fears the message that she carries.

The conspiracy hole again.  Anyone interested in racing SHOULD fear her message because it is fraudalent and fake.  Garner should have torn her apart if he was still any sort of journalist. 

1 hour ago, the galah said:

like his posts not only tell us a bit about the nairn lady,but also a bit about himself. that of course applies to everyone who posts on here ,but seldom do you see the verocity of such personal comments about her " being a master in emotional manipulation". "visibly enjoying exposure"." taking advantage of the horse(arcarno) and charity ,visibly exploiting them." 

Research her social media and if you do so with an open mind you will agree with @Steven B 's assessment.  She IS a "master in emotional manipulation", "enjoys the attention" and arguably she has taken "advantage of the horses she has dissected and the charity she was once part of.  The irony of course which you may fail to see is that she is exploiting horses in retirement and death!

If you are honest you will find her dissection videos and commentary macabre!

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

Check out the cosmetic surgery if you want to: https://www.facebook.com/PhuketPlasticSurgeryInstitute/posts/thank-you-so-much-becks-nairn-for-your-lovely-words-and-for-trusting-phuket-plas/1323222162651787/ I wouldn't be surprised if the friend she refers to is also involved with the same horse charity.

 

thanks for the update.Glad to hear the op on her eyelids went well.. Thailand  very reasonably priced by the sounds of it, for that type of thing. So shes thinking about getting a tummy tuck in the future? i hope that goes well for her..

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[the galah]

2 hours ago, Steven B said:

Mate ,

You’re right about one thing—everyone’s posts reveal something about themselves. Mine reflect a demand for evidence, transparency, and accountability. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why.

 

thats a chief type of reply. Where someone says i have i said something,in this case your comments makes me uncomfortable,when i have never said that.  so comment away as much as you like .

My analysis of your comments is you come across as intolerant of what shes doing and saying.Like you think shes got just enough knowledge to irritate you. 

3 hours ago, Steven B said:

I asked for proof that Arcano was fridge-gassed. What I got was silence—no confirmed pathology, no autopsy results, nothing. That fits a pattern with Becks Nairn: big claims, no hard evidence.

She reckons she sent a report to the CEO of Standardbred Racing NZ, says it’s time-stamped and all that—but where is it? More fabrication. She made a serious allegation, yet there are photos of her riding Arcano, schooling him up for the owner, Kirsty from Marlborough. Then she turns around and says the horse was fridge-gassed and had respiratory problems. So why was she training him? Why did she let him through the charity system?

Things aren’t stacking up. I don’t know Becks from a bar of soap. My interest is in the fridge-gassing allegation. There are thinking people  in this forum who  deal in facts, not fiction. You are one of her many minions she sends to defend her because she hasn’t got the guts to front. Like she said on Duncan Garner: “Let them bring the fight to me.” Big words. No action.

Becks Nairn has got a big, charismatic flapper mouth that’s going to land her in big trouble.

you asked for proof that arcano was fridge gased by m kerr.. I know that seems to be a constant in many of your posts.

but heres the thing as i posted a while back on this topic..

M kerr was rumoured to be doing that,the horse made what many thought was a remarkable turnaround in form within just weeks of m kerr getting it to win easily at addington,then the said horse dropped out next start and then was retired after the next start. Hrnz at the time,had said they were taking allegations of the fridge gas seriously due to the intel they had,had also issued media releases to that effect. M kerr was known at the time to be under immense pressure through his unusual behavior at some race meetings and it was subsequently revealed he had lost millions in gambling and defrauded many people through many different means.

then,to add to that, we get this nairtn lady saying she was involved in the rehoming process and after arcano was rehomed ,apparently the horse exhibited issues related to damaged  lungs. Then nairn ,to apparently prove a point ,dissected the horse and displayed on her facebook page what she said were the lungs of arcano,pointing to what she said were damaged lungs and gave what she thought was the reason.i.e. treated with fridge gasing by the trainer rumoured to be fridge gasing..

now you can talk as much as you like about the things not stacking up,the lack of definitive proof. And your right,there isn't any definitive proof.

nairn's conclusions are based on circumstantial evidence so need to be viewed accordingly.

but despite all you have said steven b,i bet you my bottom $,that if you asked  people who had knowledge ot the trainer and the horse,they would say they believed nairn.

and thats how life works,rightly or wrongly,people make assuptions and draw conclusions and just have to follow their own instincts and knowldge to form their opinions.

And in this case,what nairn has said seems  entirely plausible to me as well..

3 hours ago, Steven B said:

And here’s the kicker—the horse should’ve remained at the charity. But Nairn takes the horse out of the charity and trains him for the owner. The smell of money again—a chance to make a quick buck. The owner paid Becks for training the horse  Then she dissected the same horse and made public claims about its condition, still without producing a shred of evidence. Then she makes money out of an amateur dissection of Arcano. Nairn's big flapper mouth says Arcano is famous because he was fridge-gassed. A diagnosis that’s laughable. That’s double-dipping.

 

i had thought the places like what was once saddle and stirrups, took horses with the intention of rehoming them.

you appear to be saying they don't and say nairn should have retained arcano,not rehomed him.

i think you know thats not how those rehoming places work.

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[Chief Stipe]

19 minutes ago, the galah said:

thats a chief type of reply. Where someone says i have i said something,in this case your comments makes me uncomfortable,when i have never said that.  so comment away as much as you like .

My analysis of your comments is you come across as intolerant of what shes doing and saying.Like you think shes got just enough knowledge to irritate you. 

FFS @the galah her "knowledge" is BS.  If you are not anti-racing then she should "irritate" the hell out of you.  

[Chief Stipe]

21 minutes ago, the galah said:

M kerr was rumoured to be doing that,the horse made what many thought was a remarkable turnaround in form within just weeks of m kerr getting it to win easily at addington,then the said horse dropped out next start and then was retired after the next start. Hrnz at the time,had said they were taking allegations of the fridge gas seriously due to the intel they had,had also issued media releases to that effect. M kerr was known at the time to be under immense pressure through his unusual behavior at some race meetings and it was subsequently revealed he had lost millions in gambling and defrauded many people through many different means.

Where is the evidence?  The horse had had respiratory issues for a long time before Kerr got him.  Are you saying the previous trainer was at fault?

As for the "intel" those rumours were rife about argon but there was never any evidence found in NZ or OZ.  As we have debated before argon is not easy nor cheap to get a hold of and there would be a chain of evidence relating to supply.  Kerr was under pressure because of his gambling but you draw long bows my friend.

23 minutes ago, the galah said:

then,to add to that, we get this nairtn lady saying she was involved in the rehoming process and after arcano was rehomed ,apparently the horse exhibited issues related to damaged  lungs. Then nairn ,to apparently prove a point ,dissected the horse and displayed on her facebook page what she said were the lungs of arcano,pointing to what she said were damaged lungs and gave what she thought was the reason.i.e. treated with fridge gasing by the trainer rumoured to be fridge gasing..

The horse HAD respiratory issues BEFORE Kerr got it.  As for her dissection if she wanted to prove a point why wasn't the dissection done with reputable trained people observing and under proper forensic conditions?  Why weren't blood samples taken before the dissections?  Were tissue samples taken during the dissection and tested or even analysed by a trained animal pathologist?  All that would have proved her point well and truly.  She had no evidence that the alleged lung damage wasn't caused by a pathological disease the horse had over a long period of time.

30 minutes ago, the galah said:

now you can talk as much as you like about the things not stacking up,the lack of definitive proof. And your right,there isn't any definitive proof.

nairn's conclusions are based on circumstantial evidence so need to be viewed accordingly.

In my opinion it is worse than that however even based on this assessment by you why should any credence be given to Nairn's findings?

32 minutes ago, the galah said:

but despite all you have said steven b,i bet you my bottom $,that if you asked  people who had knowledge ot the trainer and the horse,they would say they believed nairn.

and thats how life works,rightly or wrongly,people make assuptions and draw conclusions and just have to follow their own instincts and knowldge to form their opinions.

And in this case,what nairn has said seems  entirely plausible to me as well..

That's the biggest problem with social media implausible and outlandish conspiracies are given airtime and there is always a group willing to believe them.  Nairn's evidence and conclusions fall over on numerous points.  I've already posted a few as has more eloquently @Steven B - but if the argon gave Arcano the necessary lift to win how did it do it?  Argon is stated by Nairn as an EPO agent (a stretch at best) yet Arcano was known to have respiratory issues prior to Kerr training him and Nairn says Argon damaged his lungs then if both those facts are correct how did Arcano win?  The horse wins because her conclusions are wrong.  

[Chief Stipe]

38 minutes ago, the galah said:

i had thought the places like what was once saddle and stirrups, took horses with the intention of rehoming them.

you appear to be saying they don't and say nairn should have retained arcano,not rehomed him.

i think you know thats not how those rehoming places work.

Wrong again.  Rehoming agencies RETRAIN horses so they can be rehomed.  Rehoming in this sense ISN'T putting them in a paddock where they will get grass and have a boring life moping around in a paddock for the rest of their lives.  Rehoming is RETRAINING them so they can be ridden and handled by any inexperienced person.  For some reason Arcano wasn't suitable for Nairn's view of rehoming.  She argues it was because of its respiratory issues.  But if that was the case why couldn't it have been rehomed to just live life in a paddock?  No Nairn chose to euthanise the horse and then embellish and put on internet showtime the dissection of the horse.

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

FFS @the galah her "knowledge" is BS.  If you are not anti-racing then she should "irritate" the hell out of you.  

i haven't seen anything said in this topic to get irritated about.That includes anything nairn said.And Bit of a yarn's not a forum that has people whose opinions irritate me.

but this is a topic(animal welfare and care of ex racehorses) that can be divisive elsewhere,whether its handled delicately or not. just is.And theres  people out there who  are unhappy with how things are going in life for themselves   and seem to transfer their frustration onto others and this can be a topic that draws that out. I'm talking mostly people who support nairn's point of view. I'm not meaing her or  anyone else whos posted on this topic either. just people are people in the real world..

 

35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Wrong again.  Rehoming agencies RETRAIN horses so they can be rehomed.  Rehoming in this sense ISN'T putting them in a paddock where they will get grass and have a boring life moping around in a paddock for the rest of their lives.  Rehoming is RETRAINING them so they can be ridden and handled by any inexperienced person.  For some reason Arcano wasn't suitable for Nairn's view of rehoming.  She argues it was because of its respiratory issues.  But if that was the case why couldn't it have been rehomed to just live life in a paddock?  No Nairn chose to euthanise the horse and then embellish and put on internet showtime the dissection of the horse.

Not wrong again. 

You do like to say that a lot to me. Can you at least say it when i have said something thats wrong,as i think you overuse it and it loses it effect on me. .

you said "rehoming agencies retrain horses so they can be rehomed." I said "rehoming places took horses with the intention of rehoming them". You  say tomato i say tomato type thing.

Edited 45 minutes ago by the galah