The Definitive Answer To Becks Nairn and Other Conspiracists

[Steven B]

34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I was with you until you got to this point.  Regardless of whether or not in your opinion she is "small fry" (she has 50,000 followers on Facebook) or a big fish through her exploitation of Arcano she poured fuel on an unproven allegation.  You are correct "she is someone pursing her interests" but it is at the expense of racing.  As for her "trying to help horses" - euthanising horses so she can profit from her dissection presentations is hardly helping.  

You're absolutely right. The number of her followers does not make a difference since she exaggerated an unprovable charge and created drama that hurts the world of racing. It is not compassion to pose as helping horses and sell off their bodies in dissection demonstrations to make a profit. It is hypocritical seeking her interests at the cost of the sport and the animals she purports to be concerned with. Racing is not worthy of this form of self-promotional action.

This is more than hypocrisy, but it is a racket. She says that horses are donated, but experts have come forward to criticize her manipulative approach of exploiting emotionally fragile owners into putting their animals to rest. She not only diagnoses people without valid credentials but also forces owners and then delivers diagnoses to the so-called Learning Centre, which is not a place of learning but rather a butch shop where opportunists seek easy money.

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit who also pays her to speak. Their membership of a rural scheme provides her with false sense of legitimacy, thus enabling her to work unimpeded. This ends up misleading the students and the people who are present, as they think that this is some form of education, when the truth is that this actually justifies amateur dissection by an individual who has no formal education.

Since she teaches in Ireland, some of them wrongly assume that she is competent to teach anatomy and osteopathy, when in reality, she is hoodwinking them. This is a dangerous pretence of power that deceives not only horse owners but students as well.

And it doesn’t end there. She once more makes money by narrating tales on Patreon where she exchanges fake news stories on her unverified autopsies. It is a cynical business concept that is based on dead horses, manipulation of emotion and lies.

 

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, Steven B said:

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit who also pays her to speak.

What's the name of the Irish outfit?

[Steven B]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

What's the name of the Irish outfit?

The Irish organization that supports Becks Nairn is Equi-ed that is a member of UK Rural Skills Accreditation EMA. Equi-ed provides courses in equine dissection under the direction of Nairn and markets it as a learning course in the fields of anatomy and biomechanics.lol But they also endorse that troubling institution that Nairn performs her paid dissections in - a place that has been described by many as a place of chaos and cultishness, with more than its share of eccentricities, such as so-called holy water.

Equi-ed is pathetically justifying the dissections by amateurs such as Nairn. The lectures she gives are comedic but students are paid real money to attend them. And it is unbelievable--I never saw anything of the kind. The whole arrangement gives the illusion of the credibility to a person who is not adequately qualified, and it is highly upsetting to consider that this is being presented as education.

[Steven B]

24 minutes ago, Trojan said:

Perhaps a message to MPI might be in order.

Posted 45 minutes ago

Look at her latest post.  This is the "Independent Equine Research and Therapy Laboratory"!  Give me a break!  It fails all the basic protocols for an evidential lab let alone an amateur dissection lab!  @Gammalite these nuttters have only one objective and that is to fuel conspiracies about the racing industry.  By the way "taking it to the Next Level" was to install solar panels!

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[Chief Stipe]

https://www.equied.com/equied-training-team/

I see Nairn is doing a Dissection Presentation in November in the UK and one in Scotland.  Only 500 pound course fee.

https://www.equied.com/product/equine-dissection-with-becks-nairn-uk/

[the galah]

4 hours ago, Steven B said:

She has the right to an opinion, but not where there are grave allegations such as fridge gassing unproven, that is not opinion, that is defamation. 

this seems to have been the common theme throughout your posts.

and the specific case thats been used as the example of what you define as defamation,relates to the trainer mitchell kerr and the horse he trained arcarno. Your defending Mitchell kerrs  good name from defamation....yeah i get what you've been saying and you've said it well,but it still seems sort of humourous in some ways.

oh and when hrnz made comment about being aware of the fridge gas allegations and make comment ,as they have with other rumours about other illegal substances in the past,do you view them saying ,they are aware of the allegations,as defamation of the whole industry. After all,they have no definitive proof but comment on such things.

2 hours ago, Steven B said:

 

 

You're absolutely right. The number of her followers does not make a difference since she exaggerated an unprovable charge and created drama that hurts the world of racing. It is not compassion to pose as helping horses and sell off their bodies in dissection demonstrations to make a profit. It is hypocritical to seek her interests at the cost of the sport and the animals she purports to be concerned with. Racing is not worthy of this form of self-promotional action.

This is more than hypocrisy, but it is a racket. She says that horses are donated, but experts have come forward to criticise her manipulative approach of exploiting emotionally fragile owners into putting their animals to rest. She not only diagnoses people without valid credentials but also forces owners and then delivers diagnoses to the so-called Learning Centre, which is not a place of learning but rather a butcher's shop where opportunists seek easy money. Many rumours have circulated about this place, and how demonic it is

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit that also pays her to speak. Their membership of a rural scheme provides her with false sense of legitimacy, thus enabling her to work unimpeded. This ends up misleading the students and the people who are present, as they think that this is some form of education, when the truth is that this actually justifies amateur dissection by an individual who has no formal education.

Since she teaches in Ireland, some of them wrongly assume that she is competent to teach anatomy and osteopathy, when in reality, she is hoodwinking them. This is a dangerous pretence of power that deceives not only horse owners but students as well.

And it doesn’t end there. She once more makes money by narrating tales on Patreon where she exchanges fake news stories on her unverified autopsies. It is a cynical business concept that is based on dead horses, manipulation of emotion and lies.

 

.patreon,whats that?.. Is that like the nz version of only fans,but including horse dissections? that would be  a strange combination if it was? i don't have the spare cash to subscribe to find out.

sounds like nairn gets around the world a bit. ireland, scotland and thailand, going by what you and chief say. I mean i have no idea about her,but the self promoting she does sems to be working for her. Its like she has found a niche market.

all the talk about her on this forum,gets her known by more,sort of making her even bigger and wouldn't that  be making her think this is all playing out in her favour.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by the galah

[Steven B]

5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

ht

4 hours ago, the galah said:

this seems to have been the common theme throughout your posts.

and the specific case thats been used as the example of what you define as defamation,relates to the trainer mitchell kerr and the horse he trained arcarno. Your defending Mitchell kerrs  good name from defamation....yeah i get what you've been saying and you've said it well,but it still seems sort of humourous in some ways.

oh and when hrnz made comment about being aware of the fridge gas allegations and make comment ,as they have with other rumours about other illegal substances in the past,do you view them saying ,they are aware of the allegations,as defamation of the whole industry. After all,they have no definitive proof but comment on such things.

.patreon,whats that?.. Is that like the nz version of only fans,but including horse dissections? that would be  a strange combination if it was? i don't have the spare cash to subscribe to find out.

sounds like nairn gets around the world a bit. ireland, scotland and thailand, going by what you and chief say. I mean i have no idea about her,but the self promoting she does sems to be working for her. Its like she has found a niche market.

all the talk about her on this forum,gets her known by more,sort of making her even bigger and wouldn't that  be making her think this is all playing out in her favour.

 

 

Even a vet said to her online that in case she wants to teach people, she needs to have an actual degree in anatomy, as it would make the followers accurate and confident. And she has no qualifications, she is merely dispensing false information that is not only dishonest but can be quite detrimental to the welfare of horses.

Nairn rejected that she was teaching, indicated that she does not require a degree, and boasted of being able to afford the best anatomy books. Congratulations - the first self-proclaimed vet in NZ with no qualifications, a bookshelf.

Then the following breath, she is running clinics. In one dressage message board, someone has enquired whether she competes at a high level and whether she has won any major competitions. She said she rides at GP level but when questioned to provide evidence, she could not give anything but only indicated that she had videos on Facebook. High-level dressage  riding apparently translates to because I said so.