The Definitive Answer To Becks Nairn and Other Conspiracists

[Steven B]

34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I was with you until you got to this point.  Regardless of whether or not in your opinion she is "small fry" (she has 50,000 followers on Facebook) or a big fish through her exploitation of Arcano she poured fuel on an unproven allegation.  You are correct "she is someone pursing her interests" but it is at the expense of racing.  As for her "trying to help horses" - euthanising horses so she can profit from her dissection presentations is hardly helping.  

You're absolutely right. The number of her followers does not make a difference since she exaggerated an unprovable charge and created drama that hurts the world of racing. It is not compassion to pose as helping horses and sell off their bodies in dissection demonstrations to make a profit. It is hypocritical seeking her interests at the cost of the sport and the animals she purports to be concerned with. Racing is not worthy of this form of self-promotional action.

This is more than hypocrisy, but it is a racket. She says that horses are donated, but experts have come forward to criticize her manipulative approach of exploiting emotionally fragile owners into putting their animals to rest. She not only diagnoses people without valid credentials but also forces owners and then delivers diagnoses to the so-called Learning Centre, which is not a place of learning but rather a butch shop where opportunists seek easy money.

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit who also pays her to speak. Their membership of a rural scheme provides her with false sense of legitimacy, thus enabling her to work unimpeded. This ends up misleading the students and the people who are present, as they think that this is some form of education, when the truth is that this actually justifies amateur dissection by an individual who has no formal education.

Since she teaches in Ireland, some of them wrongly assume that she is competent to teach anatomy and osteopathy, when in reality, she is hoodwinking them. This is a dangerous pretence of power that deceives not only horse owners but students as well.

And it doesn’t end there. She once more makes money by narrating tales on Patreon where she exchanges fake news stories on her unverified autopsies. It is a cynical business concept that is based on dead horses, manipulation of emotion and lies.

 

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, Steven B said:

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit who also pays her to speak.

What's the name of the Irish outfit?

[Steven B]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

What's the name of the Irish outfit?

The Irish organization that supports Becks Nairn is Equi-ed that is a member of UK Rural Skills Accreditation EMA. Equi-ed provides courses in equine dissection under the direction of Nairn and markets it as a learning course in the fields of anatomy and biomechanics.lol But they also endorse that troubling institution that Nairn performs her paid dissections in - a place that has been described by many as a place of chaos and cultishness, with more than its share of eccentricities, such as so-called holy water.

Equi-ed is pathetically justifying the dissections by amateurs such as Nairn. The lectures she gives are comedic but students are paid real money to attend them. And it is unbelievable--I never saw anything of the kind. The whole arrangement gives the illusion of the credibility to a person who is not adequately qualified, and it is highly upsetting to consider that this is being presented as education.

[Steven B]

24 minutes ago, Trojan said:

Perhaps a message to MPI might be in order.

Posted 45 minutes ago

Look at her latest post.  This is the "Independent Equine Research and Therapy Laboratory"!  Give me a break!  It fails all the basic protocols for an evidential lab let alone an amateur dissection lab!  @Gammalite these nuttters have only one objective and that is to fuel conspiracies about the racing industry.  By the way "taking it to the Next Level" was to install solar panels!

One Year of Learning, Growth, and Connection lol

[Chief Stipe]

https://www.equied.com/equied-training-team/

I see Nairn is doing a Dissection Presentation in November in the UK and one in Scotland.  Only 500 pound course fee.

https://www.equied.com/product/equine-dissection-with-becks-nairn-uk/

[the galah]

4 hours ago, Steven B said:

She has the right to an opinion, but not where there are grave allegations such as fridge gassing unproven, that is not opinion, that is defamation. 

this seems to have been the common theme throughout your posts.

and the specific case thats been used as the example of what you define as defamation,relates to the trainer mitchell kerr and the horse he trained arcarno. Your defending Mitchell kerrs  good name from defamation....yeah i get what you've been saying and you've said it well,but it still seems sort of humourous in some ways.

oh and when hrnz made comment about being aware of the fridge gas allegations and make comment ,as they have with other rumours about other illegal substances in the past,do you view them saying ,they are aware of the allegations,as defamation of the whole industry. After all,they have no definitive proof but comment on such things.

2 hours ago, Steven B said:

 

 

You're absolutely right. The number of her followers does not make a difference since she exaggerated an unprovable charge and created drama that hurts the world of racing. It is not compassion to pose as helping horses and sell off their bodies in dissection demonstrations to make a profit. It is hypocritical to seek her interests at the cost of the sport and the animals she purports to be concerned with. Racing is not worthy of this form of self-promotional action.

This is more than hypocrisy, but it is a racket. She says that horses are donated, but experts have come forward to criticise her manipulative approach of exploiting emotionally fragile owners into putting their animals to rest. She not only diagnoses people without valid credentials but also forces owners and then delivers diagnoses to the so-called Learning Centre, which is not a place of learning but rather a butcher's shop where opportunists seek easy money. Many rumours have circulated about this place, and how demonic it is

Nairn does the dissections, collects fees and all the work is financed by an Irish outfit that also pays her to speak. Their membership of a rural scheme provides her with false sense of legitimacy, thus enabling her to work unimpeded. This ends up misleading the students and the people who are present, as they think that this is some form of education, when the truth is that this actually justifies amateur dissection by an individual who has no formal education.

Since she teaches in Ireland, some of them wrongly assume that she is competent to teach anatomy and osteopathy, when in reality, she is hoodwinking them. This is a dangerous pretence of power that deceives not only horse owners but students as well.

And it doesn’t end there. She once more makes money by narrating tales on Patreon where she exchanges fake news stories on her unverified autopsies. It is a cynical business concept that is based on dead horses, manipulation of emotion and lies.

 

.patreon,whats that?.. Is that like the nz version of only fans,but including horse dissections? that would be  a strange combination if it was? i don't have the spare cash to subscribe to find out.

sounds like nairn gets around the world a bit. ireland, scotland and thailand, going by what you and chief say. I mean i have no idea about her,but the self promoting she does sems to be working for her. Its like she has found a niche market.

all the talk about her on this forum,gets her known by more,sort of making her even bigger and wouldn't that  be making her think this is all playing out in her favour.

 

Edited yesterday at 02:43 AM by the galah

[Steven B]

5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

ht

4 hours ago, the galah said:

this seems to have been the common theme throughout your posts.

and the specific case thats been used as the example of what you define as defamation,relates to the trainer mitchell kerr and the horse he trained arcarno. Your defending Mitchell kerrs  good name from defamation....yeah i get what you've been saying and you've said it well,but it still seems sort of humourous in some ways.

oh and when hrnz made comment about being aware of the fridge gas allegations and make comment ,as they have with other rumours about other illegal substances in the past,do you view them saying ,they are aware of the allegations,as defamation of the whole industry. After all,they have no definitive proof but comment on such things.

.patreon,whats that?.. Is that like the nz version of only fans,but including horse dissections? that would be  a strange combination if it was? i don't have the spare cash to subscribe to find out.

sounds like nairn gets around the world a bit. ireland, scotland and thailand, going by what you and chief say. I mean i have no idea about her,but the self promoting she does sems to be working for her. Its like she has found a niche market.

all the talk about her on this forum,gets her known by more,sort of making her even bigger and wouldn't that  be making her think this is all playing out in her favour.

 

 

Even a vet said to her online that in case she wants to teach people, she needs to have an actual degree in anatomy, as it would make the followers accurate and confident. And she has no qualifications, she is merely dispensing false information that is not only dishonest but can be quite detrimental to the welfare of horses.

Nairn rejected that she was teaching, indicated that she does not require a degree, and boasted of being able to afford the best anatomy books. Congratulations - the first self-proclaimed vet in NZ with no qualifications, a bookshelf.

Then the following breath, she is running clinics. In one dressage message board, someone has enquired whether she competes at a high level and whether she has won any major competitions. She said she rides at GP level but when questioned to provide evidence, she could not give anything but only indicated that she had videos on Facebook. High-level dressage  riding apparently translates to because I said so.

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

18 hours ago, Steven B said:

Nairn rejected that she was teaching, indicated that she does not require a degree, and boasted of being able to afford the best anatomy books. Congratulations - the first self-proclaimed vet in NZ with no qualifications, a bookshelf.

Well if she rejected the accuation that she was teaching then what the hell are the courses she is runing in the UK and Scotland?  That STUDENTS are paying fairly hefty coin (NZD$1,200) to attend!  According to the Equine-ed website they are getting CPD credits which I gather are the equivalent of NCEA points!!!!

[Chief Stipe]

22 hours ago, the galah said:

and the specific case thats been used as the example of what you define as defamation,relates to the trainer mitchell kerr and the horse he trained arcarno. Your defending Mitchell kerrs  good name from defamation....yeah i get what you've been saying and you've said it well,but it still seems sort of humourous in some ways.

Kerr was found guilty for other matters not the allegations that Nairn is making.  In the process like a lot of conspiracists she is actually slurring the integrity of a number of connected individuals.  You can laugh all you want but slander and defamation are still that regardless of any other misdemeanour!  It is a bit like saying because I got a speeding ticket I must be guilty stealing cars.

23 hours ago, the galah said:

oh and when hrnz made comment about being aware of the fridge gas allegations and make comment ,as they have with other rumours about other illegal substances in the past,do you view them saying ,they are aware of the allegations,as defamation of the whole industry. After all,they have no definitive proof but comment on such things.

They were just that - rumours.  However the difference between HRNZ and the Australian authorities is that they were making a general statement and not identifying any one individual unlike Nairn.  That isn't defamation or slander just information that those in racing are aware of the rumours and are working to maintain racing integrity.  The fact is they found no evidence other than rumour.  Nairn alleges that Arcano was treated with Argon and that defames a number of individuals by association.  If she honestly believed that her diagnosis was correct then she should have taken all steps with the horse in her care to prove it.  She didn't.  However she did profit from the Arcano being euthanised.

23 hours ago, the galah said:

sounds like nairn gets around the world a bit. ireland, scotland and thailand, going by what you and chief say. I mean i have no idea about her,but the self promoting she does sems to be working for her. Its like she has found a niche market.

all the talk about her on this forum,gets her known by more,sort of making her even bigger and wouldn't that  be making her think this is all playing out in her favour.

She has found a niche market of the gullible while working in a macabre way.  She should be called out for her fraud.  At the very least it diminishes her chances a fraudently taking money off more gullible individuals.  

[the galah]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

She has found a niche market of the gullible while working in a macabre way.  She should be called out for her fraud.  At the very least it diminishes her chances a fraudently taking money off more gullible individuals.  

couldn't you turn that argument on its head and say,she is the one trying to protect the gullible,i.e. those who have chosen to believe that arcano was not treated with a performance enhancer. And those who were possibly defrauded when they bet in the race that arcano won.

anyway,you acknowledge shes found a niche market either way,so its working for her. 

Edited 5 hours ago by the galah

[Steven B]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Well if she rejected the accuation that she was teaching then what the hell are the courses she is runing in the UK and Scotland?  That STUDENTS are paying fairly hefty coin (NZD$1,200) to attend!  According to the Equine-ed website they are getting CPD credits which I gather are the equivalent of NCEA points!!!!

Stipe you hit the nail on the head 

Something is amiss with what Equi-ed and Becks Nairn are up to

. Even though Nairn has no recognised qualification to teach professionals or even carry out dissections, he is conducting paid courses in Ireland and Scotland that are accredited as CPD. These are not informal workshops but organised, costly classes which are sold to vets, therapists and saddle fitters. Students are disbursing more than NZD 1, 200 and professional development credit is being issued to them. It is not only misleading, but it is a possible violation of professional standards

. They are attempting now, using the same shady model, to do the same in New Zealand. Equi-ed is supporting her once more, this time with a spooky Learning Centre that she is boasting of on the internet. People have been discussing what they do there and it is very worrying. MPs are not going to do anything and the local vets appear to close their eyes- but people want to know. Equi-ed have sold her as an internationally recognized one, when in real sense, she is a low-level horse butcher with no credentials

They are the ones that market her and provide her a platform not only in New Zealand, but also in Ireland and Scotland. When Equi-ed considers that someone like Nairn is fit to impart professional training then it speaks volumes of what kind of learning they are providing. And it is puzzling that nothing has so far been done in Ireland or Scotland. This should be researched. Nairn is not a qualified teacher or dissector. She is not under control like real professionals.

Ripping off students and interns through unaccredited and unregulated training is an outrage and is putting the integrity of the industry in danger. This can only be closed down by publicity and official complaints. Speak up, if you are in the equine or veterinary or have attended one of these courses. It is not merely a question of an individual. It is what protects standards, students and animals.

[hesi]

I would have thought the authorities in Britain who administer CPD would not accredit it, unless the person teaching it had formal qualifications

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, hesi said:

I would have thought the authorities in Britain who administer CPD would not accredit it, unless the person teaching it had formal qualifications

That concerns me as well.  One of my careers was in education and I had to deal with a Tutor that didn't have the qualifications they said they had.  Academic fraud is normally treated harshly.  If it isn't then everyone who has done the hard yards and spent real money on that education/training is discounted.  FFS it takes just as long to be a fully qualified Vet as it does a GP!  Just ask Leo Molloy.

[hesi]

They don't fuck around either, if you don't keep up, you are out

I flatted with vets when I went to Massey Uni.  They were animals lol

[Steven B]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

ouldn't you turn that argument on its head and say,she is the one trying to protect the gullible,i.e. those who have chosen to believe that arcano was not treated with a performance enhancer. And those who were possibly defrauded when they bet in the race that arcano won.

anyway,you acknowledge shes found a niche market either way,so its working for her. 

Becks Nairn says the horse was fridge-gassed and that she dissected it, but she has not shown hard hoof evidence to prove it. She performs dissections even though she is not qualified as a professional, which is incredibly disproportionate. Others are currently attempting to turn the story around—that she is saving the inept on behalf of the unaware by blowing the whistle over Arcano possibly being taken in by performance enhancements and defending those who were purportedly defrauded in betting on that race.

However, when that is her stand, then where is the transparency? Where is the verifiable evidence? If she is truly working in the interests of the people, what is the reason to do it behind paywalls and empty promises? You cannot claim to be saving the vulnerable while profiting from unregulated and unqualified practices.

Fresh in mind: Nairn was three times a profiteer of Arcano. She passed her unsound horse through a charity and sold him to a purchaser who suffered a loss. Nairn ought to have been required to reimburse the purchase cost and the schooling expense she had imposed, a purported $250 per week over six weeks. So who is actually being ripped off?

[Gammalite]

31 minutes ago, hesi said:

They don't fuck around either, if you don't keep up, you are out

I flatted with vets when I went to Massey Uni.  They were animals lol

I do have to reply to that Hesi old mate, as have worked with nearly every Veterinary Specialist in Brisbane in my working days, and they are the most wonderful compassionate people you could ever wish to meet in your life. And their wonderful staff are amazing too . So I don't want any image of vets being cast like 'Tradies' or anything , coming from you 😉😁 lol

35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

That concerns me as well.  One of my careers was in education and I had to deal with a Tutor that didn't have the qualifications they said they had.  Academic fraud is normally treated harshly.

Yes , I guess there is a huge problem with 'Levels' of education. and qualification. We had a Vets bridging course at UQ where overseas vets were trying to get a ticket to practice Vet in Australia. a total nightmare . some had only seen large animal in their days. Cows and goats and horses are valuable commodities in some countries. And Cats and dogs just run feral in the streets and they have no idea how to handle them , let alone treat them. Is REALLY Funny to see first hand. Our graduates are near best in the world in Oz and from Massey.

I don't know what Nairn is lecturing exactly , or what qualification she has. But if it is a NZ one it is certainly better than what a Heap of other countries have. She is performing pretty intricate stuff, albeit on cadavars. also Taxidermy and shit like that. Do you need a special qualification for that ? she's not holding a scalpel over living horses is she ?  

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Gammalite

[Steven B]

47 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

That concerns me as well.  One of my careers was in education and I had to deal with a Tutor that didn't have the qualifications they said they had.  Academic fraud is normally treated harshly.  If it isn't then everyone who has done the hard yards and spent real money on that education/training is discounted.  FFS it takes just as long to be a fully qualified Vet as it does a GP!  Just ask Leo Molloy.

I read somewhere that Equi-ed were planning to run courses at the Creepy Learning Centre, with Becks Nairn set to lecture.  ( If she isn't doing it now )That’s a serious concern.

My issue with Equi-ed is their connection to a rural institution that covers Nairn’s lack of qualifications. By doing so, they’re effectively legitimising dissections carried out by individuals like her—unqualified and delusional. That’s where things become dangerous. When one inexperienced person starts dissecting horses for profit, others are likely to follow. This trend is deeply troubling to the veterinary community.

In New Zealand, I believe the authorities will come down on Equi-ed like a ton of bricks. Nairn is neither a qualified instructor nor a certified dissectionist, and it’s disturbing that Equi-ed is hiring someone like her just to fill seats and collect money for courses that are, in essence, rubbish. This is what Nairn is cashing in on—and it’s putting professional standards, students, and animal welfare at serious risk.

[Chief Stipe]

45 minutes ago, Steven B said:

New Zealand, I believe the authorities will come down on Equi-ed like a ton of bricks. Nairn is neither a qualified instructor nor a certified dissectionist, and it’s disturbing that Equi-ed is hiring someone like her just to fill seats and collect money for courses that are, in essence, rubbish. This is what Nairn is cashing in on—and it’s putting professional standards, students, and animal welfare at serious risk.

I'm surprised MPI aren't on top of this.  

[curious]

7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I'm surprised MPI aren't on top of this.  

On what basis?

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, curious said:

On what basis?

You are obviously not keeping up with what's happening.

First question:  are there rules around killing livestock and butchering it?

[curious]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

You are obviously not keeping up with what's happening.

First question:  are there rules around killing livestock and butchering it?

I don't see the point you are making. What is the basis that you think MPI should be intervening on?

[Steven B]

33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

1 hour ago, Steven B said:

New Zealand, I believe the authorities will come down on Equi-ed like a ton of bricks. Nairn is neither a qualified instructor nor a certified dissectionist, and it’s disturbing that Equi-ed is hiring someone like her just to fill seats and collect money for courses that are, in essence, rubbish. This is what Nairn is cashing in on—and it’s putting professional standards, students, and animal welfare at serious risk.

I'm surprised MPI aren't on top of this.  

I read that Nairn claimed MPI had inspected her, but I highly doubt that ever happened. She’s a schemer—knows how to maneuver around authority with charisma and sweet talk like an old pro.

The issue at hand is the Learning Centre funded by Equi-ed. It’s directly connected to Nairn and operates more like a butcher shop than a legitimate educational institution. If Equi-ed supports this, they’re not just approving unqualified dissections—they’re actively facilitating them.

Considering the risks to people, students and animal welfare, I’m genuinely amazed MPI hasn’t intervened. When Equi-ed vindicates unqualified dissections, it’s not merely immoral—it’s hazardous.

[Chief Stipe]

26 minutes ago, curious said:

I don't see the point you are making. What is the basis that you think MPI should be intervening on?

Are you serious?  Just have a look at the rules for home kill beef!!!

[hesi]

22 minutes ago, Steven B said:

I read that Nairn claimed MPI had inspected her, but I highly doubt that ever happened. She’s a schemer—knows how to maneuver around authority with charisma and sweet talk like an old pro.

The issue at hand is the Learning Centre funded by Equi-ed. It’s directly connected to Nairn and operates more like a butcher shop than a legitimate educational institution. If Equi-ed supports this, they’re not just approving unqualified dissections—they’re actively facilitating them.

Considering the risks to people, students and animal welfare, I’m genuinely amazed MPI hasn’t intervened. When Equi-ed vindicates unqualified dissections, it’s not merely immoral—it’s hazardous.

Did she make available the MPI inspection report

[Steven B]

22 minutes ago, hesi said:

Did she make available the MPI inspection report

I read  that she was doing her block when someone reported her to MPI by a vet or vets. I can guess that she must have been able to charm the inspector on the phone and escape an actual inspection. Somehow, she has been cleared so that she can resume her job, although she has a track record of evading responsibility and confrontation according to what I have read.

I suppose they did inspect that spooky Learning Centre- there is even the word that holy water might have been used- lol but I would wager that she has not toed the line since. It appears that not one vet has lodged complaints against her, and she has been dismissive, even to the point of calling one a nutter or funny head in the head. That is so disrespectful, particularly of someone who would not be the depth, nor the integrity, that vet most definitely is. Remember her quote from the podcast, " I work with the best in the world, and my education has cost me a fortune " lol What education?

The more I get to know about this woman, the more I feel that she works behind the smokescreen, manipulating other people to her advantage. It is not the horses, but about her and her craving to be validated and the show she has made about herself online