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Interesting topic.     Keeping away from Nairn and the original thrust of her allegations,  I'm appalled at the apparent ease that so many seem to find in referring to themselves as 'expert '  in whatever and then proceeding to fleece the gullible. 

I've had a staff member ( with her own horses ) frank her stupidity by spending thousands with unqualified and barely competent practitioners getting a young horse broken in, having riding lessons, etc, etc, with predictable results.  

With a bit of advice and common sense the 'unbroken' horse came to hand quickly and kindly, her riding also improved from abysmal to  fair on a tractable horse, even to the point where she managed to ride slow trackwork for a local trainer. 

The point being that these unqualified practitioners are able to make money with considerable risk inherent for many who get sucked in. 

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I wonder how much of that is due to the so called experts claiming to be more expert than they really are, and how much is that their prospective customers have become less informed and less discerning?

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9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Equi-ed has acquired Government funding as do their students in some form or other.  Given the apparent lack of quality and valid qualifications of some of their tutors then one must conclude that either education standards have slipped and/or there is a rort.
 

They have also gained support for their courses from a number of credible organisations, e.g., 

https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/2025/02/the-jockey-club-backs-enhanced-equine-welfare-education-programme-for-racing-staff-in-first-programme-of-its-kind-in-britain/

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1 hour ago, curious said:

I wonder how much of that is due to the so called experts claiming to be more expert than they really are, and how much is that their prospective customers have become less informed and less discerning?

Obviously, to both.

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2 hours ago, Freda said:

Interesting topic.     Keeping away from Nairn and the original thrust of her allegations,  I'm appalled at the apparent ease that so many seem to find in referring to themselves as 'expert '  in whatever and then proceeding to fleece the gullible. 

I've had a staff member ( with her own horses ) frank her stupidity by spending thousands with unqualified and barely competent practitioners getting a young horse broken in, having riding lessons, etc, etc, with predictable results.  

With a bit of advice and common sense the 'unbroken' horse came to hand quickly and kindly, her riding also improved from abysmal to  fair on a tractable horse, even to the point where she managed to ride slow trackwork for a local trainer. 

The point being that these unqualified practitioners are able to make money with considerable risk inherent for many who get sucked in. 

It has always been around, just that the internet and social media provide a very convenient and easy vehicle.

I've always been a great respecter of genuine talent, but it is a minefield these days.  I have my areas of expertise as do many and can sus a person out very easily who is a wannabe.  Like you Freda with horses.  You probably know so much about them with the knowledge gained from years of experience and can easily pick a fraudster

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2 hours ago, curious said:

We'll see what the new CEO does - I think he is the fourth CEO in 4 years.  I also think you are stretching to call the UK Jockey Club "credible".

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3 hours ago, Freda said:

The point being that these unqualified practitioners are able to make money with considerable risk inherent for many who get sucked in.

Some parts of the Equine industry are akin to the Wild West.  It has always troubled me that you don't need to be licensed to break a horse in.

 

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2 hours ago, curious said:

I wonder how much of that is due to the so called experts claiming to be more expert than they really are, and how much is that their prospective customers have become less informed and less discerning?

Well we now have the situation with the likes of Equi-ed that "so called experts" now have the opportunity to get dodgy non-quality assured qualifications that make the "so called experts" qualified!  I'm sure if you pitched up to the unitiated with a 6 month Diploma in Bit and Bridle selection/management you could command a fairly hefty fee!

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We live in a world of experts, there across all fields, I'm sure many will be self acclaimed no doubt, maybe some deep digging one may find just how expert they really are.

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3 minutes ago, Shad said:

We live in a world of experts, there across all fields, I'm sure many will be self acclaimed no doubt, maybe some deep digging one may find just how expert they really are.

That is pretty much standard practice in the scientific world.  It's called peer review, not just of your work, but what else you have written, who pays you, what your motives are, who your links are etc

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3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Well we now have the situation with the likes of Equi-ed that "so called experts" now have the opportunity to get dodgy non-quality assured qualifications that make the "so called experts" qualified!  I'm sure if you pitched up to the unitiated with a 6 month Diploma in Bit and Bridle selection/management you could command a fairly hefty fee!

Stripe- did you have anything to confirm that EquiEd has government funding in New Zealand? When Becks Naorn participates in learning, and any funding is made by TEC or the government, this joint must be disbanded now. You do not want such an operation running in Aotearoa. In case you have the info, leave the link. Individuals must have a channel with which to complain and seek an accountability.

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18 minutes ago, Steven B said:

Stripe- did you have anything to confirm that EquiEd has government funding in New Zealand? When Becks Naorn participates in learning, and any funding is made by TEC or the government, this joint must be disbanded now. You do not want such an operation running in Aotearoa. In case you have the info, leave the link. Individuals must have a channel with which to complain and seek an accountability.

Some very good questions.  I haven't researched the NZ education connection.  However I note that Equi-ed refer to NZ being a location on their website, social media and other communications.

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On 10/13/2025 at 12:48 PM, Chief Stipe said:

Some very good questions.  I haven't researched the NZ education connection.  However I note that Equi-ed refer to NZ being a location on their website, social media and other communications.

Equi Ed, Straight Outta the Thoroughbred Chat Page. Have been doing a squiz at the Thoroughbred chat page and saw how Equi Ed sneaked their shonky arrangement into New Zealand. It is not merely a bad appearance; it is a complete stitch-up. They have done a Three-Day Bimbo Course 2024 in fake anatomy, and it is all smoke and mirrors. The Flyer flyer for the Two Day Bimbo Course In Scotland boasts that it is appropriate for vets and vet nurses, and this makes Becks Nairn appear to have some sort of qualification. But the Equi Ed website? No vets. No vet nurses. No oversight. Branding mere fluff and a wink to the gullible. It is a time-tested trick: insert the terms of vet and vet nurses and make it appear to be official, and hope that nobody reads the fine print and collects the money.

Be beside actual professionals, sound good, and wish that no one questions. Equi Ed is giving this the gospel treatment-standing Becks up so she can act out being a Bimbo Vet as the cash continues to come in. I dare not say so, but the so-called pretty teacher is like a box-shaped bimbo with legs. It is not merely dodgy, it is regulatory rotty disguised as empowerment. And it is taking place right in our noses. The too-good place in New Zealand is playing host to this anatomy cosplay circus. Time to declare it a cash grab with no qualifications, no investigation and a lot of smoke. What the hell is Education coming to these days? Dodgy Educators with Bimbo Teachers with no qualifications

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