1700m Starts Ashburton Tomorrow?

[the galah]

4 hours ago, Gammalite said:

and yet you talk about them like Brodie these days . that they're all rubbish and should be shut down with so few horse left racing ?? they're all due for retirement . They've all Served the industry THEIR WHole Lives and at the Very Top level .  I've seen Barry winning Miracle Miles even lol. Yet this site Shows NO APPRECIATION of their magnificent achievements and wants them shown the door ? because the South Island is Better quality racing ? lol. 😅😉

a lovely send off for the absolute world champions of the sport. piss off Tony H. south Island is better. they still have standing starts and 15 horse fields . what quality that is for modern times lol. 😂  no room for you old mate .😁  sorry Galah , just a bit of 'Gamma' sarcasm to try and be cheery lol😋

 

i don't mind a bit of sarcasm. .

only thing is,you have said many times that you belive the first pararaph.

you are consistent.Always,focusing on the desparate plight of harness racings rich and famous,worried about where they may get their next meal from if the north island stakes were to be cut, or hrnz was to say,no more 5 horse fields. You've got me feeling sorry for them as well. I will put in a kind word if is see them at the foodbank next week and will drop and email to brad steele and voice my support for more 3 horse fields and 50,000 series,whatever they call them. 

theres my bit of sarcasm.

i'll be honest like you gamma. 

i don't give a second thought to just how tough it could be for harness racings  rich and famous. Why. Because they are rich and famous.

i care far more about the battlers and the small timers who have also spent their lifetimes dedicated to the same industry and haven't the wealth or had success to any great level,but kept plugging away because of their love for the sport and the horse.

4 hours ago, Gammalite said:

good on ATC still putting stuff on for those wonderful horsemen I say. should be applauded. 

 

 

yeah,great stuff ATC. eroding their asset base by half a million a month for the last couple of years is something to really applaud. Well done ATC.

Oh and well done cambridge.they know how to dig themselves into a huge financial hole as well. Well done to them.

And well done hrnz. You know how to pick the best run clubs to throw the industries financial resources at. Come in atc and cambridge. 

Edited 3 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

44 minutes ago, the galah said:

i don't give a second thought to just how tough it could be for harness racings  rich and famous. Why. Because they are rich and famous.

i care far more about the battlers and the small timers who have also spent their lifetimes dedicated to the same industry and haven't the wealth or had success to any great level,but kept plugging away because of their love for the sport and the horse.

I know what you're saying. But really with the money they pour in (buying yearlings and that ) I can only support the rich and famous , as much as the battler. I hope they all get a win in the end. not many of them actually return a profit in the end , but have fun racing a few . afterall it is a sport and is about enjoyment as well as money.

The quality of the horsepeople in the Nrth Island is off the scale high. Only a small band left and people like Tony Herlihy are the most humble wonderful people I have ever met. I am glad they put races on for him still in his twilight years . sure they're not battlers (any of those trainers left) but HOW good For the Sport have they been Over the years.

Just amazing really. I love watching the NZ trotting still, and those bloes. Probably the saddest silly thing I do is seeing how you have given up on em' (after being really supportive up to a couple of years ago ) but Brodster has weakened you into his Bag everyone (ATC, Entain, HRNZ, North Island ) narrative , when really the product being produced is >

STILL WORLD CLASS , and you can't see it . Bring on the next Cambridge night of Champions I say !! who doesn't love seeing the best go round ?  everyone except me it seems lol 😅😂🤣  never mind. we all have faults lol. 

[Brodie]

30 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

I know what you're saying. But really with the money they pour in (buying yearlings and that ) I can only support the rich and famous , as much as the battler. I hope they all get a win in the end. not many of them actually return a profit in the end , but have fun racing a few . afterall it is a sport and is about enjoyment as well as money.

The quality of the horsepeople in the Nrth Island is off the scale high. Only a small band left and people like Tony Herlihy are the most humble wonderful people I have ever met. I am glad they put races on for him still in his twilight years . sure they're not battlers (any of those trainers left) but HOW good For the Sport have they been Over the years.

Just amazing really. I love watching the NZ trotting still, and those bloes. Probably the saddest silly thing I do is seeing how you have given up on em' (after being really supportive up to a couple of years ago ) but Brodster has weakened you into his Bag everyone (ATC, Entain, HRNZ, North Island ) narrative , when really the product being produced is >

STILL WORLD CLASS , and you can't see it . Bring on the next Cambridge night of Champions I say !! who doesn't love seeing the best go round ?  everyone except me it seems lol 😅😂🤣  never mind. we all have faults lol. 

Gamma, to be fair I do not believe that there would be too many harness enthusiasts that would be happy with the decisions that have been made by the four parties you mentioned?

Brodie is just pointing out fact, that you could not defend!

ATC, absolute incompetency

Entain, self interest only and will pull the plug in 2 years, racing profit not what they require and poor decisions being made. 

HRNZ, no comment needed

North Island harness - cot case!

Gamma, all very sad but just the reality, snd things need to change for the sake of the long term racing.

Hopefully I am totally wrong but I havent spoken to a single person who thinks things are going in the right direction.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Brodie

[the galah]

39 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

I know what you're saying. But really with the money they pour in (buying yearlings and that ) I can only support the rich and famous , as much as the battler. I hope they all get a win in the end. not many of them actually return a profit in the end , but have fun racing a few . afterall it is a sport and is about enjoyment as well as money.

The quality of the horsepeople in the Nrth Island is off the scale high. Only a small band left and people like Tony Herlihy are the most humble wonderful people I have ever met. I am glad they put races on for him still in his twilight years . sure they're not battlers (any of those trainers left) but HOW good For the Sport have they been Over the years.

Just amazing really. I love watching the NZ trotting still, and those bloes. Probably the saddest silly thing I do is seeing how you have given up on em' (after being really supportive up to a couple of years ago ) but Brodster has weakened you into his Bag everyone (ATC, Entain, HRNZ, North Island ) narrative , when really the product being produced is >

STILL WORLD CLASS , and you can't see it . Bring on the next Cambridge night of Champions I say !! who doesn't love seeing the best go round ?  everyone except me it seems lol 😅😂🤣  never mind. we all have faults lol. 

i bag hrnz's current financial management team.

i was once in a co-op and it used to be well run.Then people in charge changed,others retired and things started going off the rails.So i spoke up at meetings and pointed out some obvious truths about finacial matters. e.g. i wanted them to put systems in place to ensure every $ was accounted for,in particular around honesty.. management said,what are you on about . I said,why can't you do the maths at  meetings . in the end i got tired of it,,so just made sure the office  credited my account with every last $ i was due. .Well ,guess what,turned out i was right and the company eventually admitted  $100,000 of shareholders money went into the ether.i was the only one not effected .That is differetn to anything hrnz is doing,no dishonesty at hrnz i assume,,but the same in that sometimes things are  pretty obvious. But people always choose to see only what benefits themselves short term  and ignore the  self harm they are doing by refusing to listen to common sense voices. What i learnt was,well all you can do is put your opinion forward ,but it doesn't change that people always prioritise self interest.

its just the way the world works.

harness racings no different. everyone is just trying to do whats best for themselves. But hrnz leadership should be there to do whats best for everyone,not whats best for their mates and the people or clubs who have the influence.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

12 minutes ago, the galah said:

but the same in that sometimes things are  pretty obvious. But people always choose to see only what benefits themselves short term  and ignore the  self harm they are doing by refusing to listen to common sense voices. What i learnt was,well all you can do is put your opinion forward ,but it doesn't change that people always prioritise self interest.

its just the way the world works.

I spose you're right , but companies All look to try and grab as many self interest bucks they can, and Exactly as you say , that's how the world Works.

I find the last 3 years harness racing quite entertaining (Nz harness) I guess because of the New races and the Aussie involvement which has been outstanding. You got to see Swayzee and Just Believe and Keayang Zahara. some of the best ever. has been fabulous to say the least. 

but I was happy for the locals too, and to see the Golden Gait series at Auckland past 2 years, and those $60k races the other day for under $5,000 fee stallions , Run and Won by your 'Battlers' too at Ashburton !!  but you guys Still weren't happy with HRNZ doing that?.  So I guess that prioritized Self Interest somehow as well. Oh well . At least they tried to look after the Battler. was a good days racing and many not Rich and Famous got a quid. so it worked fine. kiwi Ingenuity strikes again. 

[PeterLambFan]

38 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Gamma, to be fair I do not believe that there would be too many harness enthusiasts that would be happy with the decisions that have been made by the four parties you mentioned?

Brodie is just pointing out fact, that you could not defend!

ATC, absolute incompetency

Entain, self interest only and will pull the plug in 2 years, racing profit not what they require and poor decisions being made. 

HRNZ, no comment needed

North Island harness - cot case!

Gamma, all very sad but just the reality, snd things need to change for the sake of the long term racing.

Hopefully I am totally wrong but I havent spoken to a single person who thinks things are going in the right direction.

 

 

5) The out the gate boys were allowed on for whatever amount they want and are now in profit land.