Fred Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Retired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 Apprentice Billy Pinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Wirimu Pinn, retired! Why he’s only a kid? Has something gone wrong? Too heavy? What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Attitude issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimbu Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Assuming that this is confirmed as being true I would not be surprised to see him retire/return a few times over the next 10-15 years. He's a talented rider, but like others before him who have blessed with that talent, it seems that he does not (yet) have the maturity & temperament to cope with the ups and downs of a bloody tough game. If/when he figures out that self-control and dedication are worth all the effort then the industry (if it is still alive) will welcome his return to the riding ranks. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: Attitude issues What a shame; he has the potential to do the Michael Walker thing...if he wants an easy ride to the top, he's picked the wrong game. Unless he's a natural lightweight, he's probably going to get too heavy too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It was a shocking display of Careless riding last week that got him 16 days Should have been improper at the very least... Angled into the horse outside then used his elbow to keep himself there... How they only give him 'Careless is anyone's guess Big Red wasn't happy and probably gave him a stir up post race... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 no surprise at all hes not learning and al wouldnt put up with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 As Billy says " put me on a pedestal" Thanks media... YOUNG GUN APPRENTICE QUITS RACING February 12, 2019 Promising apprentice jockey Wiremu Pinn has decided to quit riding Trish Dunell Highly talented Taranaki apprentice Wiremu Pinn has walked away from a potentially exciting career in the saddle. The 20-year-old, who successfully competed at the Barfoot & Thompson Jockeys’ World Cup meeting at Ellerslie last December as part of the winning Young Guns squad, has decided to end his apprenticeship. He was found guilty of serious careless riding aboard Misha’s Star at New Plymouth earlier this month and incurred a 16-day suspension, ruling him out until after racing on Thursday, February 28. But Pinn said he won’t be back riding and he doesn’t blame the suspension as the main reason for his decision to turn his back on racing. “I just got sick of it and was not enjoying it. I was doing stupid things and making bad decisions,’’ he said. “I was getting frustrated real quick and I know I need to mature a bit more.” Pinn left his employer, New Plymouth trainer Allan Sharrock, after the local meeting and has taken a job working on a dairy farm near Rotorua. Pinn’s decision has left Sharrock stunned and disappointed. ‘’He just left without saying a word and it took eight days for him to contact me, but at least he’s done that now,’’ Sharrock said. “He has walked away from his employment and I am bitterly disappointed, not only for me but also everyone who has tried to help him. But it’s his decision.” Sharrock had developed Pinn into a most promising apprentice giving the young rider a winning double on his first day riding at New Plymouth in May last year, including a successful debut mount on London Express. Pinn went on to win again on his second day’s riding then picked up a treble at Trentham the following weekend and rode 11 winners by the end of last season. He has ridden a total of 32 winners and is fourth equal leading apprentice in the country. His form resulted in his invitation to compete at the Barfoot & Thompson Jockeys’ World Cup meeting and he measured up when successful on Sacred Day. But all the success and the pressure which goes with it has been too much for Pinn. ‘’When I got all those winners early on I was put on a pedestal and I just didn’t handle the pressure,’’ Pinn said. ‘’I’d never felt that pressure before. Coming straight from South Auckland I’ve only had the two jobs and jumped straight into such a professional game.’’ Pinn began his apprenticeship with Matamata’s Te Akau Racing Stables and showed immediate talent, but behavioural issues ended that stint. With the support of National Riding Mentor, former champion jockey Noel Harris, he was given a second chance when sent to Sharrock. Pinn appreciates the help Harris and others have given him and Harris acknowledges the pressure put on young apprentices. ‘’It’s not for the faint-hearted, more so with all the social media today,’’ Harris said. “With all the expectations it can put 10 years on you. But the pressure is part and parcel with riding. Some handle it and some don’t. If they can handle it and do well, they can earn good money and make a good living. “I always suggest they take a break and reassess everything before making the decision to quit. But at the end of the day it’s Wiremu’s decision.’’ History shows some apprentices have quit and made successful comebacks, but for now Pinn, although a natural lightweight and seemingly gifted young rider, is adamant being an apprentice jockey is not for him. ‘’I want to try something new,’’ he said. - Save Share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Well actually Thomaas I do recall you give him a couple of serves on social media at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) And that alone would be enough for the young bugger to get out...…. having seen what THE PRINCESS looked like after he served her. Edited February 12, 2019 by The Diceman's Been 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Well actually Thomaas I do recall you give him a couple of serves on social media at times. Wow did he really give this young kid a serve on social media. They not need idiots like him doing that as it is hard enough with their job let alone idiots who know absolutely nothing about racing having digs at them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Well actually Thomaas I do recall you give him a couple of serves on social media at times. Actually I gave the media a serve for "putting him on a pedestal"...his words Billy this billy that...the next best kid to My Cool Walker...who himself imploded with the hype of Tony Lee and his cohorts... Seen it all before... Weatherely was the standard...humble, no behavioural issues...straight to Sydney Some come from rough family backgrounds in this game though An Apprentice school along the lines of the Sth African one is needed here....ideal for some boys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It’s part and parcel of the game nowadays, not just in racing but whenever someone is in the public eye. If you can’t handle it then just don’t read it, and I think it’s a bit of a cop out to blame others for his obvious behavioural issues that had been going on a long time before we had even heard his name. But good luck to him in his new chosen career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) Probably the most maturity/insight/self-awareness he's shown the whole time is to be found in some of those quotes in the article above (if they are indeed what he said). I am pleased to read he has gone to another job (albeit one that I doubt was brim-ful of inherent attraction to the lad - so probably more a case of "running from" than "running to"). Good luck to him though. Hope he keeps himself afloat & with some sort of moral compass as he goes on ... we have enough lost souls who are off the rails in this country as it is .. All the best Wiremu (beautiful name) or Billy - or whatever it is that you wish to be known as. You have the ability to be both good and great. But the choice to be so is entirely yours. Jess Edited February 12, 2019 by jess 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Nice thoughts Jess. I hope he comes back to racing. The lad has real talent. I think he understands horses as most good riders do. A far better option than dairy farming. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Wouldn't mind managing him "when" he returns. Has talent, looks a natural light weight and with age will come maturity both on and off the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 hours ago, jess said: Probably the most maturity/insight/self-awareness he's shown the whole time is to be found in some of those quotes in the article above (if they are indeed what he said). I am pleased to read he has gone to another job (albeit one that I doubt was brim-ful of inherent attraction to the lad - so probably more a case of "running from" than "running to"). Good luck to him though. Hope he keeps himself afloat & with some sort of moral compass as he goes on ... we have enough lost souls who are off the rails in this country as it is .. All the best Wiremu (beautiful name) or Billy - or whatever it is that you wish to be known as. You have the ability to be both good and great. But the choice to be so is entirely yours. Jess perfectly said, Jess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 12/02/2019 at 8:44 PM, jess said: Probably the most maturity/insight/self-awareness he's shown the whole time is to be found in some of those quotes in the article above (if they are indeed what he said). I am pleased to read he has gone to another job (albeit one that I doubt was brim-ful of inherent attraction to the lad - so probably more a case of "running from" than "running to"). Good luck to him though. Hope he keeps himself afloat & with some sort of moral compass as he goes on ... we have enough lost souls who are off the rails in this country as it is .. All the best Wiremu (beautiful name) or Billy - or whatever it is that you wish to be known as. You have the ability to be both good and great. But the choice to be so is entirely yours. Jess Well said Jess. and Billy the kid is beter off as far away from A Sharrock as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Ashley said: Well said Jess. and Billy the kid is beter off as far away from A Sharrock as possible. Don't know the man Ashley - just the public persona - the impressions I have got from his utterances/attitude/demeanor. Of course it looked bad on the lad's part when he was said by his employer to have left without a word - but I reserve judgement on the young man as I don't know the full story. And stories, as we know, often have two sides to them. J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 hours ago, jess said: Don't know the man Ashley - just the public persona - the impressions I have got from his utterances/attitude/demeanor. Of course it looked bad on the lad's part when he was said by his employer to have left without a word - but I reserve judgement on the young man as I don't know the full story. And stories, as we know, often have two sides to them. J. Knowing what I do off the man as a local Jess I think it reflects just as bad on A Sharrock as it does on W Pinn. As you say there are two sides to every strory and maybe Billy will have one to tell one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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