Thomass Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Was supposed to have a Barrier Blanket applied... Was left off The reason?? Remembering the RIU coverts TRANSPARENCY...yea na "the BB was left off...and the RIU accepted the Barrier Staff's reason" WTF?? The horse lost 2/ L at the start...was further crowded due to being slow... ...and the reason is WITHELD from Punters What a joke!! But that's what you expect from the RIU...remember they withhold info on any Positive Swabs for 6 months..until the JCA inquiry is over... No other country in the World does this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Are you sure that the reason they wanted a barrier blanket wasn't to make sure he was one of the last loaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Yes, moves are afoot to prevent that particular practice...which may not have been the case in this incident of course. You would assume that RIU would know if that WAS the case, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Reefton said: Are you sure that the reason they wanted a barrier blanket wasn't to make sure he was one of the last loaded? There's always been the suspicion some trainers do that here... And as Freda said it's high time we joined Australia in getting rid of that unfairness.. Either educate your horses properly or don't bother showing up... But that's not the point...this horse had the BB on for its last 6 starts... ...then for the RIU to simply SUPPRESS the reason why the gear wasn't put on... ...is not on... btw...It was so SUPPRESSED this info didn't come out until days later..after some eagle eyed Punter spotted it...I wonder who that was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Freda said: Yes, moves are afoot to prevent that particular practice...which may not have been the case in this incident of course. You would assume that RIU would know if that WAS the case, but.... For a while they were not being loaded last but it seems to be the practice again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 And instead of making a major statement about vital gear being left off in a G1 race ...where IAT was SLOW out!! They slipped it virtually unseen into the 'miscellaneous' page the next week Race 9 - Vodafone NZ Derby IN A TWINKLING (G Boss) - The starter was reprimanded after Stewards became aware that the barrier blanket which was an item of notified gear had not been placed on the gelding. The starter’s explanation for this omission was noted. FFS...the Stewards "became aware" So the starter tried to hide the fact the BB had been left off...and him and his assistant clean forgot to look on the gear sheet?? And wtf was the explanation?? RIU = TRANSPARENCY Yea NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 So Godber gets asked the question today on the wireless...thanks for that question whoever yous is... "ahhhhh mmmmmm aaahhhh...really...ahhhahhh...oh f me...it's prolly the owner requested it...yea that" f me...no Mike Your RIU SUPPRESSED the reason why...that's what...nothing to do with the f in Owners Im getting the impression Te Akow are MASSIVELY pissed about this.... ...and rightfully so...why the Starter only got a reprimand...and not a FINE that trainers get is hopless But what's really hopeless is the SUPPRESSION and ZERO TRANSPARENCY of the RIU RIU = ZERO TRANSPARENCY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 goober wouldn't know the difference between a barrier blanket and an electric blanket! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 That could be it! Trev and Scooter could have detected an electric current had been applied to said blanky... They should be congratulated not reprimanded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 So I'm told TE AKAU don't want to be seen criticising anyone in the industry... Its good psychology really... Jealousy is a hoary old chestnut in Racing... "who do they think they are" etc...So forgetting that...although I'm betting they'll be fuming...especially being SLOW OUT ..it's simply unacceptable for the Feds to be suppressing the reason the Barrier Boys f'd up ..in the BIGGEST race of the season...yes a big field...but their SYSTEMS SHOULD COPE with anything thrown at them.. So Godber...what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Mr Godber has given himself a week to come uo with an answer. In the absence of anything more compelling, it's probably going to be; "They forgot." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 So Te Akau have issued a tweet... "The report states it was human error as we understand." So nothing controversial in that statement...understandable Whats more it was the ONLY horse in the field with a BB to start... Being a first time Jock...Bossy was oblivious to its gear obviously... The horse is seen being happily led into the stall SANS BLANKY... It then lays into the right hand side of the barrier...and bounds as the gates open...settling 13th instead of handy as it was the previous start so it wasn't a human error wrt it falling off or lack of being hooked up Simply an INEXCUSABLE Human Error by the Barrier Boys... no fine, no explanation...just a welly welly hard wist slap...and turn up again next week boys you've got a Job for life... ...any statement from the ARC or RIU making sure the Protocols change so that it never happens again?? yea na fair dinkum AMATUER HOUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 My understanding - and only that - is that any necessary 'treatment' or gear required is on the starter's sheet. If that is in fact correct, it is very likely that stipes forgot to notify the starter, or make sure the addition was noted. Has happened to one of mine, starter was all set to carry the can, but when I rang him to discuss the 'blue' he confirmed that in fact the horse's requirements weren't added to his sheet. As it was the first time the horse had raced out of his district, the fault was pretty clear. Horse hurt and scratched. No one offered to pay the acceptance fee, or the vet bill though...or the transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 If that was the case they wouldn't have "reprimanded" him would they...and should have reprimanded themselves! Starter to obtain at the start of the day. The Starter shall obtain the following: - Official racebook - Starters Card. The Starters Card is to include the following details: Name of the horse, Number of horse Name of jockey, Draw of horse taking into account scratchings at official scratching time Abbreviated comments on horse’s pre-race behaviour/barrier manners/specific requirements. - Scratchings/rider changes received after printing of the Starters Card. The Starters Report must be updated upon receipt of these changes. - The official race time. The Starter’s watch (and those of all other relevant staff) should be synchronised with the time shown on the on- course Teletext racing system. - A two-way radio or walkie talkie allowing direct contact with the Stipendiary Stewards and club staff. The Starter shall ensure they have a cell-phone available as a back-up. - Brands and Marking Report, if the Starter carries out these duties. Besides that...they have a starters card they organise with all information listed...and this horse was 6 times Barrier Blanketed Current Starter’s Information (Sample) 2 Hurricane Jack (NZ) 2003 3 Justahula (NZ) 2004 3 Reliance Lass (NZ) 2005 3 Anissina (NZ) 2003 3 Colonel Bill (NZ) 2005 4 New Yorker (NZ) 2003 4 Ooblix (NZ) 2003 4 Missdaflight (NZ) 2004 6 Colliseum (NZ) 2002 6 Colliseum (NZ) 2002 6 Colliseum (NZ) 2002 6 Nobel (NZ) 2002 6 Van Der Merwe (NZ) 2004 6 Missdaflight (NZ) 2004 6 Adelariva (NZ) 2002 6 Josie Rules (NZ) 2004 7 Lagerfeld (NZ) 2003 8 Le Thunder (NZ) 2003 9 Lady Classique (NZ) 2003 9 Tenshi (NZ) 2002 10 Lil' Monster (NZ) 2001 10 Ooblix (NZ) 2003 COMMENT Barred after rearing over backwards in stall-cleared to race after 2 trials. Man up Slow to load-load early. Reluctant to load-difficult in gates-man up. Man up. Difficult to load- held up start-straps up. Early-led to start-load early, slow to load. Blindfold to load-remove just prior to jump-Barrier blanket. Trainer to supply bum rope to load. Oamaru-Refused to load-late scratched-to trial. Barrier manners-slow to load -held up start-warning-SC. Early to start.Rug Blindfold to load-remove just prior to jump-Barrier blanket. Kicks-Birdcage and start area. Fractious in gates-man up. Led to start. Led to start. Led to start. Man up-fractious in gates. Led to start. Early-led to start-load early, slow to load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 The only thing I can think of...for an EXCUSE..for being totally incompetent... ...and not having proper protocols in place...so various 'distractions' aren't used as EXCUSES...is The neddy Nebo was attempting to lay down...and the boys backed it out under the instruction of the Starter...that was the only thing happening... The thing that screws that excuse is that IN A TWINKLING goes into the barrier sans Blanky... BEFORE Nebo goes off... BB's are always applied before neddys go into the barrier... So b/s to that This is THE major race of the season...and the Barrier Boys Starting Protocols FAILED... and then the RIU SUPPRESSED the reason why the Barrier Boys SCREWED the thing up... Sneakily hiding it away in a miscellaneous report... I wouldn't be surprised if the Auckland Racing Club...who EMPLOYEES these boys... ..didn't know about it...until I raised it What a GIANT SUPPRESSED f up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 So as usual I'm getting pm's by the thousands... peeps wanting to remain anon...but spilling the beans... Turns out the Starter apologised to Jammie Richards and said "yea human error Jammie...but what if that Nebo neddy had off bin yours..you would off wanted me to devote the entire Barrier crew to calming it down...and stuff the blanket...ok"? Now that's verbatim And get this... Even though the Auckland Racing Club EMPLOYEE the starters... HQ didn't even realise the Starting crew had stuffed up the GEAR administration... of ONE F IN BLANKET!!!...oh but they remembered to take the ear covers off the winner Big ups for that...imagine if they'd let CP go around sans hearing?? So not only did the RIU SUPPRESS the reasons behind the total F UP.. They didn't think the Starters employers should know about it WHat the flaming f is that about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Topic done to death. We get your point Thomaas. Move on and keep us posted on next years Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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