Cheats onion rings Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Als apprentice. Greyortovitch. Ebby raptor. Smash hurricane. Aquiver. Okuku billy. RIP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Bloody appalling. Alot at Addington. Any reason for this or just unlucky racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheats onion rings Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Als apprentice apparently fracture wrist. Totally salvageable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Also Ben vane King reported euthanized on Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Add Homebush Conner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Still yet to find out whether Goldstar Hudson is still alive. He was sent to the dog farmers at Homebush for advanced training in chasing, and we all know what that entails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheats onion rings Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Ditch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Oh that will be dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwigreys Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cheats onion rings said: Als apprentice apparently fracture wrist. Totally salvageable I disagree, I haven’t seen one fixed wrist that was either good for racing again or beneficial for the dog in the long term physically or mentally 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cheats onion rings said: Als apprentice apparently fracture wrist. Totally salvageable How?? Have you seen or experienced a successful wrist break be saved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiwigreys said: I disagree, I haven’t seen one fixed wrist that was either good for racing again or beneficial for the dog in the long term physically or mentally You haven't raced many dogs than. Either that or you have not treated the injury very well. I've seen quite a few over the years come back and be very successful in bigger races. I've always believed a dog can be healed from any injury if it's treated and maintained correctly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwigreys Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: You haven't raced many dogs than. Either that or you have not treated the injury very well. I've seen quite a few over the years come back and be very successful in bigger races. I've always believed a dog can be healed from any injury if it's treated and maintained correctly I don’t know, I’ve seen enough to know when a joint feels like a sock full of gravel there isn’t much you can do, same with a hock, a simple break or fracture is easy to fix Then there’s the quality of life after retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 hours ago, BitofaLegend said: You haven't raced many dogs than. Either that or you have not treated the injury very well. I've seen quite a few over the years come back and be very successful in bigger races. I've always believed a dog can be healed from any injury if it's treated and maintained correctly Can you tell us who these dogs are that broke wrists and hocks and come back and been very successful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Wrist injuries are the worst to deal with in the racing Greyhound. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Your right john but he wont be able to tell me what dogs have come back and been successful and in big races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I remember reading a book written by George Curtis famous English Greyhound trainer. He was 3 times national champion trainer UK. Also trainer of the legendary Bally Reagon Bob. One thing that always stood out in my mind from reading the book was his opinion on what was the worst injury in racing Grehounds. He said without doubt, wrist injuries, and in his opinion wrist sprains can effectively put a dog out for 6 months. They take a long time to heal, and in many cases end racing careers. And thats just sprains, ligament damage etc never mind fractures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Correction, that should be Ballyregon Bob. World champion Greyhound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I can only recall one dog ever that I've seen come back never successfully recover from a broken hock. 99% of dogs can be saved though. Its been a very rare occurrence that I've seen where there was no chance of saving a dog. Id disagree with anyone who says dogs need to be put down because of injuries until the injury has been under an x-ray and properly examined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischief managed Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Jacob said: I can only recall one dog ever that I've seen come back never successfully recover from a broken hock. 99% of dogs can be saved though. Its been a very rare occurrence that I've seen where there was no chance of saving a dog. Id disagree with anyone who says dogs need to be put down because of injuries until the injury has been under an x-ray and properly examined. Although I agree and disagree with parts of this statement. A compound fracture to me is extremely painful, the break is clear and it's a fair call to make this decision. But other factors play into a decision when putting dogs down, will it be a pet, breeding etc. Are other factors at play? Suitability for rehoming? Cost of injury repair. I was in this situation recently, broken hock, plates and pins not suitable, only surgical option (through a specialist) was arthodesis. ( plating the whole hock to be fused together and never use again). Quoted price for surgery, 6k plus 12 weeks recovery and regular xrays to check healing speed. This was not feasible to anyone getting paid on only race earnings while covering a team of dogs. On 13/04/2019 at 9:08 PM, BitofaLegend said: You haven't raced many dogs than. Either that or you have not treated the injury very well. I've seen quite a few over the years come back and be very successful in bigger races. I've always believed a dog can be healed from any injury if it's treated and maintained correctly Your making it sound easy to return a dog with a genuine wrist break, it's not. Greyhounds carry 70% of their body weight in their front legs. That's a lot of, not only weight but force while running to carry through a wrist break. I've had many retire to less In the wrist/stopper than genuine break. In fact give me a hock or gracilis any day over a wrist injury. Featuring mingming my now 3 legged house pet Edited April 15, 2019 by Mischief managed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes Yes No Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 We had Rodriguez who broke his before he ever raced , he had 113 starts for 18 wins 21 2nds and 23 3rds so to say it’s not successful is not quite correct. Unfortunately not all work out as successfully as that but you’ve got to try , he’s still running around the house happy as . Where lucky we have a fantastic vet makes a huge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischief managed Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Yes Yes No said: We had Rodriguez who broke his before he ever raced , he had 113 starts for 18 wins 21 2nds and 23 3rds so to say it’s not successful is not quite correct. Unfortunately not all work out as successfully as that but you’ve got to try , he’s still running around the house happy as . Where lucky we have a fantastic vet makes a huge difference Nicey spicey broke front leg in two spots at 4 months old. I'm not saying it's impossible, but definitely more difficult with a dog thats already racing and isnt a young, pre-race dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 16/04/2019 at 9:03 AM, Mischief managed said: Although I agree and disagree with parts of this statement. A compound fracture to me is extremely painful, the break is clear and it's a fair call to make this decision. But other factors play into a decision when putting dogs down, will it be a pet, breeding etc. Are other factors at play? Suitability for rehoming? Cost of injury repair. I was in this situation recently, broken hock, plates and pins not suitable, only surgical option (through a specialist) was arthodesis. ( plating the whole hock to be fused together and never use again). Quoted price for surgery, 6k plus 12 weeks recovery and regular xrays to check healing speed. This was not feasible to anyone getting paid on only race earnings while covering a team of dogs. Your making it sound easy to return a dog with a genuine wrist break, it's not. Greyhounds carry 70% of their body weight in their front legs. That's a lot of, not only weight but force while running to carry through a wrist break. I've had many retire to less In the wrist/stopper than genuine break. In fact give me a hock or gracilis any day over a wrist injury. Featuring mingming my now 3 legged house pet Great that you have saved this dog. Well done to you. How is its quality of life. I did it to a chihuahua once and going back now I'm not sure I'd ever do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Wanganui today. Same trainer for all three dogs... https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/13495/stewards-report.aspx SAHARA PIPPA qualified to race in a one cup blinker and is now cleared to race wearing this item of gear. ZARA PETAL which raced in a satisfactory trial as a fill in, suffered a fractured right hock after the finish line and was humanely euthanased. ZOE JEAN (8) - checked going into the bend and fell but finished the race. Referred to the Vet and euthanised due to a carpus fracture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischief managed Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, Bob said: Great that you have saved this dog. Well done to you. How is its quality of life. I did it to a chihuahua once and going back now I'm not sure I'd ever do it again I wouldn't hesitate to do this again. She was good as gold day 2 post surgery. Doing events for GAP as my new event dog less than 2 weeks later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 That's great. We'll done to you. Hope she has a good life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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