Newmarket Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 When Quaddies first appeared, the pools were really good, and I took them most weekends. Lately pools, especially on harness, are poor. One thing that pisses me off, is the amount of carry forward money that the greedy tab fleece. If someone picks 4 winners, let them have whole amount, the inflated divs would make more punters wanting to chase them more, just like the terminating pick 6. The pools would be far better, which would result in less carry forwards. Come on tab, FFS try something new, otherwise nz quads will go the same as the piss poor place 6, treble & double pools. 3 Quote
Prankster Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Two other solutions to improve quaddie betting. Get rid of the place 6, trebles and doubles and likely quaddie pools will increase. Stop being greedy and taking the extra 6% from local stuff and commingle the pools to increase their size. 1 Quote
All The Aces Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 On 07/15/2019 at 8:29 PM, Prankster said: Two other solutions to improve quaddie betting. Get rid of the place 6, trebles and doubles and likely quaddie pools will increase. Stop being greedy and taking the extra 6% from local stuff and commingle the pools to increase their size. Why? Taking these bet types away does not mean that all the money invested in those pools will all go to investment in quaddies. If you miss the first leg of the quaddie then you can take a treble. As for place 6s you can get great dividends on this type of bet. Taking away bet types can mean a loss in financial terms to the industry. Just look at all the increase in sports options giving punters more and more choice as a way to increase turnover. What you suggest would mean the opposite. 1 Quote
Prankster Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 12 hours ago, All The Aces said: If you miss the first leg of the quaddie then you can take a treble. Wouldn't you feel like a mug making your next bet one that offers less value than the previous? 1 Quote
All The Aces Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Prankster said: Wouldn't you feel like a mug making your next bet one that offers less value than the previous? No, you would feel a mug if you didn't take the treble and the last three legs of your quaddie all won after you missed the first quaddie leg. 2 Quote
Prankster Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, All The Aces said: No, you would feel a mug if you didn't take the treble and the last three legs of your quaddie all won after you missed the first quaddie leg. What happens if you lose again? Do you go on a double? 1 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted July 17, 2019 Author Posted July 17, 2019 Maybe trebles need to be terminated too Quote
aquaman Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Trebles and double's are terrible bets as the TAB PLUNDER them with exorbitant takeouts. Because they are un comingled this gives the TAB license to rip into them. 1 Quote
Prankster Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, aquaman said: Trebles and double's are terrible bets as the TAB PLUNDER them with exorbitant takeouts. Because they are un comingled this gives the TAB license to rip into them. Quaddies on NZ races are not commingled and have the same high takeouts. Quote
Prankster Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Newmarket said: Maybe trebles need to be terminated too Trebles already are terminating pools. The pool gets evenly distributed using a countback system. Quote
Newmarket Posted July 18, 2019 Author Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Prankster said: Trebles already are terminating pools. The pool gets evenly distributed using a countback system. Is that right? I thought they were not terminating. Quote
Huey Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 14/07/2019 at 10:46 PM, Newmarket said: When Quaddies first appeared, the pools were really good, and I took them most weekends. Lately pools, especially on harness, are poor. One thing that pisses me off, is the amount of carry forward money that the greedy tab fleece. If someone picks 4 winners, let them have whole amount, the inflated divs would make more punters wanting to chase them more, just like the terminating pick 6. The pools would be far better, which would result in less carry forwards. Come on tab, FFS try something new, otherwise nz quads will go the same as the piss poor place 6, treble & double pools. I don't know why anyone would take Quaddies on the Dogs or Harness there are some seriously short priced favs that come in that just ruin the payouts. The best quaddies to go for are in the Thoroughbred code with more competitive fields especially Vic racing on Saturdays, which can be very difficult to find an anchor. 1 Quote
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