the galah Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Why does the RIU want to keep everyone in the dark when it comes to a horse returning a positive. They never declare it has happened,and even go further in spinning the story so the public remains ignorant. 1 week ago the Dickies late scratched 7 runners,and the RIU told us it was due to Cross contamination. They must think we are all dunb. Was that really the case or was it related to one of their runners returning a positive from a month earlier. I don't have an issue with them being scratched,it makes sense if they had concerns about future positives. However the way the RIU and the industry deals with these matters clearly shows they don't want anyone to know. It also leads to inferences about the stables concerned being drawn ,sometimes undeserved. To me its simple,if you hide the truth,then that means you have something to hide. The RIU are enablers and are directly responsible for the innuendo that goes on about certain stables. This thread is proof of that. Edited September 22, 2019 by the galah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, the galah said: Why does the RIU want to keep everyone in the dark when it comes to a horse returning a positive. Privacy Act and all that kind of thing? It is pretty rampant the theory of protecting the defendant's privacy. Can you post the links to all the information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Privacy Act and all that kind of thing? It is pretty rampant the theory of protecting the defendant's privacy. Can you post the links to all the information? The privacy act? Its because they don't want the bad publicity. Its just a cover up. There is no link. I'm guessing it is the Dickie runner Sertorius. We will never know because its all a secret at the moment.. The best way is to check the horses form on the website in 3 months time when they may update the race record of the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, the galah said: Was that really the case or was it related to one of their runners returning a positive from a month earlier. So they had a positive? What happened? Dickie's charged? 8 minutes ago, the galah said: I'm guessing it is the Dickie runner Sertorius. They had a positive with this horse? Why the guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: They had a positive with this horse? Why the guess? most recent winner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: So they had a positive? What happened? Dickie's charged? They had a positive with this horse? Why the guess? The hrnz website had a write up about CK spur winning on Friday. In it they said CK spur would get another promoted win because of a positive from another runner. The only time Ck spur has run 2nd recently was to Sertorius. That horse just happens to be trained by a trainer who late scratched 7 horses ,yes the whole team, with the RIU deliberately spinning it to say it resulted from cross contamination. Coincidence ,i think not. And if its not coincidence the RIU would have us believe that the supposed cross contamination happened a month after the original positive, yet somehow the dickie stable only cottons on to it being a possibility 4 weeks later after i'm guessiing just being informed of a positive. I think the result of my posting this thread will be for HRNZ to reprimand the writer of the article for letting the truth slip. Edited September 22, 2019 by the galah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) The Dickie stable released a statement on their Facebook page last week alluding to the positive swab, the horse in question and the timeline of events. They found out about the positive swab on the morning of last week's races, hence they scratched their entire team. The RIU have a policy of not releasing information about positive swabs though do seem to admit to them if asked by journalists. IE they won't make it public, but they don't deny it. Edited September 22, 2019 by Jonny Longshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, the galah said: The hrnz website had a write up about CK spur winning on Friday. In it they said CK spur would get another promoted win because of a positive from another runner. They aren't hiding the truth, they have just told the secret to all the wrong people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: The RIU have a policy of not releasing information about positive swabs though do seem to admit to them if asked by journalists. A policy without flaw ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: IE they won't make it public, but they don't deny it. Very Zen. Unless a journalist spoils the moment. 31 minutes ago, the galah said: I think the result of my posting this thread will be for HRNZ to reprimand the writer of the article for letting the truth slip. You have just exposed how limited modern thinking is if you turn out to be right. Wouldn't it be better for the people in charge to be reprimanded for letting it out and not the journalist who shouldn't know anyway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: The Dickie stable released a statement on their Facebook page last week alluding to the positive swab, the horse in question and the timeline of events. They found out about the positive swab on the morning of last week's races, hence they scratched their entire team. The RIU have a policy of not releasing information about positive swabs though do seem to admit to them if asked by journalists. IE they won't make it public, but they don't deny it. Some of us don't have facebook, or follow the dickie stable facebook page. The Dickies are obviously aware its better to be up front about it. So why did the RIU not just state the truth. The definition of "cross contamination" is the unintentional transfer of a substance. Its spin. Its not the first time the RIU have played with words when it comes to positives.. It's a deliberate policy and one which will continue to be criticized every time the truth is hidden or twisted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, the galah said: So why did the RIU not just state the truth. You can't handle the truth...you don't want the truth because deep down in places they don't talk about on trackside, you want the RIU on the case , you need them on that case. They use words like warning, cross contamination and adjourned. They use these words as the backbone of an industry defending something. You use them as a punchline. They have neither the time,or the inclination, to explain themselves to a man, who rises and sleep under the blanket of the very betting service that they provide, and then questions the manner, in which they provide it. I'd rather you just say 'thank you' and go on your way betting. Otherwise I suggest you buy a horse, and enter a race. Either way, I don't give a damn, what you think you are entitled to! Thanks, Jack N. Legend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: You can't handle the truth...you don't want the truth because deep down in places they don't talk about on trackside, you want the RIU on the case , you need them on that case. They use words like warning, cross contamination and adjourned. They use these words as the backbone of an industry defending something. You use them as a punchline. They have neither the time,or the inclination, to explain themselves to a man, who rises and sleep under the blanket of the very betting service that they provide, and then questions the manner, in which they provide it. I'd rather you just say 'thank you' and go on your way betting. Otherwise I suggest you buy a horse, and enter a race. Either way, I don't give a damn, what you think you are entitled to! Thanks, Jack N. Legend. Channelling the spirit of Jack Nicholson ??? Or have you been watching the movie "a few good men" It was a good movie. . Are you suggesting the RIU have a code name for how to silence an insubordinate like myself who asks too many questions? Did you order the "Code Red" Happy,or was it Mike gobder from the RIU?? Edited September 22, 2019 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, the galah said: Channelling the spirit of Jack Nicholson ??? Or have you been watching the movie "a few good men" It was a good movie. . Are you suggesting the RIU have a code name for how to silence an insubordinate like myself who asks too many questions? Did you order the "Code Red" Happy,or was it Mike gobder from the RIU?? I should have put a smiley face in that post as i was just generally taking the piss of the RIU etc. You said you wanted the truth. I don't think there is any truth when it comes to how they handle these cases. Look at what Johnny Longshot said. I am more likely to have a code brown when hearing how the RIU etc have conducted themselves over the years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, the galah said: Are you suggesting the RIU have a code name for how to silence an insubordinate like myself who asks too many questions? You are more likely to receive a job offer from them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 riu will be keeping everyone in the dark on this as they are busy trying to fight charges that are dropped by the court on other things pack of f...... w...... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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