Thomass Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Oh that... They say Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery And you really did that when you followed moi's Blue Print at TA Recent MAAT form back to mid weak... ...and BLINKERS ON first time on a Maiden who had previous form at TA... Both Blue Printers...it was a momentous day on the punt...as almost every day is Next time can you insert SOURCE: THOMAAS at the bottom of 'your' tips..when they're really mine thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thomass said: Oh that... They say Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery And you really did that when you followed moi's Blue Print at TA Recent MAAT form back to mid weak... ...and BLINKERS ON first time on a Maiden who had previous form at TA... Both Blue Printers...it was a momentous day on the punt...as almost every day is Next time can you insert SOURCE: THOMAAS at the bottom of 'your' tips..when they're really mine thanks If you're suggesting these selections below at Te Aroha recently, were actually yours, then I'm not surprised you claim that after the event. That's how you work. You're laughing stock. R1 #7 Iskander (TAB $31) R2 #12 One Way Street (TAB $26) R3 #5 Gus The Maverick (TAB $31) R4 #6 Ruiz (TAB $9.50) R6 #10 Miss Valencia (TAB $10) R7 #1 Conquering Kelly (TAB $7) But in fairness to those selections above, I'd certainly call that more in line with masterclass. Not one item in your flawed method was used to determine those runners. I don't do stupidity, I leave that to you. Your BP can select nearly every runner, but when they get put up, you get all uptight claiming, you don't back them all. Problem for the readers is, they only get to know which ones to back after they've won. Not before as in the selections above. Try it next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, mardigras said: Back to your boring repetitive best. What Baz and I do is called winning. What you do is called losing. You just had a different way of saying the same thing. Quite a few different ways actually. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 9:48 AM, mardigras said: If you're suggesting these selections below at Te Aroha recently, were actually yours, then I'm not surprised you claim that after the event. That's how you work. You're laughing stock. R1 #7 Iskander (TAB $31) R2 #12 One Way Street (TAB $26) R3 #5 Gus The Maverick (TAB $31) R4 #6 Ruiz (TAB $9.50) R6 #10 Miss Valencia (TAB $10) R7 #1 Conquering Kelly (TAB $7) But in fairness to those selections above, I'd certainly call that more in line with masterclass. Not one item in your flawed method was used to determine those runners. I don't do stupidity, I leave that to you. Your BP can select nearly every runner, but when they get put up, you get all uptight claiming, you don't back them all. Problem for the readers is, they only get to know which ones to back after they've won. Not before as in the selections above. Try it next time. Oh my...missed this tripe ..what's this have to do with Babby? The BP is actually FORM ANALYSIS 101...a complete and utter mystery to you and not so Curiously...Bazz... Superior MAAT races on Premier Day...agin actual race winners...back to mid weak...after running superior times in superior races... wtf knew it could be so easy? Like VALADERO on Saturday? Ive bent your lugs until they're red raw with the spanking about this AUSTRALIAN form is SUPERIOR to ours..as Nth Island form is to Sth...as Japan form is to all Sth Hemisphere form... V's superior Sydney City form was recent...Pitty chucked the Blinkers On and along with the change of scenery it was like a new horse after arriving here...very unlucky 6 days previously...on the quick back up...another of moi's niches WTF knew Sydney City form is superior and that horses ain't robots and enjoy a CHANGE of scenery...and gear?? wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Thomass said: ..what's this have to do with Babby? I have no idea, but you wrote (in this thread) about what you claimed I did at Te Aroha. So I clarified exactly what I did and what I didn't do. So you brought it up even though it had nothing to do with the thread, and I responded - and then you are so stupid, you then ask what it has to do with the topic. Don't write crap next time and I won't have to fill in the blanks. the rest of your post was dealt with on Saturday and Sunday on a different channel. Very enlightening it has been too. Thanks. BP 101 is going well. I prefer the letter M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, mardigras said: Thanks. BP 101 is going well. I prefer the letter M. I and others, particularly enjoyed Magic Incanto yesterday. Go the 'M' horses! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Thomass said: Like VALADERO on Saturday? Ive bent your lugs until they're red raw with the spanking about this AUSTRALIAN form is SUPERIOR to ours..as Nth Island form is to Sth...as Japan form is to all Sth Hemisphere form... V's superior Sydney City form was recent...Pitty chucked the Blinkers On and along with the change of scenery it was like a new horse after arriving here...very unlucky 6 days previously...on the quick back up...another of moi's niches You can't even get your story right. Veladero had been racing with Blinkers On in Oz. Shame you had to put the extra 20% on when he started racing in NZ purely because you're ignorant - eh Mr Fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 We all know you CANT read but you're taking the piss with this ...surely? I said Blinkers On...not First time....it hadn't raced in Blinkers in its last 5 starts at least...before coming here... The oustanding 3rd on unsuitable ground 6 starts ago.. was behind STAR OF THE SEAS... ...who, a few starts later finished 4th in the G2 Tramway and 3rd in the G1 Epsom Thats winning form back to the Sth Island with a number of gear changes Pitty recognised he needed... Even Bazz could see Sydney City form like that was OUTSTANDING The other reason these Aus superior form horses are so under bet is due to the fact they've not built up a following over here... ORAKEI OVERLORD being another case in point... Dont EVER query me on Gear again... ...you're completely at sea with anything to do with form analysis let alone gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Thomass said: We all know you CANT read but you're taking the piss with this ...surely? I said Blinkers On...not First time....it hadn't raced in Blinkers in its last 5 starts at least...before coming here... It didn't have blinkers on First time, again or anything. It's last thirty starts in Oz were with blinkers before coming to NZ. Here is the last race it had in Oz. Ran last. It is the horse that is last in this photo. Not only are you a fraud, you're completely thick as well. Go away and stop being a total fuckwit. Edited November 11, 2019 by mardigras 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Thomass said: Dont EVER query me on Gear again... I don't need to query you again. You've just proven how little you know and how wrong you are. Fool. Try looking at its head next time and not up your arse where your blue print is plucked from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 OH whoop de Doo.... You really are a Batchelor with no Princess wasting my time on crap like this eh? I prefer to work off the more user friendly Racing Vic site where they had no blinkers listed... ..ours of course was also inaccurate in saying Blinkers were on again... Reminder to moi...never trust websites again...and simply ignore your anal dissertations... ...the fact remains....Superior Sydney City form beats Sth Island/North Island every time... ...paste that on your ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 No, the fact remains you are thick and you are a fraud. You've got nothing worth posting for punters. Stick to your whip based topics and the poor RIU. Leave punting ideas to people with more than 1 brain cell. That counts you out. Next time, don't waste my time with your fairytales. Like your post race bullshit. Everyone on this site should know you're a fraud. The last few posts of yours simply reinforce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Fraud...pffft Thats a 'punter' who encourages others to find 'value' doing the opposite to all other punters... ...like you and Bazzo encouraging poor f'ers to find it down in a Whanganui BOG rail Total bogheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Thomass said: Fraud...pffft Thats a 'punter' who encourages others to find 'value' doing the opposite to all other punters... ...like you and Bazzo encouraging poor f'ers to find it down in a Whanganui BOG rail Total bogheads One minute you're praising barry for his skill in selecting Veladero. Then you call his behaviour fraudulent. I haven't told punters what to do outside suggesting they consider the well known view that in order to succeed at punting long term, you have to bet to value. I haven't told punters how to identify a horse is value. They have to do that themselves. Explain how you think that is fraudulent. I feel like another laugh. The difference between you and others on this site is that the others don't try and tell everyone what specific ideas they have that will make the readers money and lead them to punting success. They offer their opinion on things without adding absurd claims. But you tell readers that what you have are the keys to punting success and that they will make money following your stupid blueprint. You don't just offer opinion on what you do, you add that it will make other people money. That's fraudulent. Your opinion is your opinion. It's worthless. But when you add that following your opinion is the secret to punting wealth, that's fraudulent. It's like me telling people to back horses starting with the letter M and then saying it is the secret to punting success and is the best legal go fast. And if you follow that formula, you will make money. That would be fraudulent. Even though it is as much use as the blueprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) As I say Bazz activated the 'imitation is the greatest form of flattery' thing of moi's BP... Ive banged him until the cattle comes home that City Oz form beats Keewee form every day of the week....especially that Star of the Seas form... Even your 'speed' stats would have confirmed that recent effort was SUPERIOR form back to INFERIOR class Its THE basis of ANY intuitive form analysis... I had VELADERO running 0.4 sec faster than anything else in that field and so it proved... As for this VALUE component...it's as basic as having milk with your cornies alors...it doesn't even need mentioning ...it's just that obvious to a punter with gravitas... ...and I've mentioned many times... when I identify VALUE I increase the Stake invested commensurate with each lengthened point... To the crux...and which separates you..a Sultan of Sophistry...posting 'selections' without informing your handful of sycophants...led by Hesitheshrew...of HOW you got there.. ...but patting yourself endlessly on the back....self flagellalating yourself and fellow Sultan wee Cee....silly and moi..EDUCATING the masses on how we get to ultimate glory and riches... not Bazz's "ignore the last 3 starts" and your "do the opposite and back the rail on a H11 at Whanganui" Which you called "seeking 'value" but was just the ULTIMATE crock of shit anyone ever did hear... Edited November 11, 2019 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't do a lot of patting myself on the back. My selections speak for themselves - pre race. As to the HOW, every selection has the same HOW. It is inherent in the selection. The HOW being that the time I expect the horse to run based on its past performances, is going to result in it having a higher chance than the dividend available suggests it should have. Pretty simple. What the HOW won't have is Blinkers on makes them run faster. Or the horse is down in grade. Things that have no relationship with chance. Something your little brain can't understand. There is no relationship between the grade of race a horse ran in and its chance in a future event. It's not my fault that you can't grasp that. As to the last part about seeking VALUE. The value becomes evident because punters like you assess the impact to chance of such things far greater than they are. Thereby opening the door to a horse becoming VALUE when it otherwise wouldn't have, purely due to punters beliefs like yours. So thanks again for that. You make a horse that might have had a 10% chance at odds of $10 change to a horse paying $20 even though it's chance (if actually affected anyway) might now be 8%. Pretty simple stuff. But beyond sheep like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That's why betting on race on Melbourne Cup Day presents lots of value. You have every Ma and Pa Kettle backing numbers, the letter M, the colours and the names not to mention all of Thomaas's Blueprint followers! What Thomaas fails to understand is he constantly talks about individuals and their relative performances to themselves. Never it seems in relation to price or relative to the ability of the rest of the field!! Seems a losing formula in the long run to me. As I've said before if he is indeed successful on the punt then he must evaluate a field and the value BEFORE applying all the BS like blinkers, first time, dropping back in class (the horse doesn't know anything about class) etc. However he will never admit that he uses such techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, mardigras said: I don't do a lot of patting myself on the back. My selections speak for themselves - pre race. As to the HOW, every selection has the same HOW. It is inherent in the selection. The HOW being that the time I expect the horse to run based on its past performances, is going to result in it having a higher chance than the dividend available suggests it should have. Pretty simple. What the HOW won't have is Blinkers on makes them run faster. Or the horse is down in grade. Things that have no relationship with chance. Something your little brain can't understand. There is no relationship between the grade of race a horse ran in and its chance in a future event. It's not my fault that you can't grasp that. As to the last part about seeking VALUE. The value becomes evident because punters like you assess the impact to chance of such things far greater than they are. Thereby opening the door to a horse becoming VALUE when it otherwise wouldn't have, purely due to punters beliefs like yours. So thanks again for that. You make a horse that might have had a 10% chance at odds of $10 change to a horse paying $20 even though it's chance (if actually affected anyway) might now be 8%. Pretty simple stuff. But beyond sheep like you. Exactly...without explaining your raisin de tear...moi does and doesn't expect 1000 pats and sycophantic hesi bow wows... My tipping record stands on its own...last 4 selections...2 tris a q and a winner...IN ONE Now believe me...if a neddy has been racing in superior class with distinction.....this directly relates to its superior chance in an inferior race...wtf knew? Nothing is more certain... ...the VALUE component then kicks in...especially in NZ conditions...When said superior performing neddy has been racing in UNSUITABLE circumstances... i.e. ISKANDER...recent racing on unsuitable wet tracks...previously an excellent 3L effort in an MAAT on a Premier day after being used up early from a wide draw...hitting the lead 300 out and weakening slightly...totally understandable Wayyyy over the odds mid weak at 30's Thats what you call investing on VALUE neddys with SUPERIOR form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Give up, Thommo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomass said: i.e. ISKANDER...recent racing on unsuitable wet tracks...previously an excellent 3L effort in an MAAT on a Premier day after being used up early from a wide draw...hitting the lead 300 out and weakening slightly...totally understandable Wayyyy over the odds mid weak at 30's Thats what you call investing on VALUE neddys with SUPERIOR form Simple then. Put a screen shot up of your bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mardigras said: Simple then. Put a screen shot up of your bet. Won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Won't happen. I'm sure if he backed it, it would happen. Because he didn't back it, he's no doubt trying to work out how he can get hold of a screenshot that makes him look like he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 It's not difficult. Go to the results pane on the right for your account. Search. Find the bet. Copy and paste. 1 minute tops. Not 2 hours since you saw the request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 16 hours ago, mardigras said: Simple then. Put a screen shot up of your bet. Its totes pointless playing your silly kindy games mate... The last time I posted 200 turned into 10k...on a lazy Friday...You spluttered "every dog has a day" Not only that proof but the last 4 races I've tipped on here before the race... ...have resulted in 2 tris a Q and a winner.. IN ONE Thats a World record...a 170,000/1 multi Im applying to Guinness for that... And You're still trying to find 'value' in Whanganui H11 rails runners Next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 16 hours ago, Freda said: Give up, Thommo. Soz Freda...what part of the Grassi philosophy do you support again? 'Invest' on 'Value' on H11 Whanganui rails runners...ignore Course Specialists...ignore unlucky, wide without cover et el... ...or REDZEL's trainer was wrong that it needs a Hood to perform? Or all of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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