Chief Stipe Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I have spoken to two people directly connected with the Race 2 protest at Ellerslie on Saturday 30 November. The version of events posted on BOAY was the pure fantasy of one individual. The facts are that the Stipendiary Stewards lodged the protest. Te Akau connections didn't think there was much to protest about which is the view of a number of BOAY posters. The Stipes report is as follows: Race 2 Executive Travel 1100 TARGHEE (R Elliot) - Inconvenienced near the 150 metres when DRAGON QUEEN shifted out. Following the race a protest was lodged by the Stipendiary Stewards alleging interference by the 1st placed horse TARONI (D Johnson) to the 2nd placed horse BORDEAUX LE ROUGE (S Collett) inside the final 100 metres. After viewing films and hearing submissions the Judicial Committee upheld the protest relegating TARONI to 2nd placing. The final placings now read - 1 BORDEAUX LE ROUGE 1st, 8 TARONI 2nd, 6 DRAGON QUEEN 3rd, 5 TARGHEE 4th. BORDEAUX LE ROUGE (S Collett replaced T Harris) - Promoted to 1st placing after suffering interference inside the final 100 metres. TARONI (D Johnson) - Relegated from 1st placing after causing interference inside the final 100 metres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 the stewards report is crystal clear-protest initiated by TA trainer J.Richards,over ruled by TA boss David Ellis,stipes substituted as informant.Protest upheld,=nearly everyone wins a...prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: the stewards report is crystal clear-protest initiated by TA trainer J.Richards,over ruled by TA boss David Ellis,stipes substituted as informant.Protest upheld,=nearly everyone wins a...prize. That's not what it says on the Stipes Report which I posted above. From what I understand is that there was some confusion initially on who was initiating the protest. The Stipes did. 30nov2019auckland.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: That's not what it says on the Stipes Report which I posted above. From what I understand is that there was some confusion initially on who was initiating the protest. The Stipes did. 30nov2019auckland.pdf 599.3 kB · 0 downloads Chief I'm overseas at present and thats why I earlier said I'm not posting for a while. however having read about this ' enquiry' or whatever, there are a couple of issues that arise: From the films on line there is no way that the Te akau runner would have beaten the winner. Part of the rules governing protests says something like ' if the interference had not taken place the affected horse WOULD HAVE beaten the other horse. No way in hell would that have been the case. I agree with others here that the only reason the 2nd horse got close to the winner was because the winner was running about and was being restrained by its rider ( who curiously given she lost the race, was not charged with careless riding?). BUT Read the report on the j.c.a. website. How about this for a stunner: "Mr Ellis advised the Committee that he and Ms Collett the rider of Bordeaux Le Rouge had nothing to say in relation to the alleged incident'. WHAT?? AND it appears that the bloody j.c.a.-one of whom not surprisingly was dreary Doolly-did not even ask one question of S Collett!! Ellis has no right to tell the stewards or the j.c.a. that they can't ask a rider questions! Yet they bloody folded in front of him. Surely they had to ask Collett what had taken place? Would she have won if not interefered with? How was her horse travelling? This is bloody disgraceful and heads should roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 That's not what it says on the Stipes Report which I posted above. From what I understand is that there was some confusion initially on who was initiating the protest. The Stipes did. 30nov2019auckland.pdf 599.3 kB · so has this been expunged.?..'The Information indicated that the Protest had been instigated by Mr P Richards on behalf of the connections of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE. However, Mr Ellis the Principal of Te Akau Racing told the Committee that he did not wish to pursue the protest. At this juncture Mr Oatham advised the Committee that the Stipendiary Stewards would be the Informant and proceeded on that basis. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 This topic is closed. Mr Ellis was representing Te Akau and he DOES have a right to say what he said. If Collett had nothing to say then so be it. The Stipes made the decision anyway so who cares? End of story. You can even lodge a protest and not say anything. It is up to the Stewards and JCA. Thanks. And before anyone says I'm a Te Akau sycophant I'd say you haven't read many of my posts. I've congratulated them when it was due and when I didn't rate a horse or a ride I've stated my opinion. This topic was started by a lunatic espousing unfounded conspiracy theories and quite frankly I'm sick of those fantasies. A protest was lodged by the Stipes, Te Akau as was their right didn't present an argument and the JCA decided on the evidence. Some punter's win, some owners win, some punters lose, some owners lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 'This topic was started by a lunatic espousing unfounded conspiracy theories' -bit harsh on All the Aces....aren't you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: 'This topic was started by a lunatic espousing unfounded conspiracy theories' -bit harsh on All the Aces....aren't you?? No I wasn't referring to All The Aces - I was referring to Thomaas. As I said I have spoken to two people who were there and I accept what they said. Thomaas has had no direct knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thomas said the stipes decision was the correct one =the opposite position of most.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Thomas said the stipes decision was the correct one =the opposite position of most.?? That wasn't the issue - the issue was his fantasy depiction of what unfolded before and during the inquiry. He probably thinks man didn't land on the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The real issue must be how do you manage to get Samantha to shut up ? She is a bit chirpy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: 'This topic was started by a lunatic espousing unfounded conspiracy theories' -bit harsh on All the Aces....aren't you?? gave me a Laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I have spoken to two people directly connected with the Race 2 protest at Ellerslie on Saturday 30 November. The version of events posted on BOAY was the pure fantasy of one individual. The facts are that the Stipendiary Stewards lodged the protest. Te Akau connections didn't think there was much to protest about which is the view of a number of BOAY posters. The Stipes report is as follows: Race 2 Executive Travel 1100 TARGHEE (R Elliot) - Inconvenienced near the 150 metres when DRAGON QUEEN shifted out. Following the race a protest was lodged by the Stipendiary Stewards alleging interference by the 1st placed horse TARONI (D Johnson) to the 2nd placed horse BORDEAUX LE ROUGE (S Collett) inside the final 100 metres. After viewing films and hearing submissions the Judicial Committee upheld the protest relegating TARONI to 2nd placing. The final placings now read - 1 BORDEAUX LE ROUGE 1st, 8 TARONI 2nd, 6 DRAGON QUEEN 3rd, 5 TARGHEE 4th. BORDEAUX LE ROUGE (S Collett replaced T Harris) - Promoted to 1st placing after suffering interference inside the final 100 metres. TARONI (D Johnson) - Relegated from 1st placing after causing interference inside the final 100 metres. Mate you better wake up and snort some Roses or similar... You don't even realise the JCA Report is GOSPEL in this! Paul Richards initiated the protest...paste that in straight off... Davo sniffed in and pulled out and ONLY then did the Stipes take over... And stop this fantasy right now that you "contacted someone" I personally know the Right Honorable Henry Plumtree...and he was THERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 OK it seems now that you are accusing the Stipes of lying. As for your other assertions I don't lie unlike you. This story is done. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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