Mark D Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Just had a squiz at R5 - I take it the inside of the track has not withstood the rigours on recent racing? Quote
Thomass Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 An absolute DISGRACE it was Mark... Irrigated as well.... Fair enough if they want bias...but the communication to Punters went like this Stipes inform 'someone' in the Media the Rail's off...Im suspecting it could have been on the 11am Radio report with Earily... Did the HOPELESS Stipes think to disseminate this IMPORTANT information widely before Racing starts? By Tweeting for example OBVIOUSLY NOT...screw them...what else do we expect though? Sweenz then gets on that "Get ALL the Punting Information you need on The Punters Lounge" "Track looks good" F ME... No it wasn't...THE RAIL WAS OFF...the Stipes told a handful on the wireless... "The rails off" Sweenz finally tells us later that was the case... By that time...even Magoo could see it! So just give PUNTERS THE PEN OR GOING STICK READINGS!!! How easy would that be? YEA NA...far to f in complicated for this lot And they wonder why Punters have buggered off 1 1 Quote
mardigras Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 On 24/12/2019 at 8:34 AM, Thomass said: Why on earth do you feel the need to write a f in novel every time you post? 3 Quote
Thomass Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 It's so half wits like you, sbazzo, bi curious and the Chef wannabe can comprehendo... ...step by step, sentence by sentence, word by word Like 'investing' on Whanganui Rail attendees...on an H11... Treweek overwatered the shit out of the rail...and forgot to tell PUNTERS... ...who keep him in a job... Then the Hopeless RIU who knew the rail was off... ...told a f in handful on the radio...and hoped upon stupid hope that the information would disseminate... ...as if by f in magic F me.. NZTR/RIU deserve each other on planet Pig Ignorant 1 Quote
mardigras Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 And here was me thinking it was because you just liked to read all the lovely words you share. The halfwits you talk about have a hell of a lot more knowledge than you could ever. What does that make you? (Rhetorical) Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, mardigras said: The halfwits you talk about have a hell of a lot more knowledge than you could ever. What does that make you? (Rhetorical) Wit-less? Quote
Thomass Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 So 6 tracks have the new 'Going Stick' HQ, Puke, Matamata, HB, Riccarton and Wingas Hey boys and Girls...just hit the brand new button attached...which downloads all of the readings taken.... So PUNTERS can see where the place to be is Just like they did with it at the Breeders Cup this year... or in Awapuni's case thee Pen readings...which would have shown the rail was off from the over watering irrigation Dont be embarrassed Kim Treweek...Its not your fault But it is your fault if you're refusing to be honest with Punters... who pay your wages....ok? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Thomass said: who pay your wages....ok? Pokies and Sports Betting. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Thomass said: So PUNTERS can see where the place to be is Can you give us an example of how you would have used this at Awapuni? Easy. Can you give us an example how you will use it before the next meeting? Hard. Quote
Thomass Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Wtf? Giving us the Shear Stick readings on the morning... ..or if Matamata have a twilight..taking the straight rail readings 2 hours before racing... ...not 9 f in hours like last meeting...where an H 10 turned into a S 7...without Punters knowing Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Thomass said: Wtf? Giving us the Shear Stick readings on the morning... ..or if Matamata have a twilight..taking the straight rail readings 2 hours before racing... ...not 9 f in hours like last meeting...where an H 10 turned into a S 7...without Punters knowing You are now arguing something different. Quote
Thomass Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Yea na.... Its ALL related... Like Whanganui taking a reading out to 4.5M on an H 11 track... When they come down the outside rail Just HOW f in stupid are these suits? Quote
mardigras Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 If it's an H11 and you know they're coming down the outside, the penetrometer reading isn't going to be of much use. I'd be looking for runners drawn the inside to get a nice tidy price advantage myself, as they're all going to the outside anyway. 2 Quote
Thomass Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 You're not too good at this 'knowledge' bizzo are you? Whangas has @ a 2/3 fast lane on the outside rail on an H 11 But getting back to the thread... The information 'vacuum' is a direct result of the Intrgrity split when the RIU branched off from control of NZTR Oatham's Take and direct quote from Rodely asking him "Punters would get too confused" what that shows is a TOTAL ignorance of things Punting But that's what you expect from the HOPLESS RIU Godber's was even more telling " I'm not a fan of the number system...a straight F/E/S is what I like" FFS..spoken like a true Harness man who knows SFA about Thoroughbreds Quote
mardigras Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 The numbers are a waste of money. Everything costs. NZ is struggling with revenue and more numbers wouldn't change that. Cost Vs benefit. Small cost, zero benefit. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 I don't see the point in what Thomaas is requesting. So what if you have this information? It doesn't materially alter the chances of horses relative to their price. More importantly only the jockeys could use this information to any effect. As a pinter you have no control over what they do. Well not legally. Quote
barryb Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Having all that info doesn't help in the slightest if you bet after the race like Thomass does. 1 Quote
Thomass Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I don't see the point in what Thomaas is requesting. So what if you have this information? It doesn't materially alter the chances of horses relative to their price. More importantly only the jockeys could use this information to any effect. As a pinter you have no control over what they do. Well not legally. Of course you can't... Your punting knowledge is pointless...period But that's what you get by plonking your ass in front of the telly trying to replicate the Life of Cats...with your leg in the air Heard of mapping?? ..handy...rail...locked in...no helicopter allowed...odds against getting off cop the f on Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thomass said: handy...rail...locked in...no helicopter allowed...odds against getting off Dumb jockey but even dumber you. It might explain how your chosen bet lost AFTER the race but wouldn't have altered your horses chances BEFORE the race. In any event in situations where the inside is "off" jockeys will normally act accordingly and avoid it. Again you have no control over that. More importantly you will find that the condition of a small proportion of the track will not have altered horses chances and their outcomes. For example just as many favourites win when the inside is "off" as when is "on". 2 Quote
Thomass Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 WITLESS Who said a "small portion"? A punter...worth their salt...will adjust accordingly if they know a horse their investing on will MORE THAN LIKELY... ...have trouble getting off the INFERIOR ground Its basic Punting 101 shit FFS Quote
mardigras Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Thomass said: WITLESS Who said a "small portion"? A punter...worth their salt...will adjust accordingly if they know a horse their investing on will MORE THAN LIKELY... ...have trouble getting off the INFERIOR ground Its basic Punting 101 shit FFS Why will a horse have trouble getting off inferior ground if the jockeys all know the outside is better? There won't be any horses in its way. 1 Quote
Thomass Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Soz...should have said... CLUELESS... Both you and bi Curious wouldn't have the Racing knowledge to worry a horse tick... It also happened at the Otaki meeting this week.. the inside was a death trap... Contrary to your belief...horses can't have the gear option of including a gyrocopter on a Jockeys helmet... ..yet..it may happen?? Keep the faith then... Quote
mardigras Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, Thomass said: Soz...should have said... CLUELESS... Both you and bi Curious wouldn't have the Racing knowledge to worry a horse tick... It also happened at the Otaki meeting this week.. the inside was a death trap... Contrary to your belief...horses can't have the gear option of including a gyrocopter on a Jockeys helmet... ..yet..it may happen?? Keep the faith then... More rubbish. It's never ending. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Thomass said: It also happened at the Otaki meeting this week.. the inside was a death trap... Aside from there being no deaths at Otaki the races were all won by favourites bar one. Quote
Thomass Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 Really...and that's got to do with the rail being off...How? Only 2 won inside Barrier 5 and one NOT SANTA stayed 3/4 widths off the entire journey...as indeed they endeavoured to do all day.. Quote
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