That Girl Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I've just heard from Brett at SPCA , prosecution have dropped the charges against Cole. What a long drawn out saga for ultimately nothing. I was a witness/former worker willing to give my evidence in court, but we wont get there, and I'm gutted about that. There's many other witnesses who put themselves out there aswell, in the face of fear and intimidation who I feel for at this moment too. Brett sounded gutted aswell. Nothing much more to say, the game is fucked, the justice system is fucked...how sad too bad... SPCA asked if I'm happy for my evidence to be given to RIU..I said yeh give it to them!! They'll probably shred the evidence and give the shredded paper to Cole for his pet rabbits...??? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheats onion rings Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 You witnesses have done a fantastic job. Shame on the justice system. He'll be at the races tonight probably giving the finger. Cose that's about the extent of his fukt up mentality. Rember karma. It eventually strikes. We will just sit back and watch and wait 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 The thing is the RIU have had him on live baiting charges before and lady time I think he got a little fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheats onion rings Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Dont break your wrist tonight rozo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devito Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It’s not what you know it’s what you can prove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way South Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, That Girl said: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I've just heard from Brett at SPCA , prosecution have dropped the charges against Cole. What a long drawn out saga for ultimately nothing. I was a witness/former worker willing to give my evidence in court, but we wont get there, and I'm gutted about that. There's many other witnesses who put themselves out there aswell, in the face of fear and intimidation who I feel for at this moment too. Brett sounded gutted aswell. Nothing much more to say, the game is fucked, the justice system is fucked...how sad too bad... SPCA asked if I'm happy for my evidence to be given to RIU..I said yeh give it to them!! They'll probably shred the evidence and give the shredded paper to Cole for his pet rabbits...??? You did your best kid and well done for that. Did they say why the charges were dropped? Who ultimately makes that decision? I wonder how big the "Donation" was.. I have had no time for the SPCA for sometime now and it has been many years since i said they will NEVER get another cent of my money. this vindicates my feelings. Just think ....some little old lady in Balclutha probably paid for this 2 and half year debacle when she left her house to the SPCA under the belief she was helping all the unwanted kittys and puppies.... she probably owned a white poodle that never left her side....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Way south maybe you should do more research before blaming the SPCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mehe said: Way south maybe you should do more research before blaming the SPCA What are the facts? Interested in hearing them as spending all those resources on it just to drop the charges seems ludicrous Someone looking from the outside in would suggest they believed they did not have a strong enough case to prove with absolute certainty that he was live baiting. Edited July 3, 2020 by Jacob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Mehe said: Way south maybe you should do more research before blaming the SPCA I'm probably speaking out of turn here, not being a 'dog racing' insider....but, wrt horses and other large livestock, the SPCA are effing useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Frieda it was not the SPCA who dropped the charges they are pissed off the charges are still not going a head there was new evidence supplied and the crown law dropped the charges but there are talks about a group getting together and taking a civil case against the cheating mongrel Edited July 3, 2020 by Mehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymatter Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Once the charges are handed over to the Crown prosecutor (which they were when Cole elected a jury trial) it is up to the Crown prosecutor and not the SPCA whether they progress. If they can't be assured that the charges will be proved to the criminal evidentiary threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt then it is better that the charges are withdrawn, in my legal opinion. This means that if they can get further evidence later on, then they can lay charges again. Whereas if they prosecute and don't reach the threshold for conviction and later get more evidence, they can't try him again due to s 26(2) NZBORA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/spca-drops-charges-of-livebaiting-against-greyhound-racer/ar-BB16j6PR?ocid=msedgntp Sounds to me like the whispers I had heard that Cole had people willing to testify the animals were already dead prior to putting them on the lure arm would have been the reason charges were dropped. That said, I EXPECT the RIU to swoop in on him now and enforce justice for the entire greyhound community and its stakeholders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I think you will find the the writer of the post was ok in saying what she seen and a few others as well so I doubt that would be new evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockyaleg Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Greymatter said: Once the charges are handed over to the Crown prosecutor (which they were when Cole elected a jury trial) it is up to the Crown prosecutor and not the SPCA whether they progress. If they can't be assured that the charges will be proved to the criminal evidentiary threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt then it is better that the charges are withdrawn, in my legal opinion. This means that if they can get further evidence later on, then they can lay charges again. Whereas if they prosecute and don't reach the threshold for conviction and later get more evidence, they can't try him again due to s 26(2) NZBORA. Correct. Cole would have been better off going to trial rather than have the charges dropped. The door remains open and as he was not acquitted, his character remains forever tarnished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Lol his life was tarnished any how didnt matter what way you look at it but hope there are know cameras on the bull ring tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwigreys Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I hear the RIU / GRNZ will not be prosecuting either due to lack of evidence Talk about being the chosen one...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 which means sadly that greyhound racing in new Zealand is funked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Unless we do a private prosecution maybe do a give little page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 go for it. If all the anti's have any balls they should pitch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Kiwigreys said: I hear the RIU / GRNZ will not be prosecuting either due to lack of evidence Talk about being the chosen one...... Then why was Brendon warned off in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: Then why was Brendon warned off in the first place? That's what I can't work out. Especially if they were informed by the RIU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) I think you will find that he was warned off as a suspect and also for his own safety Edited July 23, 2020 by Mehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Back a few years ago, the trackside announcers were stopped from using the saying "Here come the bunny (or rabbit), when the lure was sent into motion. Not long after that time, pictures such as this one surfaced and nothing was done about it. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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