Mikie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gammalite said: And just one other thing . Pete McMullen has the horses in his wifes name in QLD here. They win a lot of races and Chantel drives some too. I respect them greatly , and LOVE Petes driving ability !! But it is 'brilliant' and 'not a bad stategy' to race in just one of their names. I HATE the idea that occasionally Pete is driving freelance AGAINST a horse he might be training with Chantel on occasion. YES I agree that is a rort and shouldn't be allowed !!! lol. By order of judge Gammalite ! but am sure they won't change it lol The strategy also allows Amanda Turnbull to train her horses without any help from her hubby too doesn't it? Although that hasn't gone too well lately Mikie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mikie said: I'm not picking on you at all Gammalite and you must have misunderstood my post's I said you were talking rubbish about Lloyd Williams being refused a Trainer's Licence. As another poster has pointed out Mr Williams never applied for one I also thought this thread was about how good King Of Swing was My questions about King Of Swing, the other horse from David Aiken and the syringe was aimed at all and sundry although I thought, with you being an Aussie, that you would be in a better position to answer them hence the reference to you I don't know if you believe the excuse about the tight track or not, but I don't Mikie KING Of SWING has always been good Mikie, I tried to lead with that at the start By Reminding everyone about his great record as a young horse culminating in the GROUP 1 win for Ray at Melton. Luke has ALWAYS been a great trainer. started out in 2003 with just seven horses , and won 90 races between them, one was SLIPnSLIDE another was FOR A REASON who won heaps. He is the Real deal, and No surprise to see the great results this year ( AND all the past 17 Years too !!! ) great job Luke ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mikie said: The strategy also allows Amanda Turnbull to train her horses without any help from her hubby too doesn't it? Although that hasn't gone too well lately Mikie Not sure who hubby is ? There was an incident with racefixing involving a leading driver Nathan Jack at one stage , but Amanda was acquitted eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Not sure who hubby is ? There was an incident with racefixing involving a leading driver Nathan Jack at one stage , but Amanda was acquitted eventually Perth trainer Aiden Warwick has disappeared from training do you know anything gammalite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: Perth trainer Aiden Warwick has disappeared from training do you know anything gammalite? No don't know that one , see Clinton Hall got 5 years recently though ,for something. Brother of Champion driver Gary Hall Jnr. Maybe it would of been a ''good strategy ' to put the horses in his missus name ? (If it was training rather than driving related disqualification lol...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gammalite said: No don't know that one , see Clinton Hall got 5 years recently though ,for something. Brother of Champion driver Gary Hall Jnr. Maybe it would of been a ''good strategy ' to put the horses in his missus name ? (If it was training rather than driving related disqualification lol...) westburn grant was good kiwi bred Queensland horse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Gammalite said: Not sure who hubby is ? There was an incident with racefixing involving a leading driver Nathan Jack at one stage , but Amanda was acquitted eventually Hubby is Nathan Jack Just pinged for looking after wife’s horses whilst not allowed to do so Gamnalite Mikie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Gammalite said: KING Of SWING has always been good Mikie, I tried to lead with that at the start By Reminding everyone about his great record as a young horse culminating in the GROUP 1 win for Ray at Melton. Luke has ALWAYS been a great trainer. started out in 2003 with just seven horses , and won 90 races between them, one was SLIPnSLIDE another was FOR A REASON who won heaps. He is the Real deal, and No surprise to see the great results this year ( AND all the past 17 Years too !!! ) great job Luke ! Can’t agree with you Gamnalite, if King Of Swing has “always” been a great horse then Garry Hall would have won more races with him. If the small tracks were an issue he could have travelled, he has been known to do it Yes, Luke is a great trainer Yes, Lance Armstrong was a great cyclist Mikie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mikie said: Hubby is Nathan Jack Just pinged for looking after wife’s horses whilst not allowed to do so Gamnalite Mikie oh dear ,that is sad , always something to muck things up. Mark Pitt sadly involved as well, when just getting started in life and winning Victoria Oaks with SHEZ ALL ROCK 2018. Shez ALL Rock then went there to Mark and Nat and promptly won 2 x Group 1 's. Fab filly with 10 wins from just 11 starts. Guess Jack and Pitt won't be back then,..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mikie said: Can’t agree with you Gamnalite, if King Of Swing has “always” been a great horse then Garry Hall would have won more races with him. If the small tracks were an issue he could have travelled, he has been known to do it Yes, Luke is a great trainer Yes, Lance Armstrong was a great cyclist Mikie Fair comment Mikie ! not the track if you say so , just a theory. Mark and Luke probably return a Negative personal swab, unlike Lance at times hahaha (small joke that hope you found funny) hehe You trying to call Luke drugs cheat obviously ?? He did driving for Mark and Allstars stayed with his squad in NSW at times so I imagine they are in cahoots with the best Training Methods going , also getting all the latest Latest training methods info from the States via TODD and ANDREW over the years so are ABSOLUTE TOP OF THE TRAINING TREE . yes? Someone has to be the Best. Mark and Luke are it. No need to accuse of drugs cheat as ALL their winners get Swabbed , Just like everyone elses??? Mark and Luke stables both doing fine and appreciate your support and love of harness racing !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Gammalite said: No don't know that one , see Clinton Hall got 5 years recently though ,for something. Brother of Champion driver Gary Hall Jnr. Maybe it would of been a ''good strategy ' to put the horses in his missus name ? (If it was training rather than driving related disqualification lol...) Race fixing,same as nathan jack. "Good strategy" to put the horses in family members name. Isn't that what the mccarthy's for a while? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, the galah said: Race fixing,same as nathan jack. "Good strategy" to put the horses in family members name. Isn't that what the mccarthy's for a while? yeah sure is Galah, we discussed with Mikey in earlier posts in this very thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 9 hours ago, the galah said: Race fixing,same as nathan jack. "Good strategy" to put the horses in family members name. Isn't that what the mccarthy's for a while? so any fixing in Auckland Friday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: so any fixing in Auckland Friday? Depends on the definition of race fixing. I always say the video doesn't lie. Its what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, the galah said: Depends on the definition of race fixing. I always say the video doesn't lie. Its what happened. what a grim answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: what a grim answer Did you think the amazing dream drive was dodgy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 17 hours ago, Gammalite said: Fair comment Mikie ! not the track if you say so , just a theory. Mark and Luke probably return a Negative personal swab, unlike Lance at times hahaha (small joke that hope you found funny) hehe You trying to call Luke drugs cheat obviously ?? He did driving for Mark and Allstars stayed with his squad in NSW at times so I imagine they are in cahoots with the best Training Methods going , also getting all the latest Latest training methods info from the States via TODD and ANDREW over the years so are ABSOLUTE TOP OF THE TRAINING TREE . yes? Someone has to be the Best. Mark and Luke are it. No need to accuse of drugs cheat as ALL their winners get Swabbed , Just like everyone elses??? Mark and Luke stables both doing fine and appreciate your support and love of harness racing !! No, that''s not 100% correct Gammalite All Luke's winners don't get swabbed Plus you must know from the FBI investigation in USA that the swabs haven't been returning positives I am a bit suspicious when a used needle and syringe is found on raceday at Mr Cross's stables, and the excuse it was used for the 3 horses that weren't racing that night All his horses should have been scratched Mikie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mikie said: No, that''s not 100% correct Gammalite All Luke's winners don't get swabbed Plus you must know from the FBI investigation in USA that the swabs haven't been returning positives I am a bit suspicious when a used needle and syringe is found on raceday at Mr Cross's stables, and the excuse it was used for the 3 horses that weren't racing that night All his horses should have been scratched Mikie Ok...... that is interesting. On all the Local cards in Brisbane and Redcliffe it always has in the stewards report that they swab ALL winners and take a pre-race blood sample from the selected random runners. I thought those main NSW tracks would be the same. Seems a good idea to swab all winners there to ! judging by the amount of syringes left laying around it seems by what you say .lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, the galah said: Did you think the amazing dream drive was dodgy? your mr Riu you tell us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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