Chief Stipe Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Only about 55 nominations for HB meeting. Seems to be the trend in the CD at the moment. Can't understand the logic of the two meetings two days apart at Taranaki. MEETING NEWS Hawke's Bay RI | Friday 1 January Nomination Morning Weather: Overcast Track: Dead 5 | 4mm Rain Last 48 Hours Rail: True | 25mm Irrigation Yesterday Weather and Track last updated at 8.49am Monday 28 December All races will remain open with the NRB until 9.00am Tuesday 29 December. More Nominations are required for this race meeting to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 They'd rather trial, deserve what they get, feel sorry for the genuine triers, the sellers will eventually be the perpetrators of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Has this meeting ever been popular from a noms perspective? This sums up NZ racing once again, there are plenty of smaller clubs who could have made better use of the licence from the perspective of doing something positive for Racing, but no come hell or high water the powers that be are determined that centralisation is the only way to go. New Plymouth in the CD doesn't look particularly good tomorrow with only 7 races on the card also. One does have to question the programming at some of these meetings also, I mean how thick do you have to be to not have any idea of the horses available in rating bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Huey said: Has this meeting ever been popular from a noms perspective? This sums up NZ racing once again, there are plenty of smaller clubs who could have made better use of the licence from the perspective of doing something positive for Racing, but no come hell or high water the powers that be are determined that centralisation is the only way to go. New Plymouth in the CD doesn't look particularly good tomorrow with only 7 races on the card also. One does have to question the programming at some of these meetings also, I mean how thick do you have to be to not have any idea of the horses available in rating bands. In some ways the dates scheduling in the South Island is better but I think Wingatui should have had another race on boxing day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Huey said: Has this meeting ever been popular from a noms perspective? This sums up NZ racing once again, there are plenty of smaller clubs who could have made better use of the licence from the perspective of doing something positive for Racing, but no come hell or high water the powers that be are determined that centralisation is the only way to go. New Plymouth in the CD doesn't look particularly good tomorrow with only 7 races on the card also. One does have to question the programming at some of these meetings also, I mean how thick do you have to be to not have any idea of the horses available in rating bands. Just to add there is no reason not to can Hastings on Jan 1 just like they did to Waikouiti and then hope Wairarapa does better without the distraction,probably only one good day needed at new plymouth as well,some of the jockeys must hate small race programmes,more races mean more rides which makes better economics. Edited December 28, 2020 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Huey said: Has this meeting ever been popular from a noms perspective? This sums up NZ racing once again, there are plenty of smaller clubs who could have made better use of the licence from the perspective of doing something positive for Racing, but no come hell or high water the powers that be are determined that centralisation is the only way to go. New Plymouth in the CD doesn't look particularly good tomorrow with only 7 races on the card also. One does have to question the programming at some of these meetings also, I mean how thick do you have to be to not have any idea of the horses available in rating bands. Quite thick Huey, but they are not short on thickness at the Taj Mahal. Their reasoning will be, so many are trialling, there were 30 trials at the latest Waikato roll up, but most were maidens, so, why not offer a full maiden program? the attrition rate is shocking, cater for those that are putting their hands up? if you program a maiden meeting and they don't turn up, put the fee up for trialling, I mean put it right up.......and whack the revenue from the lunatics back into stakes for those that do want to race, either that, or put in into infrastructure and do the industry a favour........it's a fools paradise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 hours ago, mikeynz said: Just to add there is no reason not to can Hastings on Jan 1 just like they did to Waikouiti and then hope Wairarapa does better without the distraction,probably only one good day needed at new plymouth as well,some of the jockeys must hate small race programmes,more races mean more rides which makes better economics. last year this HB meeting had an 8 race programme, biggest field 8 starters add in a 5 & 6 horse field also its not working . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Huey said: last year this HB meeting had an 8 race programme, biggest field 8 starters add in a 5 & 6 horse field also its not working . Maybe Wairarapa race Jan 1,Hawkes Bay lose this day completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, mikeynz said: Maybe Wairarapa race Jan 1,Hawkes Bay lose this day completely At this time of year you have to sell the public a good product,something else I notice,Waikouiti lose their jan 1 day,ok that's not the end if the world,they still get a date 2 weeks later,strange though is Waikouiti gets a much bigger crowd than Wingatui get on boxing day so why not race at Waikouiti on the new date,why the obsession with getting rid of good popular country racing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just looking at Taranaki day 2 ,fields,who comes up with these halfwit ideas? Strange people making strange decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just looking at Taranaki day 2 ,fields,who comes up with these halfwit ideas? Strange people making strange decisions. Hawkes Bay,6 races,I thought the higher ups were trying to reduce cost,it will cost the same to setup at Hastings with a smaller programme,is this wise,maybe Hawkes Bay should concentrate on all the top meetings they do have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Just looking at Taranaki day 2 ,fields,who comes up with these halfwit ideas? Strange people making strange decisions. Hawkes Bay,6 races,I thought the higher ups were trying to reduce cost,it will cost the same to setup at Hastings with a smaller programme,is this wise,maybe Hawkes Bay should concentrate on all the top meetings they do have. People are paid to come up with this, can you believe it? Clueless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 Races - 56 horses. I hope they realise that the industry needs these races to pay for Tier ONE Stakes. Won't be much profit from HB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Huey said: People are paid to come up with this, can you believe it? Clueless! Maybe - just maybe - it is all part of a Cunning Plan to prove that provincial meetings aren't needed to justify their push to close venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just looking at Taranaki day 2 ,fields,who comes up with these halfwit ideas? Strange people making strange decisions. Hawkes Bay,6 races,I thought the higher ups were trying to reduce cost,it will cost the same to setup at Hastings with a smaller programme,is this wise,maybe Hawkes Bay should concentrate on all the top meetings they do have. Just maybe and I say just maybe when they draw up the calandar for next season,Hawkes Bay go,Wairarapa race jan1,Taranaki one good day,they gave Waikouiti,Omakau new dates,why not change some of those northern meetings as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Freda said: Maybe - just maybe - it is all part of a Cunning Plan to prove that provincial meetings aren't needed to justify their push to close venues. Will be interesting to see the nominations for Wairarapa the next day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Fields for Riverton not out yet,might be getting up to race 14 as I speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Will be interesting to see the nominations for Wairarapa the next day! One non winners race for the harness has 22 nominations,can the gallops beat that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Freda said: Maybe - just maybe - it is all part of a Cunning Plan to prove that provincial meetings aren't needed to justify their push to close venues. That's exactly what it is , however they are needed but as you say not in the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, mikeynz said: One non winners race for the harness has 22 nominations,can the gallops beat that? Main race at Wairarapa,5 noms,brilliant. Strange irony,these 2 meetings have been doing this for years. Edited December 29, 2020 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bid Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 hours ago, mikeynz said: At this time of year you have to sell the public a good product. I don't agree with that. 99% of the people who go to these meetings wouldn't know if they were watching a match race between Gingernuts and Te Akau Shark or a Maiden 2000 meter race,or even if they are farm hacks . They are there for the day out and social occasion and the quality of the product is irrelevant. It's more important the clubs get everything else right, the beer cold,food nice and the toilets clean. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Bid said: I don't agree with that. 99% of the people who go to these meetings wouldn't know if they were watching a match race between Gingernuts and Te Akau Shark or a Maiden 2000 meter race,or even if they are farm hacks . They are there for the day out and social occasion and the quality of the product is irrelevant. It's more important the clubs get everything else right, the beer cold,food nice and the toilets clean. Very true, but what does need to happen is the opportunity to socialise and attend a race meeting is spread as far and wide as possible, particularly at this time of year. Not gifted to clubs and locations based on some false pretense that they are improving the industry by consolidating it, not to mention know factual info or commercial analysis to justify such poor decision making. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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