Chief Stipe Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Well it's an improvement , but for 200k and G1 status it's still not a great look , hope they all run and not just nom'd to help the look . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Was always going to happen, call in the reserves but the fact there was only 4 initial noms says more about the real state of the sport. Particularly when the industry bends over backwards for Ellerslie on everything and I mean everything! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Huey said: but the fact there was only 4 initial noms says more about the real state of the sport. Yes and it isn't going to change while the rank and file bitch about whip infringements and environmental substance contamination pointing the bone at each other. Meanwhile the same old same old keeps happening. For example has anyone in the industry seen ANY benefit yet from NZTR's $2 million "investment" in a new computer system? Has there been any significant increase in stakes this year at the level where it counts i.e. not at the Grp level? I don't expect the rank and file to see much benefit from the supposed "success" of the TAB's restructure. Afterall they are essentially in administration (reporting to the DIA) and have find a spare $35 million shortly to stay solvent. That day of reckoning is fast approaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Huey said: Particularly when the industry bends over backwards for Ellerslie on everything and I mean everything! This particular carnival is getting poorer year on year , yea there is the odd good race but this meeting just feels flat , look at Saturday , is it getting your juices fizzing , meh from me , just another raceday , maybe it's just me . I think it certainly has impacted on continuity within the industry calender and along with the KM meeting their impact on the rest of the calender is now being shown to be detrimental in some regards . Will things change , i don't think so , i don't believe there is the vision or heart to change it up , can pretty much see the status quo , re , stakes and calender , staying pretty much as we see them . The industry needs to start taking a holistic view of what needs to be done to start improving things , stop this big boys v little boys attitude and understand that every one has a part to play . We've all said for along time that racing was starting to get top heavy , perhaps the tipping point has arrived , the rest of this year will be defining i think , especially regards any or no changes come the start of the new season . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, nomates said: This particular carnival is getting poorer year on year , yea there is the odd good race but this meeting just feels flat , look at Saturday , is it getting your juices fizzing , meh from me , just another raceday , maybe it's just me . I think it certainly has impacted on continuity within the industry calender and along with the KM meeting their impact on the rest of the calender is now being shown to be detrimental in some regards . Will things change , i don't think so , i don't believe there is the vision or heart to change it up , can pretty much see the status quo , re , stakes and calender , staying pretty much as we see them . The industry needs to start taking a holistic view of what needs to be done to start improving things , stop this big boys v little boys attitude and understand that every one has a part to play . We've all said for along time that racing was starting to get top heavy , perhaps the tipping point has arrived , the rest of this year will be defining i think , especially regards any or no changes come the start of the new season . Not often I can say this, but not one single race at Ellerslie interests me on Saturday. Having said that there were some great races there on Derby day. I can see it all changing , in that I can see it all falling apart, its hanging by a thread at the moment only most people don't realise it. As for a holistic view , I couldn't agree more, but there are too many agendas, too many self interested , too much amateurish administration, too many changes for the sake of change , too much hype and BS that doesn't stand up to scrutiny and too many that have forgotten about what once made the sport great in this country! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Only a matter of time before private enterprise becomes more involved in racing and the calendar will be dictated by them. Edited March 10, 2021 by mumbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: If this is worth group 1 status then NZ racing has real disappeared and maybe just maybe it will go the way italy did and poof all group 1 races will be non existent in the next couple of years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 hours ago, nomates said: This particular carnival is getting poorer year on year , yea there is the odd good race but this meeting just feels flat , look at Saturday , is it getting your juices fizzing , meh from me , just another raceday , maybe it's just me . I think it certainly has impacted on continuity within the industry calender and along with the KM meeting their impact on the rest of the calender is now being shown to be detrimental in some regards . Will things change , i don't think so , i don't believe there is the vision or heart to change it up , can pretty much see the status quo , re , stakes and calender , staying pretty much as we see them . The industry needs to start taking a holistic view of what needs to be done to start improving things , stop this big boys v little boys attitude and understand that every one has a part to play . We've all said for along time that racing was starting to get top heavy , perhaps the tipping point has arrived , the rest of this year will be defining i think , especially regards any or no changes come the start of the new season . Fair suk boys...PECKERS UP Some OUSTANDING betting races there...not to mention the Belle/Avantage clash! Sometimes you can talk yourself into a deep depressive state... Especially after reading a Chef rant Take a walk through the sand dunes of your local and feel the black sand between your twinklies...then DANCE your worries away 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 No Tommy , continually having to read your rants are what are putting us into a deep depressive state . Your attitude is pretty much how our management is running the industry , DON'T WORRY , BE HAPPY . It's worked so far eh . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 You should hear what he calls Hugh Bowman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I don't mind that he thinks OB is a cheat or that he has expressed it but continually using it in every post just gets boring , we get it he thinks he's a cheat , ok now move on . As ever tho Thomass doesn't like giving up his bone , we can only hope he gets it wedged somewhere painful that will give us a break . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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