Gammalite Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 KRUG has won both Derbies this year in NZ. looking forward to seeing him tonight again for sure. In 1963 the NZ Champion juvenile pacer TACTILE won both those as well (the NZ Derby and The Great Northern Derby) but then champion NZ horseman Robert Cameron shipped across to Aus and took out the NSW pacers derby, The South Aus Pacing Derby and the Victorian Derby !! 5 Derbies in 2 countries . Now that is brilliance.!!! I should be on the galloping thread , but you guys are the best here at the harness. Just having a look at the Queensland Derby at Eagle Farm tomorrow Who loves kiwi Chris Waller training ??? everyone... Who likes the Great NZ jockey James McDonald Riding ??? everyone... Who loves backing a Derby Winner at 14-1 odds ??? everyone.... Who loves a kiwi-bred getting out to the Derby distance of 2400m ? everyone.... and the horse too !!! (also Let's Karaka Deel and Horrifying) NZ trifecta. WELL here it is !!!!!! KUKERACHA No 3 Race 7 derby winner? The stars and moon are aligning. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gammalite said: In 1963 the NZ Champion juvenile pacer TACTILE won both those as well (the NZ Derby and The Great Northern Derby) but then champion NZ horseman Robert Cameron shipped across to Aus and took out the NSW pacers derby, The South Aus Pacing Derby and the Victorian Derby !! 5 Derbies in 2 countries . Now that is brilliance.!!! courage won 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Rangatira said: courage won 6 Maori chief won brown derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, paleface adios said: Maori chief won brown derby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rangatira said: courage won 6 Courage Under Fire = 6 Derby Wins ! outstanding !. Also 6 Interdominion heat wins but closest he got was 4th in a Grand final. My dad flew up from Tassie to Brisbane in 2001 to punt on CourageUFire big , as he said was a certainty. We were packed in like sardines in the stands , was tight as can be everywhere. never seen anything like it. never happened again . YULESTAR from 4 back on the fence down the back, somehow got out , and rattled home wide to win for NZ !! tony Shaw , couldn't believe it . Raingirl's foal ATITAGAIN was 2nd, Tim and Anthony Butt were 3rd with POCKET ME as well. Courage Under Fire a 'battling' 4th . and a very grumpy old man grizzling in the stand about everything kiwi beating him hahahaha. crushed by the loss and the crowd !! hahahaha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, paleface adios said: Maori chief won brown derby You don’t really like Maori’s, most likely because you don’t really like the behaviour of males within that group. Again putting yourself down, as you are a male. On a positive note, am enjoying your race posts 😄, not these (Kiwi’s & Maori’s) racist posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jones said: You don’t really like Maori’s, most likely because you don’t really like the behaviour of males within that group. Again putting yourself down, as you are a male. On a positive note, am enjoying your race posts 😄, not these (Kiwi’s & Maori’s) racist posts. you got that wrong lol have you not heard of the flying champion trotter maoris idol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, paleface adios said: you got that wrong lol have you not heard of the flying champion trotter maoris idol Fabulous. Apologies. No have not. Only been following since 2018. But great to hear that you were not having a crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jones said: Fabulous. Apologies. No have not. Only been following since 2018. But great to hear that you were not having a crack. us Aussies love our sheep jokes lol no was not having a crack jones . the jones name what a great family of harness racing in your country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, paleface adios said: . the jones name what a great family of harness racing in your country Derek Jones NZMM . outstanding man . good read this book too. No wonder Grandson Anthony Butt is so darn brilliant. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, paleface adios said: the jones name what a great family of harness racing in your country soangetaha lodge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, paleface adios said: you got that wrong lol have you not heard of the flying champion trotter maoris idol had 46 starts 40wins 3seconds 1 third 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rangatira said: soangetaha lodge and just for you Ranga here he is SOANGETAHA , Dereks favourite horse, and a Derby winner too (great Northern) this photo just before running 2nd in the Interdominion final at Addington. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Gammalite said: Just having a look at the Queensland Derby at Eagle Farm tomorrow Who loves kiwi Chris Waller training ??? everyone... Who likes the Great NZ jockey James McDonald Riding ??? everyone... Who loves backing a Derby Winner at 14-1 odds ??? everyone.... Who loves a kiwi-bred getting out to the Derby distance of 2400m ? everyone.... and the horse too !!! (also Let's Karaka Deel and Horrifying) NZ trifecta. WELL here it is !!!!!! KUKERACHA No 3 Race 7 derby winner? The stars and moon are aligning. The stars and the moon did align. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 15 hours ago, the galah said: The stars and the moon did align. Well it's been that sort of week. The sun earth and moon definitely in a line on Wednesday night !!!! lol........... Allstars winninning at Redcliffe (Virgil + Aqua Sancha) while the eclipse was on. excellent GREAT WIn !!! for KUKERACHA in the Queensland Derby yesterday (in the photo beating Hughie Bowman on the the Waller grey horse . Grand kiwi hoop JMAC wins !!! legend !!!! BRISBANE LIONS with 7 straight wins and smashing out HUGE win yesterday !!! AFL premiership Bound 2021? hell yeah! CHELSEA just now a few minutes ago in Europe, winnnnninnnng the Champions League Final ,(biggest football match there is in the world each year) and now CHAMPIONS of the WORLD !! ( my son drove over to wake me at five o'clock as is a big Manchester City supporter ) thinking he was gunna knock off my team supported. No chance !!! with the Stars aligning ! One word for it . Wahoooooooo!!. (send KRUG over for pacing Derby now?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Great uncle horse was called Little Maori in Aussie had another name in NZ and done well! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Gospel of Judas said: Great uncle horse was called Little Maori in Aussie had another name in NZ and done well! Your great Uncle's horse raced in NZ as ATLANTA (a Light Brigade mare who won a couple at Forbury Park) You are right on the money being on the Derby thread here as she left a brilliant foal named LITTLE WILLIAM. Little William WON the Victoria Derby 1975. !! to join the honour roll of champions like paleface Adios, Bag Limit, Westburn Grant, HolmesDG, Courage Under Fire and a swag of other classic winning horses. So LITTLE MAORI has a claim as the mum of a Derby Winner !!! a grand achievement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Gammalite said: Your great Uncle's horse raced in NZ as ATLANTA (a Light Brigade mare who won a couple at Forbury Park) You are right on the money being on the Derby thread here as she left a brilliant foal named LITTLE WILLIAM. Little William WON the Victoria Derby 1975. !! to join the honour roll of champions like paleface Adios, Bag Limit, Westburn Grant, HolmesDG, Courage Under Fire and a swag of other classic winning horses. So LITTLE MAORI has a claim as the mum of a Derby Winner !!! a grand achievement. Little Maori Also breed some other top liners and ran in some interdoms heats and won one. Mum Excelsa won Eastern cup and placed in New Zealand cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said: Little Maori Also breed some other top liners and ran in some interdoms heats and won one. Mum Excelsa won Eastern cup and placed in New Zealand cup. Well that's a great stat on her resume' . what a ripper. 1964 Interdominion at Melbourne Showgrounds . The brilliant horse TACTILE I mentioned start of this thread finished 3rd. the year after his 5 Derby wins. The NZ Best Horse Ever CARDIGAN BAY fin 6th starting 48 yards behind (because he won the 1963 Interdom SA) LITTLE MAORI shared the 12 yard Handicap with ROBIN DUNDEE (one of best NZ mare ever) who won Interdom the following year in 1965 at Forbury Park (dead-heat) So the kiwis were all off the Handicaps on that tiny tiny track ??? Talk about home town bias ??? Tactile, Little Maori, Robin Dundee off 12 yards and Cardigan Bay 48 yards. Minuteman won it ,off the front . Bloody cheating Aussies !!!! lol...... hahahaha your great Uncle's horse keeping EXCEPTIONALLY gifted company from NZ there !! wow ......... crazy good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Gammalite said: Well that's a great stat on her resume' . what a ripper. 1964 Interdominion at Melbourne Showgrounds . The brilliant horse TACTILE I mentioned start of this thread finished 3rd. the year after his 5 Derby wins. The NZ Best Horse Ever CARDIGAN BAY fin 6th starting 48 yards behind (because he won the 1963 Interdom SA) LITTLE MAORI shared the 12 yard Handicap with ROBIN DUNDEE (one of best NZ mare ever) who won Interdom the following year in 1965 at Forbury Park (dead-heat) So the kiwis were all off the Handicaps on that tiny tiny track ??? Talk about home town bias ??? Tactile, Little Maori, Robin Dundee off 12 yards and Cardigan Bay 48 yards. Minuteman won it ,off the front . Bloody cheating Aussies !!!! lol...... hahahaha your great Uncle's horse keeping EXCEPTIONALLY gifted company from NZ there !! wow ......... crazy good. Yep sure did, believe ran in that Dunedin Inter final year late, against Robin Dundee . Believe at some point, Melbourne mobsters tried poison it as well. Becuase how good it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said: Yep sure did, believe ran in that Dunedin Inter final year late, against Robin Dundee . Believe at some point, Melbourne mobsters tried poison it as well. Becuase how good is that happens in kiwi land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Didn't that happen to a wonder horse called Phar Lap too in Melbourne Australia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jones said: Didn't that happen to a wonder horse called Phar Lap too in Melbourne Australia. Sorry Jonsey , Phar Lap knocked off in Mexico by the Bandito's there. All good in Aus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Sorry Jonsey , Phar Lap knocked off in Mexico by the Bandito's there. All good in Aus. Hehe was meaning, the shooting attempt. Unless the movie just added bit for a bit of action. Just re-read Gospels post re poison. But yeah was thinking re shooting when posted lol. Edited June 2, 2021 by Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jones said: Hehe was meaning, the shooting attempt. Unless the movie just added bit for a bit of action. Just re-read Gospels post re poison. But yeah was thinking re shooting when posted lol. Yes some bookies paid off someone to fire off a few shots and scare them into scratching from the Melbourne Cup. Don't think they wanted to 'really' hurt the horse, as pretty hard to miss a horse with a gun. "Phar Lap" had scratched from the 1930 Caulfield Cup and that races subsequent winner "Amounis" was backed in huge amounts of doubles with Phar Lap to win the 1930 Melbourne Cup (Phar Lap scratched late from Caulfield Cup so they got great odds) so the bookies wanted him to scratch from Melbourne Cup too. he didn't. Phar Lap Won . and many bookies collapsed. FOOTNOTE that not many know. Phar Lap made an estimated $1,000,000 pounds for Bookies the year before in the 1929 Cup, an absolute fortune, as everyone backed Phar Lap , but he finished only 3rd to Nightmarch. bookies motto after that lot ?? "You win some , ya lose some" lol..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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