Don't expect any increases in Stakes this coming year! Unless they rob a bank or get a handout again the money isn't there!

[nomates]

1 hour ago, JJ Flash said:

And you are a student who has obviously had little life skills let alone finance ones based on this piece of rubbish.

Just to correct your stupidity , the NZRB went a few years back. Get with the program kid

As ever passing on life skills and knowledge in your own eloquent way .

[Chief Stipe]

59 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Very happy with the changes in last few years.

I guess we all should be happy that the NZRB/RITA/TAB NZ have traded their way out of insolvency - for the time being.

That said many that have been in the industry for a very long time aren't that happy.  I doubt the announcements in the last couple of weeks are going to change that.

Since you are full of possitividdy can you explain how TAB NZ aims to increase racing wagering revenue given that they haven't been able to do that in the last 10 years let alone the last 3 years?

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, JJ Flash said:

...one has to hope that Board demands NZTR keeps costs under control and thus further stakes increase's over the short to medium term.

But they can't keep costs under control can they?  They have important business functions to fund that were once the responsibility of NZRB/RITA/TAB NZ.  

[Huey]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

But they can't keep costs under control can they?  They have important business functions to fund that were once the responsibility of NZRB/RITA/TAB NZ.  

Is it true NZTR are looking for a COO? That cannot not be right, I mean along side having a CEO as well?

[nomates]

2 minutes ago, Huey said:

Is it true NZTR are looking for a COO? That cannot not be right, I mean along side having a CEO as well?

Why not they are flush , haven't you heard .

[nomates]

3 hours ago, nomates said:

So how would you describe where we find ourselfs in relation to where we were .

 

Yet another question that you appear to have not answered , if my analogy wasn't good succinct enough for you , how about " A SHITFEST " .

[Chief Stipe]

6 minutes ago, Huey said:

Is it true NZTR are looking for a COO? That cannot not be right, I mean along side having a CEO as well?

It will be interesting around the table at divvy up time.  Will there be an argument put forward by NZTR that because they have the largest piece of the pie that they should get more than their contribution because they have greater costs e.g. a COO, a new Marketing team, a new IT system?

[Gospel of Judas]

1 hour ago, JJ Flash said:

And you are a student who has obviously had little life skills let alone finance ones based on this piece of rubbish.

Just to correct your stupidity , the NZRB went a few years back. Get with the program kid

My my looks like got some we clown in inter Government NZRB, RITA, Tab gravy train rattled. Did not take much did it? seems live rent free in those peoples heads,  pretty well. Funny thing is, do some nice we contract jobs for business owners and rich listers. Ones you dream working for. Yes still studying, having finished my BBS in Finance. However have some really nice job offers down the track both here and Aussie. But hey! keep up with the threats. Its only thing got going for you! 

[Gospel of Judas]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Nasty nasty!  Obviously as an owner at the coal face you aren't too happy with the NZRB/RITA/TAB NZ results.

I guess you are easily fooled by the rebranding exercises and can't see that nothing has changed.

Pretty weak really, say type not got balls to meet you in person. Nothing we inter management- spin doctor type. Type never see on Racecourse, bar hiding in some corporate box. 

[nomates]

25 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

It will be interesting around the table at divvy up time.  Will there be an argument put forward by NZTR that because they have the largest piece of the pie that they should get more than their contribution because they have greater costs e.g. a COO, a new Marketing team, a new IT system?

But if they haven't divvied up the pie yet how did they know to increase stakes ?

[Chief Stipe]

25 minutes ago, nomates said:

But if they haven't divvied up the pie yet how did they know to increase stakes ?

Very good point.  I'm picking they went "OK the total pie is bigger and we will at least get the same size piece as last season".

But there is no budget, no published parameters by which anyone can measure NZTR’s plan for the coming season.

There is SFA on NZTR’S website other than a copy of a spreadsheet with race dates.  

I don't think I've ever seen so little in the way of published plans and programmes for a coming season.  It all looks ad hoc.  I'm wondering if Saundry is way out of his depth because he is sure as he'll making Purcell look like an extraordinary transparent and able communicator and Manager!

[nomates]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Very good point.  I'm picking they went "OK the total pie is bigger and we will at least get the same size piece as last season".

But there is no budget, no published parameters by which anyone can measure NZTR’s plan for the coming season.

There is SFA on NZTR’S website other than a copy of a spreadsheet with race dates.  

I don't think I've ever seen so little in the way of published plans and programmes a coming season.  It all looks ad hoc.  I'm wondering if Saundry is way out of his depth because he is sure as he'll making Purcell look like an extraordinary transparent and able communicator and Manager!

It's all good because we are " PROBABLY " going to an increase next season as well , ye hah .

[nomates]

I know we'll ask JJ , he'll know , come in JJ , have they just said , " you know what we are " PROBABLY " gona get more money this season so lets just go for it , like every thing else we do " .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, nomates said:

It's all good because we are " PROBABLY " going to an increase next season as well , ye hah .

Based on what?  Doing the same as this past year or so?  You can't cut much more cost out so the only way to increase stakes is to increase revenue.  

Please don't tell me they are going to use pillaged capital assets to fund stakes!

Which brings me to my next chestnut.  All our major tracks need extensive renovations.  Where is the funding coming from and when will the work be done?

The irony is they are either closing down perfectly good racing surfaces or underutilising them.  Foxton for example.

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, nomates said:

I know we'll ask JJ , he'll know , come in JJ , have they just said , " you know what we are " PROBABLY " gona get more money this season so lets just go for it , like every thing else we do " .

[NZRacing]

I see they are paying starting money 5th to 10th now not 5th to 14th. At least that will stop NZTR clipping the ticket in a situation like Cambridge Synthetic track when field size is limited to 12 runners. False advertising a stake at 10k when the most they will payout is $9,600 and the bottom line is the Stake advertised should show only stake money paid 1st - 4th placed runners. 

[NZRacing]

Please stop quoting what that clown JJ posts. Thankfully I have him/her on ignore but sadly that doesn't stop having to see his/her diatribe of dribble when quoted. At least reading above he/she has come out of the closet as the NZ TAB's number 1 cheerleader. 

[mikeynz]

21 minutes ago, NZRacing said:

I see they are paying starting money 5th to 10th now not 5th to 14th. At least that will stop NZTR clipping the ticket in a situation like Cambridge Synthetic track when field size is limited to 12 runners. False advertising a stake at 10k when the most they will payout is $9,600 and the bottom line is the Stake advertised should show only stake money paid 1st - 4th placed runners. 

Not many fields are over 12 these days,maybe they have factored that in😀,smart thinkers.

[Gospel of Judas]

On 7/07/2021 at 12:40 PM, mikeynz said:

Not many fields are over 12 these days,maybe they have factored that in😀,smart thinkers.

Don't worry if get any smaller, Ambulance might qualify! 

[Gospel of Judas]

On 6/07/2021 at 5:09 PM, Chief Stipe said:

Very good point.  I'm picking they went "OK the total pie is bigger and we will at least get the same size piece as last season".

But there is no budget, no published parameters by which anyone can measure NZTR’s plan for the coming season.

There is SFA on NZTR’S website other than a copy of a spreadsheet with race dates.  

I don't think I've ever seen so little in the way of published plans and programmes for a coming season.  It all looks ad hoc.  I'm wondering if Saundry is way out of his depth because he is sure as he'll making Purcell look like an extraordinary transparent and able communicator and Manager!

Most likely think can print some money, like the Ardern Government, so, it all goes away.

[Gospel of Judas]

On 6/07/2021 at 3:55 PM, nomates said:

As ever passing on life skills and knowledge in your own eloquent way .

For such a great person, our Rita person, can't even publish a spreadsheet, budget , excel sheet or Xero printout. Because of cause, it is mostly likely a "Beautiful Lie" . Say true ones of those, the bank would have and most likely not very pretty picture of reality.

[NZRacing]

Interesting to see NZTR have done what they should have from day 1. It was bullshit to falsely advertise a 10k stake, the game is hard enough without having 7% clipped from winning stake money.

If you won a race and were paid $400 less in winning stake on principal should be hitting NZTR to pay it. Owners shouldn't be penalised due to a race field safety limit.   

Cambridge June 30th 10k maiden winning stake. Race safety limit 12 runners (full field started).

  

 

 

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Posted July 7

I see they are paying starting money 5th to 10th now (from August) not 5th to 14th. At least that will stop NZTR clipping the ticket in a situation like Cambridge Synthetic track when field size is limited to 12 runners. False advertising a stake at 10k when the most they will payout is $9,600 and the bottom line is the Stake advertised should show only stake money paid 1st - 4th placed runners. 

Cambridge July 14th 10k maiden winning stake. Race safety limit 12 runners (full field started).

[JJ Flash]

On 6/07/2021 at 5:14 PM, nomates said:

I know we'll ask JJ , he'll know , come in JJ , have they just said , " you know what we are " PROBABLY " gona get more money this season so lets just go for it , like every thing else we do "

NZTAB payout to codes for 21/22 season is 173.6 mio just as i thought and who is going to do well TB's  as Harness are crowing about getting an extra 3.1 mio of which 2.7 has to go to increased stakes.

I could explain why there  might be more code distributions but it would likely only induce more  replies from the nutters who seem to have got this all wrong so far. Are you one of those Bob?

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

NZTAB payout to codes for 21/22 season is 173.6 mio

No it isn't.  That's just a promise.  A promise without many reserves in the kitty and still a significant amount of debt.

But I guess these types of nuances are beyond you.

Liken it to Stakes being paid on a PAYEE basis.

[JJ Flash]

How are you and Howie getting on , about as well as you and Pitty perhaps??

Can you tell us more about Te Akau being based at Rangiora know it all , and you have the audacity of attacking what few  posters frequent the place. 

You really are an uninformed  tosser