Racing Today 1 September 2021 - 2 NZ and 5 OZ meetings.

[nomates]

On 1/09/2021 at 2:47 PM, Huey said:

Pools in NZ are certainly looking smaller? than usual,  thought there might have been a pick up given the break.

Pools very small today again , has to be an access to having a bet that is the problem , or maybe all the Aussie punters aren't up yet .

[Huey]

1 minute ago, nomates said:

Pools very small today again , has to be an access to having a bet that is the problem , or maybe all the Aussie punters aren't up yet .

Yes 11k & 5k in the 2yo at Wanganui, however probably put that down to lack of form. But the next at TR doesn't look inspiring.

[Gospel of Judas]

What is point punting on NZ Racing? unless got good information or know someone in the know. To risky and going lose money. Why stuffall money in these NZ pools. Plus all money be on the fixed odds.

[nomates]

If we need conformation , 10 mins out from the Foxbridge with some nice horses racing and there is only 7k in both the win/place pools .

[nomates]

19 minutes ago, nomates said:

If we need conformation , 10 mins out from the Foxbridge with some nice horses racing and there is only 7k in both the win/place pools .

pool got out to about 25k , R3 at the Valley win pool 300k .

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, nomates said:

pool got out to about 25k

Just the Win pool?

[nomates]

Just now, Chief Stipe said:

Just the Win pool?

Yep , wouldn't know what the bookies held .

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, nomates said:

Yep , wouldn't know what the bookies held .

Well wouldn't they need a total of $1,500,000 in turnover to clear enough to cover the Stake?

[Huey]

3 hours ago, nomates said:

pool got out to about 25k , R3 at the Valley win pool 300k .

Wow that is a real worry, have to think today a few short priced favs missed out so the bookies must have been happy on it. However 25k for a race like that sums up well where we are heading.

[nomates]

34 minutes ago, Huey said:

Wow that is a real worry

That is very polite , if i were running NZ racing i would crapping myself if this is the new norm .

I do believe Covid is playing a large part in people not being able to get bets on and deposit money .

[Huey]

9 minutes ago, nomates said:

That is very polite , if i were running NZ racing i would crapping myself if this is the new norm .

I do believe Covid is playing a large part in people not being able to get bets on and deposit money .

For the sake of the industry certainly hope so.

[curious]

4 hours ago, nomates said:

pool got out to about 25k , R3 at the Valley win pool 300k .

Gosh. BF had over 18k win matched on the Foxbridge and 22k place. They'll pass the TAB tote soon at that rate.

[Ludwig]

Hard to see the Ashburton meeting on Monday turning over big bucks. They certainly got the short straw.

[Freda]

33 minutes ago, Ludwig said:

Hard to see the Ashburton meeting on Monday turning over big bucks. They certainly got the short straw.

Yeah.

It's actually the CJC meeting shifted from today.

[curious]

Doesn't seem that long ago that NZTR thought Monday racing was going to save us.

 

[nomates]

1 hour ago, curious said:

Doesn't seem that long ago that NZTR thought Monday racing was going to save us.

 

Yeah but then they got given 3 buckets of sand .

[Freda]

10 hours ago, nomates said:

That is very polite , if i were running NZ racing i would crapping myself if this is the new norm .

I do believe Covid is playing a large part in people not being able to get bets on and deposit money .

Do you think so?

I'm no punter, just have the occasional (very) small wager, but Covid-19 has zero impact on me being able to deposit funds, and then having that little bet.

Surely any serious punter would find it just as easy?

[curious]

Absolutely no difference for me getting bets on (80 odd bets since Wednesday) Don't see why Covid would change that.

Edited September 4, 2021 by curious

[Huey]

2 hours ago, Freda said:

Do you think so?

I'm no punter, just have the occasional (very) small wager, but Covid-19 has zero impact on me being able to deposit funds, and then having that little bet.

Surely any serious punter would find it just as easy?

Perhaps it shows just how dependent we are on those smaller punters that go along week in week out ,who may not be bothered with the card deposits.

[curious]

3 minutes ago, Huey said:

Perhaps it shows just how dependent we are on those smaller punters that go along week in week out ,who may not be bothered with the card deposits.

I think if they can't be bothered, especially in lock down, we certainly shouldn't be relying on them.

[Huey]

4 minutes ago, curious said:

I think if they can't be bothered, especially in lock down, we certainly shouldn't be relying on them.

I dont think beggars can be choosers. 

[curious]

Globally last year, overall gambling reduced because of lack of access to land based gambling. In NZ, that had a positive impact subsequently on problem gambling. A post lock down re-assessment in June 2020, found that reduction in gambling relative to pre-pandemic was maintained, and that the proportion worrying about their gambling reduced from 17% during the lockdown to 11%.

[Huey]

29 minutes ago, curious said:

Globally last year, overall gambling reduced because of lack of access to land based gambling. In NZ, that had a positive impact subsequently on problem gambling. A post lock down re-assessment in June 2020, found that reduction in gambling relative to pre-pandemic was maintained, and that the proportion worrying about their gambling reduced from 17% during the lockdown to 11%.

Yes instead of worrying about their gambling, the lockdowns made them worry about their livelihoods. 

[Chief Stipe]

But didn't the NZ TAB show an increase in turnover during the last lockdown?  That being part of the reason for a slightly improved result turnover wise?

 

[nomates]

3 hours ago, Freda said:

Do you think so?

I'm no punter, just have the occasional (very) small wager, but Covid-19 has zero impact on me being able to deposit funds, and then having that little bet.

Surely any serious punter would find it just as easy?

A large portion of our punters are just working class low wage earners , go into any pubtab or TAB and have a look around , large majority go to the TAB and bet thru a few hours , especially in pub tabs , i see a large number just walk into my TAB and put their bets on for the day then go home to watch .

The change to minimum cost bets on phone bet stopped people having them and either stopping or just putting a few on at start of the day .

A lot of low wage earners don't have credit cards so even if they do have phone accts can't top up .

So if people can't access putting bets on at start of day or access topping up accts then i can see how it would impact turnover .

I'm not saying this is the full answer but i can see it being in some way part of it .

I hope .