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Chief Stipe Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 The Invitation race is a brand new $2 million Special Condition (invitation-only) race for fillies and mares held at Randwick in Sydney on the same day as Melbourne's coveted Cox Plate. 2021 The Invitation Results 1st: TBD 2nd: TBD 3rd: TBD The Invitation News Likely $2 Million The Invitation Call-Up For 2021 Golden Pendant Winner Vangelic 2021 Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes Results: Sierra Sue Scores Upset Win Entriviere Enters Invitation Calculations with Sheraco Stakes Win The $2 million The Invitation is a brand new event contested at Royal Randwick on Bondi Stakes Day in late October as part of the now $50 million The Everest Carnival in the spring. Sydney’s marquee race for fillies and mares, The Invitation will be contested over 1400m by a 12-starter field of female gallopers that have been exclusively invited to take part. The inaugural edition of The Invitation will run on October 23, 2021 and the event will be run at set weights with penalties. Racing NSW will convene a panel of racing experts to decide on which fillies and mares from around Australia and New Zealand will be invited to take part in the race. The Invitation will run alongside the $1 million Bondi Stakes (1600m) for three-year-olds. The inaugural running of the 2021 The Invitation takes place at Randwick on Saturday October 23rd, 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 All of these flash new races are starting to detract from some established group races. We are seeing some pretty ordinary fields going around in some of the group 2s and 3s especially, and even some group 1s. I pressure the Invitation isn't a group race since it is invitation only. There may need to be a culling of some existing group races as these new races are group races in all but name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Doomed said: All of these flash new races are starting to detract from some established group races. We are seeing some pretty ordinary fields going around in some of the group 2s and 3s especially, and even some group 1s. I pressure the Invitation isn't a group race since it is invitation only. There may need to be a culling of some existing group races as these new races are group races in all but name. Fortunately they have the depth to still get reasonable fields , 2/3 of our better ones go AWOL and you get yesterdays Livamol field yesterday . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 NSWSaturday Racing Berry confident Entriviere can secure The Invitation Smart New Zealand mare Entriviere is the favourite for the inaugural The Invitation at Randwick. Picture: Trish Dunell By Ray Thomas08:22pm • 18 October 2021 Comments Star jockey Tommy Berry believes he has landed on the right horses with Entriviere and Hilal to claim a multimillion-dollar feature race double at Royal Randwick on Saturday. The final field of 12 for the inaugural running of the $2 million The Invitation (1400m) for fillies and mares was announced by Racing NSW on Monday with Entriviere coming up a dominant $2.50 TAB Fixed Odds favourite. Hilal is the $4.50 favourite for the $1 million Bondi Stakes (1600m) behind the horse he beat last start in Coastwatch at $3.50. After narrowly missing out on the Kosciuszko/The Everest double, jockey Tommy Berry ha strong chances in The Invitation and Bondi Stakes. Picture: Getty Images Berry, who just missed riding a big-race brace at Randwick last Saturday when he won The Kosciuszko on Art Cadeau then rode Masked Crusader to a close second in The Everest, is the new rider of boom Kiwi mare Entriviere, replacing James McDonald who is in Melbourne to ride Zaaki in the Cox Plate. The Jamie Richards-trained Entriviere has been kept fresh for The Invitation since her unlucky third in the Golden Pendant behind Vangelic at Rosehill Gardens. Entriviere had to make a long, wide run from back in the field and nearly defied the pattern of the day to finish a close third, recording 32.5s for her final 600, the fastest closing sectional of the meeting. “I believe she is the best mare in the race,” said Berry on Sky Thoroughbred Central’s This Week, Next Week on Monday evening. “She was really good two starts back in the Sheraco Stakes at Kembla (Grange) then she had to go back from her wide alley in a moderately run race (at Rosehill). “But she sprinted home really well from the 600m to the 200m but then it was impossible for her to make up that ground and run any quicker, the times suggest that. Tommy Berry rides Hilal in the Bondi Stakes. Picture: Getty Images “I hope she can draw a better barrier and if there is any rain around, that will suit, too.” Racing NSW announced the final field for The Invitation which includes top class mares Icebath, Vangelic, Media Award, Sweet Deal, Madam Legend and Nudge, plus talented Queensland filly Startantes. It’s a measure of the quality of the race when proven top class mares Forbidden Lodge, Madam Rouge, Rocha Clock and Tricky Gal are $21 rank outsiders. The Team Hawkes-trained Hilal was twice Group 1 placed as a two-year-old as his value as a commercial stallion prospect soared when he won the Group 2 Stan Fox Stakes, beating Coastwatch, last start. Berry said the Stan Fox Stakes is the right form race for the Bondi Stakes and he would not swap Hilal for any other three-year-old in the race. “Hilal is going to meeting the same sort of horses in the Bondi Stakes that he beat the other day,” Berry said. “Coastwatch seems to have the perfect run that day and my bloke went a bit keen and did a bit wrong but still won. “I feel Hilal has more improvement to come and will take beating, that is for sure.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Geezus Berry slaughtered Entriviere today , that was a horror story of a ride , 2mil up and he does that , i hope he has apologized bigtime to the connections , no idea why he felt he had to go forward , she has a huge sprint when patiently ridden , he obviously didn't bother doing his homework on her , fantastic effort to run 4th , I hope she gets her reward . I'm sure JMac will give Berry heaps when he gets a chance to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, nomates said: Geezus Berry slaughtered Entriviere today , that was a horror story of a ride , 2mil up and he does that , i hope he has apologized bigtime to the connections , no idea why he felt he had to go forward , she has a huge sprint when patiently ridden , he obviously didn't bother doing his homework on her , fantastic effort to run 4th , I hope she gets her reward . I'm sure JMac will give Berry heaps when he gets a chance to . I thought his ride was good.She wasn't good enough today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, holy ravioli said: I thought his ride was good.She wasn't good enough today. Don't know many horses that can do the work she did through the first 700 meters and kick on to win . But we all see things through different eyes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Think problem with her, is that people rated her up like that. Jockey tried to ride her like grand champion, and she not a grand champion. Got beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, nomates said: Don't know many horses that can do the work she did through the first 700 meters and kick on to win . But we all see things through different eyes . Have another look... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Have another look... I'm not blind , I seen it more than once , seeing it again won't change my mind , happy to disagree . I'm a hard marker of jockeys , I put too much work into my horses just to see them slaughtered without so much as a half apology , and be told next time , it was ready this time you Feckwit . Very frustrating . As I said we all see things differently and from different angles . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, nomates said: I'm not blind , I seen it more than once , seeing it again won't change my mind , happy to disagree . I'm a hard marker of jockeys , I put too much work into my horses just to see them slaughtered without so much as a half apology , and be told next time , it was ready this time you Feckwit . Very frustrating . As I said we all see things differently and from different angles . Sure to my eyes...she got a good possie early with little work,on the pace if she was good enough. I suspect this was planned as in previous starts she had too much ground to make up. Agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 It's all about sectionals. I'm not getting into a brick-throwing contest, but even the good ones get it wrong sometimes....and there is only an incremental difference, often, between horses of high class. When lengths are sold and when they are bought is what tells the tale, because if they are sold too cheap and bought too dear the horse will get beaten. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Freda said: It's all about sectionals. I'm not getting into a brick-throwing contest, but even the good ones get it wrong sometimes....and there is only an incremental difference, often, between horses of high class. When lengths are sold and when they are bought is what tells the tale, because if they are sold too cheap and bought too dear the horse will get beaten. Ran the last 600 off the front in 34.67 , suggests the front one's done they're work early , when she ran 3rd at her last start she came from 9th to be beaten by a cpl of lengths yet they ran 33.02 off the front which made her run huge , so ridden a bit more patiently ala Icebath things would have been different , but Icebath is a smart mare so maybe 2nd would have been her best . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, nomates said: Don't know many horses that can do the work she did through the first 700 meters and kick on to win . But we all see things through different eyes . We all see things differently to @holy ravioli! In my opinion an odd ride from Berry. Only horse asked to sprint three times in the race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Freda said: It's all about sectionals. I'm not getting into a brick-throwing contest, but even the good ones get it wrong sometimes....and there is only an incremental difference, often, between horses of high class. When lengths are sold and when they are bought is what tells the tale, because if they are sold too cheap and bought too dear the horse will get beaten. But he didn't need to go forward to sit outside Vangelic. His reason was the pace slackened and she pulled. The pace slackening was in his favour being on the pace. He had cover but decided to go and put pressure on the leader. That was the mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: But he didn't need to go forward to sit outside Vangelic. His reason was the pace slackened and she pulled. The pace slackening was in his favour being on the pace. He had cover but decided to go and put pressure on the leader. That was the mistake. Exactly. He didn't read the speed accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Freda said: Exactly. He didn't read the speed accurately. No I doubt that someone of Berry's skill and experience misjudged the speed. I'd say he suffered from the "I'm riding the hot favourite and best horse in the field syndrome". The one that says you just need to turn up to win. Winx was good but Bowman very rarely didn't look after her and if he didnt that was more others doing than his riding of her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: No I doubt that someone of Berry's skill and experience misjudged the speed. I'd say he suffered from the "I'm riding the hot favourite and best horse in the field syndrome". The one that says you just need to turn up to win. Winx was good but Bowman very rarely didn't look after her and if he didnt that was more others doing than his riding of her. They can all misjudge pace. They are, after all, only human. Remember Lonhro and Grand Armee ? A champion beaten who shouldn't have been. And that's my last word on the matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Freda said: They can all misjudge pace. They are, after all, only human. Remember Lonhro and Grand Armee ? A champion beaten who shouldn't have been. And that's my last word on the matter. Grand Armee was a pretty useful animal!Another of the famous Belle family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I do think Entriviere is a bit over rated. I was surprised she was so short. The Aussies do tend to slightly over rate NZ group form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Doomed said: I do think Entriviere is a bit over rated. I was surprised she was so short. The Aussies do tend to slightly over rate NZ group form. You could be right but only had 4 runs in Aus and had a tough run in 3 of them , when she got decent run she brained them in the Sheraco , might not be genuine Aus G1 but she's not far away , it's tough beating those Aussies at their own game , sprinting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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