holy ravioli Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: He was my neigh bour! I was in awe of him, one day I followed the FBI down to the tie ups, they had one in each hand, Super, Schillaci, Subbie, Naturalism, Tawriffic, Mannerism, Pontormo, Gatherneaux, Azzurro, Durbridge, a stablehand had two.......with due respect to Chris W he will never know what it's like to have quality like that in your back yard, and that's where that lot lived......those days will never be replicated........they were awesome...... Which of those is better than Winx,Nature Strip and or VE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: I was in awe of him, one day I followed the FBI down to the tie ups, they had one in each hand, Super, Schillaci, Subbie, Naturalism, Tawriffic, Mannerism, Pontormo, Gatherneaux, Azzurro, Durbridge, a stablehand had two.. Well that is a fantastic line-up. I loved seeing horses like Schillaci go . A bit like Gammalite the pacer , didn't always win but just gave such an honest account of themselves everytime , they're just a people's Favourite. you could get a bet on now and then for the punter too. Here's the Grey Flash , going now for yet another fine Win . as a treat for Joe !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Which of those is better than Winx,Nature Strip and or VE? Well that's contentious isn't it Pasta boy, but you see, all those wonderful Gr1 winners were looking over their doors at the same time, can you imagine that........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bid said: Madame Shinko Lee Tiley Te Rapa At a guess Hayden Allen leading her, it's too skinny for me and I never took her to Te Rapa. Right with the horse and Jockey. Although she was Lee Rutherford then (a nice bunch of good looking women in that family!). Te Rapa wrong. I'll make it easier for you - Lee only rode her at Avondale in an Open 2100m and in the G3 Rotorua Cup at Rotorua. She ran third both times. Came from last on the turn up the inside on a swoopers track and beaten I think a neck and nose. Just past the post she was in front. It might of been Hayden. Sadly he passed away. 25 different Jockey's rode Madame Shinko with one Jockey - an apprentice winning the most with 3 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: He was my neigh bour! I was in awe of him, one day I followed the FBI down to the tie ups, they had one in each hand, Super, Schillaci, Subbie, Naturalism, Tawriffic, Mannerism, Pontormo, Gatherneaux, Azzurro, Durbridge, a stablehand had two.......with due respect to Chris W he will never know what it's like to have quality like that in your back yard, and that's where that lot lived......those days will never be replicated........they were awesome...... I don't think I'd be too unhappy if I was Chris Waller with the cattle he has. Over AU$27 million in stakes won so far this season i.e. half way with the rich Autumn Carnival yet to come. Nature Strip, Verry Elleegant, Espiona and Home Affairs would be more than enough for you to handle Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Well that's contentious isn't it Pasta boy, but you see, all those wonderful Gr1 winners were looking over their doors at the same time, can you imagine that........ So were Winx, Nature Strip, Verry Elleegant, Kolding and a few other Gr1 winners. I think I posted last year a video of a trial that was dominated by Waller's team and there was well over 20 Grp 1 wins amongst his starters. Let alone the stakes money in the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Here is an easy question: Which of all the horses trained by TJ Smith was his favourite? What was the remarkable achievement of this horse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Here is an easy question: Which of all the horses trained by TJ Smith was his favourite? What was the remarkable achievement of this horse? Tulloch, Tulloch, and Tulloch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I don't think I'd be too unhappy if I was Chris Waller with the cattle he has. Over AU$27 million in stakes won so far this season i.e. half way with the rich Autumn Carnival yet to come. Nature Strip, Verry Elleegant, Espiona and Home Affairs would be more than enough for you to handle Joe. Well we get back to that old conundrum don't we, the class of horse that the lot I mention had to beat was lengths superior to the lot you've mentioned above.......those horses of the 80's and 90's were unreal, not flying welter horses like todays mob.....I just hope Waller doesn't weaken and he takes VE to Royal Ascot, or please God, The Ark......I just think it's a vastly different scene now, to what it was.........prizemoney is irrelevant Chief, if you convert say what Super Impose earned to today's dollar, same with many back then, it comes down to what you saw as against to what you see now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Well we get back to that old conundrum don't we, the class of horse that the lot I mention had to beat was lengths superior to the lot you've mentioned above.......those horses of the 80's and 90's were unreal, not flying welter horses like todays mob.....I just hope Waller doesn't weaken and he takes VE to Royal Ascot, or please God, The Ark......I just think it's a vastly different scene now, to what it was.........prizemoney is irrelevant Chief, if you convert say what Super Impose earned to today's dollar, same with many back then, it comes down to what you saw as against to what you see now...... I hear what you are saying but I don't agree. You could throw a blanket over most of the Grp1 fields today at the finish. The sectionals they can run are phenomenal and that is on slower tracks than yesteryear. Verry Elleegant and Winx would in my opinion would beat many of the champions of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Tulloch, Tulloch, and Tulloch. Buzz....wrong. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Buzz....wrong. Try again. Bragger! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Joe Bloggs said: Bragger! Just beat me to it , bugger . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Ist prize is a week in AKL.......2nd prize, 2 weeks in AKL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 So you both give up? Geez and I thought both you and nomates were TJ accolytes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Joe Bloggs said: Ist prize is a week in AKL.......2nd prize, 2 weeks in AKL. 3rd prize , 3 weeks at chiefs place . AAARRRGGGHHH . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 You want a clue? The only portrait of a horse that Mrs Smith allowed to be hung in her home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You want a clue? The only portrait of a horse that Mrs Smith allowed to be hung in her home. All those Cox Plates was remarkable achievement ? Kingston Town ? Edited February 10, 2022 by Gammalite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gammalite said: All those Cox Plates was remarkable achievement ? Kingston Town ? Nope. TJ was the first to do this with this horse and I'm not sure anyone has done it since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bid Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Right with the horse and Jockey. Although she was Lee Rutherford then (a nice bunch of good looking women in that family!). Te Rapa wrong. I'll make it easier for you - Lee only rode her at Avondale in an Open 2100m and in the G3 Rotorua Cup at Rotorua. She ran third both times. Came from last on the turn up the inside on a swoopers track and beaten I think a neck and nose. Just past the post she was in front. It might of been Hayden. Sadly he passed away. 25 different Jockey's rode Madame Shinko with one Jockey - an apprentice winning the most with 3 wins. Hayden passed away 7 years ago yesterday, how time flys by. I lived with him for 5 years, geez we had some good times. The apprentice was Renee Fraser, won on her on debut at Otaki, I took her over and knew leading her in the birdcage she would win, just had so much presence about her, paid about $30s from memory. Geez we got boozed on the truck on the way home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Playboy, or Delta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bid said: Hayden passed away 7 years ago yesterday, how time flys by. I lived with him for 5 years, geez we had some good times. The apprentice was Renee Fraser, won on her on debut at Otaki, I took her over and knew leading her in the birdcage she would win, just had so much presence about her, paid about $30s from memory. Geez we got boozed on the truck on the way home! $36 actually. I had a new girlfriend at the time. I asked Jim Wallace how she would go and Jim said "she'll go Ok but I don't expect her to win - a good 4th would be great".... So I backed off the punt and put $10 E/W on her for the girlfriend! Jim got a ring straight after the race from his sister I think it was in Australia who backed her having seen her work when she was back in NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Playboy, or Delta? Lost me on that but I'd say neither. Another clue Female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Gotta Be Bounding Away, he named his stables after Tulloch and her........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Gotta Be Bounding Away, he named his stables after Tulloch and her........ You got it. Mrs Smith allowed a portait of her to be hung above the fireplace in the living room. What was special about her achievement on the race course? What was special about her Slipper win that was a first and I don't think has happened again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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