This Scum Excuse for a Journalist Needs to Either Put Up or Shut Up!

[Chief Stipe]

@Archie Butterfly Either post your slanderous crap in an open forum with evidence or STFU.

[the galah]

One can't help but think you are giving a lot of oxygen to this archie butterflys views and publications.

Still, promoting a conversation around the use of performance enhancers does has its positives,even though i think by continually referring to the dunn stable you have done that stable more harm than good.

Actually i had never given any thought to sundee sons winning the dominion handicap,and had never given any thought as to the dunn stable and performance enhancers. Its not something i personally had considered.

But your highlighting in this thread sundee son winning the dominion and breaking the nz record by  4.9 seconds does make me wonder how does that happen?

I just used to go on what i saw to form an opinion,but when you analyse it,how does a horse improve so much? I just had a look back at some of the media coverage,and "staggering" seems to be a common word. Deeply shocking and astonishing is the definition of staggering.

Keep up the good work chief. People need to ask questions when they see out of the ordinary performances.

Edited February 11, 2022 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

7 hours ago, the galah said:

Still, promoting a conversation around the use of performance enhancers does has its positives,even though i think by continually referring to the dunn stable you have done that stable more harm than good.

It isn't I that is continually referring to the Dunn stable it is the likes of Butterfly and others that hide behind private online forums and paywalls.  It is better for it to bought out into the open and challenged head on.  There is no evidence of what is alleged.

7 hours ago, the galah said:

But your highlighting in this thread sundee son winning the dominion and breaking the nz record by  4.9 seconds does make me wonder how does that happen?

I never took you for being duplicitous nor sanctimonious but perhaps I was wrong.  In every generation there is a champion horse that sets a new standard Sundee's Son is one such animal.  You may wonder all you like but what I've stated is a fact.  I can list (as can @Gammalite) numerous champions of past eras that have done exactly the same thing as Sundee's Son.

 

7 hours ago, the galah said:

I just used to go on what i saw to form an opinion,but when you analyse it,how does a horse improve so much? I just had a look back at some of the media coverage,and "staggering" seems to be a common word. Deeply shocking and astonishing is the definition of staggering.

The use of the word "staggering" is just hyperbole - the media are prone to use it.  Michael Guerin can't write a sentence without it and exaggeration and embellishment. 

I remember many instances of "staggering" performances over the years.  I've been fortunate to see many on course.  One that springs to mind was the performance of Lord Module winning the Alan Matson Free-For-All in world record time.  I saw that race in the Owner/Trainer stand and there were seasoned Trainers with stop watches who were absolutely speechless - the term stunned mullet came to mind.

In the absence of any evidence to the contrary why diminish a great champion by inferring there has been cheating?

[Chief Stipe]

7 hours ago, the galah said:

But your highlighting in this thread sundee son winning the dominion and breaking the nz record by  4.9 seconds does make me wonder how does that happen?

I can understand why you would think that because your idiosyncratic form analysis would offer no alternative.

Sundees Son has shown exceptional ability from his first season - he ran 1:58 for a mile as a 2 year old.  Like most trotters his consistency and performance has improved with age.

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

I can list (as can @Gammalite) numerous champions of past eras that have done exactly the same thing as Sundee's Son.

Recruit would represent my 2 cents.