Nowornever Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 RON MCKINLEY - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer T Yesberg advised the gelding had been freshened since last racing and had trialled well in preparation for tonight's assignment. Are the stipes just questioning because of the price the horse paid. Do they not even take into consideration the horses previous performances before asking why the the horse has improved. The horse runs a cracking race to win first up at Addington and then breaks up in it's previous two races over stand starts on different courses and finishes well back. Tonight it starts again at Addington in a mobile and paces all the way without breaking and the stipes ask why it has improved. Even blind freddy can see why the horse has gone much better tonight behind the mobile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 But then some would complain if the question wasn't asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 There are so many of them (stipes) around these days that they have to be kept employed. Even stipe at a meeting who is not actually at the meeting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 What skills would someone need to become a stipe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: What skills would someone need to become a stipe? An open mind and good eyesight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: An open mind and good eyesight. No wonder there is so many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: What skills would someone need to become a stipe? Absolutely an ability to decipher if the horse is making the error , or the driver . (or the trainer) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: But then some would complain if the question wasn't asked. Why? It is obvious just by looking at the horses previous starts. On that basis every horse who has not placed in the last few starts who then wins should be asked the improvement question but I can tell you now that is not happening. In this case they are either: A) Targeting the trainer B) Just token asking because of the price and hoping to appease disgruntled punters getting off on conspiracy agendas. C) Just asking to make it look they are doing something. And what happens if the trainer can not explain the improvement in form.....NOTHING! It is a waste of time even asking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Why? It is obvious just by looking at the horses previous starts. On that basis every horse who has not placed in the last few starts who then wins should be asked the improvement question but I can tell you now that is not happening. In this case they are either: A) Targeting the trainer B) Just token asking because of the price and hoping to appease disgruntled punters getting off on conspiracy agendas. C) Just asking to make it look they are doing something. And what happens if the trainer can not explain the improvement in form.....NOTHING! It is a waste of time even asking! I agree with what you are saying. Generally those disgruntled conspiratorial punters can't read form anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: I agree with what you are saying. Generally those disgruntled conspiratorial punters can't read form anyway! Just to give some idea on how bad these stipes are and there are dozens of cases every few months but this is a recent one. Bright Glow ran a top fourth on the 11 February at Addington running the 2600m in 3-20.2 2 days later on the 13th February in a weaker rated field it won running the 2600m in 3-23.1 and the stipes go: BRIGHT GLOW - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer/driver I Cameron advised the mare had thrived on a busy racing programme recently and had been suited by the slower tempo of today's race. Now how the stipes think it has improved when it was a bigger run the start prior and has also run three seconds slower than that previous start is a mystery to me. I am of the opinion they are either incompetent and just going through the motions or just don't care! Either way they need to lift their game. I am quite happy to keep pointing out their inconsistencies until they do! Edited February 25, 2022 by Nowornever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Just to give some idea on how bad these stipes are and there are dozens of cases every few months but this is a recent one. Bright Glow ran a top fourth on the 11 February at Addington running the 2600m in 3-20.2 2 days later on the 13th February in a weaker rated field it won running the 2600m in 3-23.1 and the stipes go: BRIGHT GLOW - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer/driver I Cameron advised the mare had thrived on a busy racing programme recently and had been suited by the slower tempo of today's race. Now how the stipes think it has improved when it was a bigger run the start prior and has also run three seconds slower than that previous start is a mystery to me. I am of the opinion they are either incompetent and just going through the motions or just don't care! Either way they need to lift their game. I am quite happy to keep pointing out their inconsistencies until they do! They don't understand sectionals and reading a race. Keep pointing out the inconsistencies - I do know for a fact that they do read what is posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 19 hours ago, Nowornever said: RON MCKINLEY - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer T Yesberg advised the gelding had been freshened since last racing and had trialled well in preparation for tonight's assignment. Are the stipes just questioning because of the price the horse paid. Do they not even take into consideration the horses previous performances before asking why the the horse has improved. The horse runs a cracking race to win first up at Addington and then breaks up in it's previous two races over stand starts on different courses and finishes well back. Tonight it starts again at Addington in a mobile and paces all the way without breaking and the stipes ask why it has improved. Even blind freddy can see why the horse has gone much better tonight behind the mobile. Personally i think if they should have asked the question. Punters deserve to be informed when a horse has a complete turn around in form.. The previous start it paced awful the whole way and broke for no apparent reason with 250m to go. It had trialed poorly prior to that run. O.K. it had gone ok at a recent trial,but the more information the punter has the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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