Reefton Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 It appears the Dargaville saga might be resolved Regardless of an outcome that may be acceptable(to the Club and district) it is utterly tragic that a Club and venue that is still quite ready and able to continue racing has been closed. Does NZ Racing have that big a surplus of enthusiastic people that we can just cast a bunch aside? And when I went to submit the Reefton submission on the mediation process to Internal Affairs on Tuesday(deadline day - as usual with me) I find that the stated email address doesn't work. Tell me we aren't working with government departments! They had to acknowledge it and extend the deadline to today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Seems like a good outcome both for racing and the community. Edited April 28, 2022 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Reefton said: Regardless of an outcome that may be acceptable(to the Club and district) it is utterly tragic that a Club and venue that is still quite ready and able to continue racing has been closed. From what I saw from my last drive by a couple of years ago Dargaville was well short of being ready to race. 80kms away is Ruakaka - I hope in the agreement Dargaville demanded that Ruakaka gets a fair cut of the whip from here on in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, curious said: Seems like a good outcome both for racing and the community. Doubt it was to either parties real liking but imagine it was an outcome they can both live with. Nobody really wins in these scenarios but from the sounds of things Petone didn't get all their own way and that is to be applauded. This BS about Clubs owing their existence to the NZ Racing Industry is piffle. The NZ racing industry owes their existence to the Clubs not the other way around. NZ's first racemeeting(Nelson?) was because a Club had been formed to organise it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Hmmm seems odd given "Chief Executive Green Shoots" said rationalization (asset theft) was the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Huey said: Hmmm seems odd given "Chief Executive Green Shoots" said rationalization (asset theft) was the way forward. Regardless of the provisions of the Act the Industry does not want their name dragged through the mud in local media for stealing what is not morally theirs(even if it is legally theirs) There is a precedent about 180 years ago in NZ where land was taken(with the support of the crown) and we have been paying compensation back for the last fifty years to make up for it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Reefton said: There is a precedent about 180 years ago in NZ where land was taken(with the support of the crown) and we have been paying compensation back for the last fifty years to make up for it. Yes. It's known as colonisation. Hasn't worked very well in the long term anywhere I can think of. Can't see it working in racing. Not a good look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Reefton said: Regardless of the provisions of the Act the Industry does not want their name dragged through the mud in local media for stealing what is not morally theirs(even if it is legally theirs) There is a precedent about 180 years ago in NZ where land was taken(with the support of the crown) and we have been paying compensation back for the last fifty years to make up for it. Whilst I can sympathize with your reasoning , I'm still not sure that will be the case in the not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Huey said: Whilst I can sympathize with your reasoning , I'm still not sure that will be the case in the not too distant future. no only took 130 or so years to get onto it last time so suspect you are right BUT if a Club is under threat they could do worse than get the local Iwi onside on the basis that the same principle(ie theft) is being applied 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Bro Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) So racing at Dargaville is going to be immortalised with a race called the Dargaville Cup to be run each year at Ruakaka. Much the Same thing happened with racing at Takapuna. The Takapuna Jockey Club made arrangements with Auckland Racing Club for races called the Takapuna Cup, Alison Stakes and Ralph Handicap to be run at Ellerslie in perpetuity. Races with those names vanished decades ago. Edited May 3, 2022 by Delta Bro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Delta Bro said: So racing at Dargaville is going to be immortalised with a race called the Dargaville Cup to be run each year at Ruakaka. Much the Same thing happened with racing at Takapuna. The Takapuna Jockey Club made arrangements with Auckland Racing Club for races called the Takapuna Cup, Alison Stakes and Ralph Handicap to be run at Ellerslie in perpetuity. Races with those names vanished decades ago. I think the Alison hung around for quite a while, but seems to have disappeared now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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