Trainers' costs..

[Newmarket]

Another horse fell today at Timaru. I watched over a 120 races from Aus on Sat, no horse fell??

[Reefton]

3 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Another horse fell today at Timaru. I watched over a 120 races from Aus on Sat, no horse fell??

lets be fair the Melbourne Cup has hardly been exemplary for horse welfare in the last few years.  I think falls happen everywhere

[Freda]

5 hours ago, Reefton said:

lets be fair the Melbourne Cup has hardly been exemplary for horse welfare in the last few years.  I think falls happen everywhere

You're quite right.   However, the incidents that have been highlighted in the Melbourne Cup specifically are generally, sadly, horses going amiss.

I enquired of trainer Lance Robinson yesterday as to the wellbeing of his fallen runner, she seems ok so far, he said, just ran out of room.

That, IMO,  indicates a jockey issue. Someone clearly failed to steer.  And that happens far too much.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Freda

[curious]

2 hours ago, Freda said:

You're quite right.   However, the incidents that have been highlighted in the Melbourne Cup specifically are generally, sadly, horses going amiss.

I enquired of trainer Lance Robinson yesterday as to the wellbeing of his fallen runner, she seems ok so far, he said, just ran out of room.

That, IMO,  indicates a jockey issue. Someone clearly failed to steer.  And that happens far too much.

Maybe, or maybe a horse behaviour education issue. Sometimes the brakes or steering don't quite do what they are supposed to.

[curious]

THE MOTIVATOR (BB Hong) - Became awkwardly placed near heels passing the 900 metres and when being steadied shifted out clipping a heel blundering and unbalancing the rider, shifting outwards abruptly making firm contact with HIGHLAND FLING which was taken out onto SURCHARGE with HIGHLAND FLING clipping a heel and falling dislodging rider J Laking.

HIGHLAND FLING (J Laking) - Crowded clipping a heel and falling dislodging its rider passing the 900 metres. Underwent a post-race veterinary inspection which did not reveal any obvious abnormality.

[Chief Stipe]

5 minutes ago, curious said:

Maybe, or maybe a horse behaviour education issue. Sometimes the brakes or steering don't quite do what they are supposed to.

Or a lack of pace on a track without a leaders bias?

[nomates]

4 hours ago, Freda said:

That, IMO,  indicates a jockey issue. Someone clearly failed to steer.  And that happens far too much.

One only has to watch a field coming around the home turn and up the straight to see how much lateral movement happens in races here , not just near the front but further back . There is a real lack of duty of care by jockeys here .

You can often see the better jocks steering clear of the younger riders in particular , but this issue isn't confined to just the apps , or any particular part of NZ .

[Reefton]

5 hours ago, Freda said:

You're quite right.   However, the incidents that have been highlighted in the Melbourne Cup specifically are generally, sadly, horses going amiss.

I enquired of trainer Lance Robinson yesterday as to the wellbeing of his fallen runner, she seems ok so far, he said, just ran out of room.

That, IMO,  indicates a jockey issue. Someone clearly failed to steer.  And that happens far too much.

fair comment Pam but the 'going amiss' might well have had something to do with the track or lameness/pain medications being used on horses(I don't want to cast an aspersion on anyone in saying that just a fact)

And regarding jockeys well your Oxford Aunt(?) copped plenty in the 1000 Guineas and it was not your rider's fault nor(as I remember) a southern rider who jammed the anchors on in front

Sometimes falls and misfortunes happen in this game - it is just a fact of life

Though I must convey a quote from a very good West Coast Trainer of yesteryear - he used to like to have a certain well known and now retired senior rider on because(he said) 'he can see the trouble coming 200m away and gets out of the road'

 

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Reefton said:

fair comment Pam but the 'going amiss' might well have had something to do with the track or lameness/pain medications being used on horses

Bit hard to do that in a Melbourne Cup lead up.  The horses have so many scans they are probably suffering from radiation sickness.

[Reefton]

9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Bit hard to do that in a Melbourne Cup lead up.  The horses have so many scans they are probably suffering from radiation sickness.

Is that right?

Given how many of them have suffered issues in the MC maybe it is time for a new scanning machine.  Clearly the current one is not too effective in picking up issues

 

[Chief Stipe]

6 minutes ago, Reefton said:

Is that right?

Given how many of them have suffered issues in the MC maybe it is time for a new scanning machine.  Clearly the current one is not too effective in picking up issues

 

Last year all international entrants were required to have a nuclear scintigraphy and a CT scan.  All local entrants were also required to have a CT scan.

There will always be horses going amiss.  Always have been.  The nature of the beast particularly when asked to so something it isn't really designed to do.