Relative Costs?

[Honestjohn]

12 hours ago, Shad said:

 

Interesting what you would pay for a whole lamb these days, especially from an a licensed meat retailer, given there prices per kg, I'm a purist and all those marinades take away the lamb flavor for me, but each to their own.

 

You'll just have to take my word for it.  Tandoori cutlets are the bomb. My kids always choose as an entree.  And their kids as well,  so it can be expensive!! 

Hj

[Honestjohn]

1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Roo is leaner than venison Shad, and IMO more tasty, in MEL when the AB's were gifted victory they dined on frogs legs and snails.......I'm thinking in AKL the Wallabies may have been served their pre game meal by a dodgy waitress from Browns Bay with an Africaans accent. 

 

I have venison backstraps  in my freezer,  my son is the only one close to me that likes it.  Wild venison. I'm not a fan. 

 

Hj

[Chief Stipe]

Home kill is the way to go.  Works out at about $8.50 kg for all the steak cuts of choice including 20kg sausages and about 6 large corned silversides.

The savings on the mince and sausages alone paid for the entire 220kgs.  Prime beef mince ranges between $16 and $18 kg at the Supermarket.

Meat all bagged and labelled.

[Joe Bloggs]

43 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Home kill is the way to go.  Works out at about $8.50 kg for all the steak cuts of choice including 20kg sausages and about 6 large corned silversides.

The savings on the mince and sausages alone paid for the entire 220kgs.  Prime beef mince ranges between $16 and $18 kg at the Supermarket.

Meat all bagged and labelled.

Bit difficult to organise that in Devonport I would imagine, ....now South AKL might be a different story?????

[Chief Stipe]

33 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Bit difficult to organise that in Devonport I would imagine, ....now South AKL might be a different story?????

But it shows you what the mark up costs are.  A significant part of the costs are Government regulations.  Those regulations designed to stop us from getting ill!

[Joe Bloggs]

22 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But it shows you what the mark up costs are.  A significant part of the costs are Government regulations.  Those regulations designed to stop us from getting ill!

I got ill when I perused the CNW docket, who in their right mind would shop there? although from memory the car park was full of RangeRovers/Beemas/Mercs etc......whereas Push and Shove were Toyotas, Mazdas, Zephyr6's ford prefects Hilman Imps ford escorts...you get the point.....

[Shad]

Crickey the food safety laws these days,paper work and audits, especially the supermarkets, average Joe wouldn't have a clue how stringent they are, and then you see some of the takeaways or food providers,seem way less stringent rules, no offense Joe b.

[Shad]

8 hours ago, Honestjohn said:

 

I have venison backstraps  in my freezer,  my son is the only one close to me that likes it.  Wild venison. I'm not a fan. 

 

Hj

Yeah the old venison deer to, farm stuff fairly mild and ok, but wild stuff not for me to, lamb or even better hogget flaps very underrated stuffed and slow roasted in an oven bag cant beat them, get a nice crunchy skin almost like crackling. 

[Honestjohn]

22 hours ago, Shad said:

Yeah the old venison deer to, farm stuff fairly mild and ok, but wild stuff not for me to, lamb or even better hogget flaps very underrated stuffed and slow roasted in an oven bag cant beat them, get a nice crunchy skin almost like crackling. 

 

I'm certain we had flaps rolled and stuffed as kids, bloody good. 

 

Hj

[Honestjohn]

On 9/30/2022 at 11:14 AM, Chief Stipe said:

Home kill is the way to go.  Works out at about $8.50 kg for all the steak cuts of choice including 20kg sausages and about 6 large corned silversides.

The savings on the mince and sausages alone paid for the entire 220kgs.  Prime beef mince ranges between $16 and $18 kg at the Supermarket.

Meat all bagged and labelled.

 

I used  to do home kill 30 years ago,  lambs and pigs,  penned for few days to relax them before throat slashed or a. 22 bullet to the head. Templeton butchers did my hams. Cheap as chips. 

Hj

[Shad]

35 minutes ago, Honestjohn said:

 

I'm certain we had flaps rolled and stuffed as kids, bloody good. 

 

Hj

Yep and they still are I can vouch for that, another little gem is cross cut blade, if you can get a nice mid to tail end piece of  steak it frys up a treat, quite tender and super tasty,bit cheaper to, shame the small butcher shop few and far between, none why I live, days of a free sav or cheerios long gone, regulations put a stop on that, sad ole world.

[Honestjohn]

20 hours ago, Shad said:

Yep and they still are I can vouch for that, another little gem is cross cut blade, if you can get a nice mid to tail end piece of  steak it frys up a treat, quite tender and super tasty,bit cheaper to, shame the small butcher shop few and far between, none why I live, days of a free sav or cheerios long gone, regulations put a stop on that, sad ole world.

Yeah I grew up getting the cheerios as well.  I've always had an affinity with butchers,  my next door neighbor was a butcher as well,  a very funny man. 

My mate sold his shop about 10 years ago,  he used to do the cheerios back then. 

 

Hj

[Shad]

Pleased to meat you, and meat to please you, the old butchers phrase, there are usually a jolly bunch with good sense of humour, despite one of the lowest paid trades people, now there as rare as goose teeth, just have to look on trade me to see how many wanted, plenty of ex ones around all in better paid employment, keep those flaps honest John and have a trip down memory lane, will get two off a whole lamb and if there small roll two into one with homemade stuffing. Best and tastiest roast, not great tor the cholesterol though.

[Honestjohn]

On 10/2/2022 at 3:32 PM, Honestjohn said:

Yeah I grew up getting the cheerios as well.  I've always had an affinity with butchers,  my next door neighbor was a butcher as well,  a very funny man. 

My mate sold his shop about 10 years ago,  he used to do the cheerios back then. 

 

Hj

 

This was my spend today. 

 

Hj

 

[Shad]

Whole lamb looks good buy, is that the whole carcass, what sort of weight, the only cheaper way is to buy on the hoof, rules do state you must keep the animal for x amount of time before slaughtering, a job in its self, some way the eyes are good eating, they see through the week, sweet breads really nice, and brains good to, not such a fan of frys and hearts.

 

[holy ravioli]

On 9/28/2022 at 12:56 PM, Joe Bloggs said:

Now I know most of you aren't responsible for the housekeeping duties in your humble abodes, however bear with me if you will while I point out some alarming discrepancies tween Oz and NZ, and then, hopefully, you learned people will give me a lesson in domestic economics......

Did the weekly shop yesty, and was overjoyed to pay; $7-99kg for beef sausages from the deli, $10-99 for chicken breast fillets, $19-99kg for prime porterhouse steak, $11-99kg for middle bacon, [Aus] $22-00kg for T-bone steak and $13-99kg for some of the tangiest bitey cheddar cheese ever, and as a splurge, $16-00 for a kg of AUS cooked large tiger prawns, and Lamb Cutlets, cut from the rack $23kg........ I wont bore you with the grocery items, but great value.......then filled the car E10 @ $1-47, chuffed.

Then got home and decided to pay my Oz trainer, $80+10%gst a day, country based but 1 hour from the Gold Coast, racing generally for about 25K.......13 to the winner, but entered midweek for 35K.......if she goes ok, [won 2 starts back] she'll go to Sat for 75K or down to Randwick for a highway, where they pay 1K for 10th, benchmarks are 2700 for 10th?

Farrier was $170, [cash cheaper] transport costs subsidised by trainer, [cheap]......commercial rates, reasonable. no pay up, jockey paid by clubs, starters incentive about $470 for lowest stake races.

Our NZ trainer is base rate 70 +++.......good trainer, nice person..... farrier, $190...., poor value, transport, astronomical, shocking value, racing for bags of spuds, starters incentive, laughable.......

Salaries at HQ? if there were KPI'S involved, most at senior level would be dismissed, here, except for QLD and SA, are more than acceptable based on KPI's.....

What's my point?.....my mate that lives in Devonport shopped at his local New World and sent me the docket......????....FFS......how the fuck do you people live? How has NZ become such a basket case, my mate has a good job, but 60 bucks for Lamb Cutlets and being asked to pay 15 bucks a kg for beef FLAVOURED pre-cooked sausages, WTF?.......there were so many items on his docket that were just unbelievable, a working man/woman in NZ must be stretched to breaking point, so, how the hell is racing going to be sustainable? It just can't be, if ever the Asian garden of eden dries up, so nowhere to flog the great NZ racehorse, it's a tits up industry, Petone is a fools paradise....or is it? maybe we don't give them the credit they deserve, maybe they identified it as a sunset industry a while back and just decided to get out of it what they could......not all, but the imports sure knew where their bread is/was buttered.

Our last horse, is still in NZ, a baby, will do her education there and any ability at all will be airlifted out quick smart.......if there was a viable alternative we would gladly take it, but it's not looking good for NZ and you don't need me to tell you that.

I would guess there is about 20% of industry participants doing ok in NZ, 30/40% scratching a living and the rest, well, below the poverty line? and we all know what happens to livestock if the principal is doing it tough.......

Figures generally don't lie, unless the've  been manipulated, we've all seen the creative accounting from past reports, NZ TAB is a perfect example, but looking at the general, mainstream costs and charges across all boards, trouble is brewing.........

So, get in, strap yourselves down, hold on tight and get ready for a bumpy ride.......there's always AIR NZ or Jetstar/Qantas, and there's always a spare bed at Joe's place!

=

New World is far and away the most expensive supermarket imo.

[Honestjohn]

18 hours ago, Shad said:

Whole lamb looks good buy, is that the whole carcass, what sort of weight, the only cheaper way is to buy on the hoof, rules do state you must keep the animal for x amount of time before slaughtering, a job in its self, some way the eyes are good eating, they see through the week, sweet breads really nice, and brains good to, not such a fan of frys and hearts.

 

 

16.?  It was 10.95 kg.  So you can work it out. 

 

Hj

[Honestjohn]

2 hours ago, holy ravioli said:

New World is far and away the most expensive supermarket imo.

That body gave me 4shanks, 2legs, 2 shoulders and 48 chops. 

 

Hj

[Shad]

Yes and whole legs to, not chump off ones that supermarkets sell, always missing the rump, on supermarket prices the two whole legs would  around 120$ plus some,, let alone any of the rest, certainly a good buy.

[holy ravioli]

4 hours ago, Honestjohn said:

That body gave me 4shanks, 2legs, 2 shoulders and 48 chops. 

 

Hj

Very good...a 2 legged lamb is always good value innit.🤪

[Honestjohn]

17 hours ago, Shad said:

Yes and whole legs to, not chump off ones that supermarkets sell, always missing the rump, on supermarket prices the two whole legs would  around 120$ plus some,, let alone any of the rest, certainly a good buy.

 

And neck chops as well,  I casserole those.  I included those in the chop count,  which were cut a bit thinner for cutlets. 

 

Hj

[Shad]

Wonder if Costco do whole carcass, see their bulk mince 11.99kg 

[Honestjohn]

13 hours ago, holy ravioli said:

Very good...a 2 legged lamb is always good value innit.🤪

 

You a pom  by any chance? 

 

Hj

[Shad]

Just now, Honestjohn said:

 

And neck chops as well,  I casserole those.  I included those in the chop count,  which were cut a bit thinner for cutlets. 

 

Hj

The old haricot chops, another forgotten gem that most supermarkets don't sell, super tasty.